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Maybe im just to picky...
« on: July 11, 2006, 04:59:07 pm »
I have purchased 2 psps in the last 2 days at walmart & returned them both for dead pixels has anyone else had this problem I hate to pay $200.00 for a unit that has issues like this, I had a perfect 1 when the psp was first released but a guy offered $400.00 & I sold it, anyone else had these issues.
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Re: Maybe im just to picky...
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2006, 06:57:23 pm »
I didn't have any issues with a PSP, since I haven't ever owned one, but I did have some dead pixel issues with portable DVD players, and like you, there is just no way I would settle for such a thing.

Manufacturers don't consider it a defect, and I for the life of me can't figure out why. A dead pixel would bother me to no end, and it would always be what my eyes would focus to. There is no way I consider that to be an ok situation to a device that costs a few hundred dollars.



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Re: Maybe im just to picky...
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2006, 11:56:46 am »
I didn't have any issues with a PSP, since I haven't ever owned one, but I did have some dead pixel issues with portable DVD players, and like you, there is just no way I would settle for such a thing.

Manufacturers don't consider it a defect, and I for the life of me can't figure out why. A dead pixel would bother me to no end, and it would always be what my eyes would focus to. There is no way I consider that to be an ok situation to a device that costs a few hundred dollars.




Because there are millions upon millions of pixels on a screen. The way they see it, if one out of millions is broken, that's not broken enough.

Plus, the sheer COST of refunding every single screen with a single dead pixel quickly becomes ridiculous.

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Re: Maybe im just to picky...
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2006, 12:28:53 pm »
Because there are millions upon millions of pixels on a screen. The way they see it, if one out of millions is broken, that's not broken enough.

Plus, the sheer COST of refunding every single screen with a single dead pixel quickly becomes ridiculous.



Yeah, I can see how the cost of refunding could be an issue, but I see it as an issue they created themselves.

If the % coming back as defective due to a bad pixel is so high as to cause a financial burden, then they need to address the quality issues that are leading to so many having a dead pixel in the first place.

Maybe it is something that can't be addressed, and that is just a risk you take with ANY lcd display, but hell if I am going to be out a few hundred for such issues. The display on such devices is probably one of the most important parts of the unit to me, and anything less than perfect for my money is unacceptable.

If it is something they can't easily fix, then they can then sell it to someone less picky for a discounted price, because imo it is clearly a defect.





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Re: Maybe im just to picky...
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2006, 12:59:19 pm »
Before I go off on my mini-rant, because I hate when people argue this, please note that I AGREE WITH VERSAPAK 100%.   In fact, I've returned devices before due to dead pixels and they drive me totally insane.  However, I would never argue that its due to quality issues or the company "screwing the little guy" so to speak.


Yeah, I can see how the cost of refunding could be an issue, but I see it as an issue they created themselves.

If the % coming back as defective due to a bad pixel is so high as to cause a financial burden, then they need to address the quality issues that are leading to so many having a dead pixel in the first place.

This is the fundamentally WRONG assumption that everyone makes with this argument.  Dead pixels are not defective.. they just aren't.  Depending on the size of a screen, anywhere from 2-10 dead pixels will be statistically labelled as "normal."  It's a fact of life in manufacturing.... things break on occasion.  The problem with LCD screens is the fact that you are holding in your hand millions of potential points of failure.

Take a toy, or any other product for that matter...  you manufacture them and you see a failure rate of 1 in a million.  You are not going to overhaul or change a damn thing in your factory.  It's a part of business... you throw away the bad one and that is that.  You can't do that with LCDs... there are millions and millions of pixels on each screen.  If an LCD company was to accept returns and refunds for any screen with dead pixels, it would put them out of business.  End of story.

Maybe it is something that can't be addressed, and that is just a risk you take with ANY lcd display

It is, and no matter how good LCD production gets, it will never be fully resolved.  Dead pixels are possible with LCD screens... you need to accept it as a possibility (please note I'm not saying you need to accept dead pixels.... but you can't truly call them a defect and criticize a company for their existence... not with any real logic anyway).

If it is something they can't easily fix, then they can then sell it to someone less picky for a discounted price, because imo it is clearly a defect.

Again.. this would destory the company.  For a long time (and only now is it starting to change), LCD saw a very low margin due to costs needed to produce the display panels.  They can't sell them for any worthwhile discount or they will lose money.  In addition to that, statistically, it wasn't uncommon for companies to have at least one dead pixel on sometimes HALF their panels.   The simply CAN'T sell them as defective.




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Re: Maybe im just to picky...
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2006, 01:12:44 pm »
I returned both of the psp's due to a dead pixel right smack in the middle & i stared at the dead pixel more than i was enjoying the game...now I have a question...a dead pixel on a psp will normally show up right at the start or can these develop in a month, 2 months etc, the reason I ask for $19.99 you can get a 2 year warrenty at EB games & if you do get a dead pixel you can get a new psp at anytime
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Re: Maybe im just to picky...
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2006, 03:11:58 pm »
Dead pixels can technically form at any point in the display's life.  Stuck pixels can also form throughout the life of the screen.

That being said, a huge percentage of dead pixels will pop up early in the life of the display and you won't see any more.  So if you get a screen with no dead pixels, and it stays that way for the first few weeks, chances are it'll be good for as long as you use it.

There is no guarantee though.
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