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Zinc is driving me crazy!!!
« on: May 29, 2006, 01:49:29 pm »
this is a very maddening hobby sometimes.

you have to end up hunting down 12 different zip files just to get an emulator to work...and sometimes it just takes days to configure.

I downloaded Zinc and all of it's renderers and bios...the GUI...

finally got the damn thing to work after being up all night.  But the problem is that the framerate is staying at about 40 fps.  and it just looks damn slow.

it's also too loud...anybody figure that one out yet?

the final problem I have is that it opens up in a window and not fullscreen.

what am I doing wrong?   ???

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Re: Zinc is driving me crazy!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2006, 02:03:49 pm »
Zinc can be a mother.  Have you tried HowardC's wrapper for it?  Patience is a virtue. :notworthy:

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Re: Zinc is driving me crazy!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2006, 10:08:09 pm »
Zinc drove me crazy for a long time.
I can't remember where I got it, but there's a program called ZincGui which makes things tons easier.  A google search should come up with the program.

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Re: Zinc is driving me crazy!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2006, 02:35:28 pm »
Hi there.

Zinc need a bit of patience.   About the speed and sound, I haven't had any problems yet; but for the full screen issue try this:  Open the renderer.cfg file and edit it with the following values:
XSize         = 640   ; Window/fullscreen X size
YSize         = 480   ; Window/fullscreen Y size
FullScreen      = 1      ; Fullscreen mode: 0/1

Hope this helps,
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Re: Zinc is driving me crazy!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2006, 07:44:43 pm »
This shoudl also be obvious, but you have to actually point to at least a zinc.cfg via command line (which can point to the renderer.cfg internally).  Zinc doesn't have default cfg file names like mame does so you actually have to call them.  And zinc doesn't run at all without setting some of the basic settings. 

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Re: Zinc is driving me crazy!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2006, 01:35:00 am »
STUPID QUESTION:  am I able to use the standard MAME roms with zinc?  Or are there different roms all together?

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Re: Zinc is driving me crazy!!!
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2006, 02:16:26 am »
I can't get any of the Tekkens to run at higher than 20fps.

Intel
Pentium 4   2.00GHz
512 RAM
Windows XP

what the hell am I doing wrong?  :banghead:

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Re: Zinc is driving me crazy!!!
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2006, 09:53:27 am »
STUPID QUESTION:  am I able to use the standard MAME roms with zinc?  Or are there different roms all together?

Same as Mame roms if I recall.

I can't get any of the Tekkens to run at higher than 20fps.

Unlike Mame, zinc makes use of your graphics card - so having a goodish 3D card is important.
Are you running in a window?
What resolution are you running the game at?
What is your graphics card? How much gfx mem? Is it an integrated chipset?

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Re: Zinc is driving me crazy!!!
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2006, 02:21:06 pm »
STUPID QUESTION:  am I able to use the standard MAME roms with zinc?  Or are there different roms all together?

Same as Mame roms if I recall.

I can't get any of the Tekkens to run at higher than 20fps.

Unlike Mame, zinc makes use of your graphics card - so having a goodish 3D card is important.
Are you running in a window?
What resolution are you running the game at?
What is your graphics card? How much gfx mem? Is it an integrated chipset?

I have no idea what kind of video card I have.  I didn't buy the computer new.

I DID fix part of the problem though.  I figured out that I was running the games at too high of a resolution.  I was running them at 1280x1024 because that is my monitor's default res.  I thought that's what I was supposed to do.  So i set it at 640x480 and that helped.  Then I killed the sound and they started moving even faster.  So I found a thread about the sound driver file or something.  Replaced the file and it fixed it.

NOW...my problem is getting it to work with Mamewah and HowardC's wrapper.  I'm not quite sure how to set all of that stuff up even after reading his website.  I think I'm also missing some BIOS files that I need to get the games to run.

Question...are there multiple BIOS files that I need?  or does someone have like an all-in-one package?  This is really maddening.  And there is not much on the wiki about it.

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Re: Zinc is driving me crazy!!!
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2006, 11:03:56 am »
Hi there.

If you want, send me your e-mail and I can send you a complete set of bios, valid for mame and zinc (it's a bit over 7 mb).

As for running zinc in mamewah, I didn't use Howard's wrapper (not that there something wrong with it) cause I wanted to find a way on my own.   
The solution was simple, to run a vbs (visual basic script) from mamewah.  I've included the vbs; just rename wrapper.txt as wrapper.vbs.  An in your emulator.ini in mamewah (zinc.ini)  use the following settings:
### Execution Settings ###
emulator_executable                       d:\zinc\wrapper.vbs
commandline_format                        [name]{autodosbox}{nosafelaunch}

I know this isn't the most elegant solution, but at least it works (and it's my solution) :).   Hope it works for you.

Cheers, :cheers:
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Re: Zinc is driving me crazy!!!
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2006, 11:43:34 am »
Just to clarify, the wrapper.vbs must be in the same folder that your zinc.exe is.

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