Help! D9200 went down!

[Gaston77]

  Help!

I posted a thread a couple of days back. I have a D9200 hooked up to an ArcadeVGA card. At first things were peachy although I couldn't run games yet. While I was still setting up everything in Windows, first the screen shut off intermittently (to reboot) and at one point it just went black and stopped working!! I tried firing it up again, but to no avail!  I am situated in Europe so I use a step-up convertor (110V to 220V) but this shouldnt really matter.

It's a brand new unit and I paid big bucks to get it here! PLease help me as I don't know what the problem might be!

Thanks in advance 

[miles2912]

It sounds like you were sending too high a resolution to the monitor and that might have damaged it.  You have to disable all the resolutions that might cause damage to the monitor and just send a 60hz or 15hz signal and nothing higher than 640x480 resolution. 

The games themselves need to be setup to use the correct resolution. .  This article should be standard reading for anyone who wants an arcade monitor.  http://www.retroblast.com/articles/monitor.html

And finally off the record I think the arcade vga card is not needed.  Your picture will look cleaner without the card.  Now if you are a purist I can see using it but for the record my 38 year old eyes can live without the 15hz output just fine thank you.

Don

[2600]

From the spec sheet the Input Voltage seems to be auto-sensing, meaning no transformer needed.

[Gaston77]

Thanks for the replies. Problem is; I installed the Avga card with the specific purpose not to harm the monitor. So I booted up the first time with the card where it automatically went to 640*480 albeit somewhat flickery. I installed Ultimarc's Trisync utility and after this, it worked fine. Windows worked fine as well. The problem is that the monitor boots up again with no clear reason. Example; I boot up, windows loading screen comes up. THen the "no signal" screen appears, then disappears again after which Windows is loaded correctly and working fine. When I try to run any of the emulators, it gives the same "no signal" again but then reboots. I thought it was the resolution as well but it is set at 640*480. And now, the monitor won't even fire up!

Can I severely damage the monitor even though I have used the Ultimarc AVGA card? I hope not? 

[miles2912]

Yes.  The problem is the monitor will not report what resolutions it can support.  The card has no idea that you have an arcade monitor in it so it will throw out any resolution it wants depending on the game.  Did you read the link I sent?  You have to hard code the resolutions for Windows and the Games you want to play.

That arcadevga card really should come with some good instructions for using it in the environment it was designed for.  We should sticky a warning on this board to potential buyers of "Arcade Monitors" regardless of the card they were made for.

Your best bet here is to contact whoever sold you the monitor and talk to tech support.  They will be able to resolve it...

Don

[2600]

Umm, why is he going to contact support for his monitor?

From what I understand the PC is rebooting.  If that's the case, I'd look at the PC.

[Gaston77]

The PC is not the problem; it still works. The monitor does not. I believe Don is right. I did read the link that you sent through and I was absolutely NOT aware that I first has to hardcode for each and every game in every emulator. Had I known that, I would have never fired up the monitor before everything was perfect! As you can understand I am well upset right now since I believe that the monitor is fried. I will contact a service center which I found over the WG Website which is relatively close to here. If the monitor is fried, It will be 700 EUR (800-900 US $) in all DOWN THE DRAIN.

Check out Ultimarc's ad;

Connect your 15Khz arcade cabinet monitor to your PC with NO special configuration or special driver software in either DOS or Windows.
    *  Displays all boot, DOS and Windows screens. Displays Windows desktop in a choice of resolutions including interlaced and non-interlaced.
    * Allows DOS MAME or MAME32 to run almost all games at their native resolutions without hardware stretching, scan converters or other degradation.
    * Emulates the original game board's graphics hardware as closer than has ever been possible before.
    * Contains 28 built-in 15Khz video graphics modes tailored specially for emulation.
    * All 240-line modes have an exact 60Hz vertical refresh rate for best performance in scrolling games.
    * Special 300 X 256 Mode timed at 53Hz vertical for games such as Mortal Kombat .
    * All video modes timed at 15.7 Khz horizontal frequency to eliminate picture shifting on mode changes.
    * Also contains all standard VGA graphics and text modes, running at 15Khz. Text screens display the full 25 lines without interlace using a special reduced-height font.
    * All special modes available in Windows XP, Windows 2000 and Windows 98 at all colour depths.
    * Desktop rotation supported in Windows for vertically-mounted monitors in Windows XP and 2000.
    * Choice of Windows desktop resolutions including interlaced and non-interlaced modes. Can be assigned hot-keys .
    * Virtual-desktop mode supported in XP and 2000, so you can run a desktop of 1024 X 768 and auto-pan.
    * No MAME monitor configuration necessary, no need even to tell MAME you have an arcade monitor.
    * Run any Windows application which can use 640X480 or 800X600 on your arcade monitor including 3D games.
    * All modes locked with vertical and horizontal negative sync for easy connection via a direct cable.
    * Choice of available connection methods, Via J-PAC, Via Video Amp, or Direct Cable connect.
    * Powerful ATI Radeon 9250 chipset for great performance in 3D games as well as emulation
    * 400 Mhz Memory Clock, 240 Mhz core speed.


If you are new, you believe it's plug and play time. THey really should warn buyers!!!     
 

[grantspain]

i don't see how wrong freq can damage your monitor,at worst send the chassis back claiming it was faulty on receipt and they should replace/repair at no cost.i don't know anything about d9200 but my guess its a digital monitor,there may be a way of giving your monitor a factory reset bacause at the moment it sounds very confused.i have never had a monitor blow because of wrong frequency

[dabone]

http://www.ultimarc.com/avres.zip


Generate the correct resolution ini's for the games.

Or else mame is autopicking resolutions/refresh rates the monitor cannot handle.

Go to ultimarc's site and read this page.

http://www.ultimarc.com/avgainst.html

Have you setup your resolutions?

Also, minwah makes a great ini generator thats a bit harder to use.

Linky.... http://mamewah.mameworld.net/downloads.htm


Also, I have a D9200 monitor, and like yours mine died in the first week of having it. (Actually in the first 24 hour burn in period), They had me remove the chassis (The circuit boards) and send only that back. The new one they sent me worked fine and has been working fine for over 2 years now.

Feeding the wrong signal to the d9200 should not damage it, the monitor will report a out of range error. You probally just got a defective chassis.


Later,
dabone

[Gaston77]

 
Thanks for the tip. I have been talking to a Wells Gardner service center here in Holland and the mechanic says the same as you Dabone. The guy is not officially working for Wells Gardner, he is the middle man between customer and WG so he was able to talk a bit more freely about this issue. As we were talking, he told me that the chassis is 95% of the problem whenever a D9200 has broken down. I will drive down there next Saturday and give him my D9200. It falls under warranty (it had better!!) so finally some good news. It would even be better if this never happened but I am not going to ---smurfette--- about this. I will let you know the outcome.

Cheers,
Gaston