atomicFe anf game filtering??

[squirrellydw]

Can AtomicFe filter games like MameWah?  As in you can remove games from the list that is displayed?

[youki]

I don't know how doest Mamawah , i never tried it.  But you can filter game without any problem.

There is 2 ways to do that : 

1- Use predifined game list  (put only game you want to see)

or

2- Use Excluse List ,  Atomic will display all Roms except the ones you defined in the list.


Of course, you can combine 1 and 2 . 


What do you want to do exactly , can you give me an example?

[squirrellydw]

I think it would be great if it would list all the games you have, then you can choose which ones you want by moving down the list and selecting each one and say yes or no.  That is sort of how Mamewah works.

Are you the developer of AtomicFE??  If you are and need any webspace or anything like that, I can try help you out in that area.

[Howard_Casto]

I think it would be great if it would list all the games you have, then you can choose which ones you want by moving down the list and selecting each one and say yes or no.  That is sort of how Mamewah works.

Are you the developer of AtomicFE??  If you are and need any webspace or anything like that, I can try help you out in that area.

Really?  Man, no offense but in both cases that's kind of stone-age tech. 

Don't get me wrong, you can do it that way in DK, but you can also use real searchsting/filter combos to generate a list with just some key searches... like making a list of all games released between 1980 and 1990, or all games made by capcom, or games with 5 buttons ect.....

I had assumed that at this point all fes did this.

[squirrellydw]

Really?  Man, no offense but in both cases that's kind of stone-age tech. 

Don't get me wrong, you can do it that way in DK, but you can also use real searchsting/filter combos to generate a list with just some key searches... like making a list of all games released between 1980 and 1990, or all games made by capcom, or games with 5 buttons ect.....

I had assumed that at this point all fes did this.

I just like the way it works, thats all.

[markrvp]

This isn't directed at any FE, but rather what I see as a trend toward creating lists from search strings.

I like a favorites list.  Not all the games by Capcom or all the games from 1980.  A list like:

Pacman
Donkey Kong
Space Invaders
Street Fighter 2 CE'
Tempest
Centipede
Outrun
Defender
Joust
QBert
Star Wars
Ikari Warriors
Smash TV
Area 51

You get the idea.  What is the common search string for those games?  There isn't one.  That includes Atari, Williams, Capcom, Sega, etc.  Those games are from 1979-199?   Those games include Lightgun, trackball, rotary joysticks, 8-way joysticks, 4-way joysticks, dual 8-way joysticks, vertical monitor, horizontal monitor, and on-and-on.  I would rather just tag the games I want to play often and those be the games that show up in my FAVORITES list.

[squirrellydw]

yeah, that would be perfact, maybe two favorite lists, one for me and one for the wife 

[Howard_Casto]

This isn't directed at any FE, but rather what I see as a trend toward creating lists from search strings.

I like a favorites list.  Not all the games by Capcom or all the games from 1980.  A list like:

Pacman
Donkey Kong
Space Invaders
Street Fighter 2 CE'
Tempest
Centipede
Outrun
Defender
Joust
QBert
Star Wars
Ikari Warriors
Smash TV
Area 51

You get the idea.  What is the common search string for those games?  There isn't one.  That includes Atari, Williams, Capcom, Sega, etc.  Those games are from 1979-199?   Those games include Lightgun, trackball, rotary joysticks, 8-way joysticks, 4-way joysticks, dual 8-way joysticks, vertical monitor, horizontal monitor, and on-and-on.  I would rather just tag the games I want to play often and those be the games that show up in my FAVORITES list.

DK has a favorites list as well, and they can be tagged as you described. 


Like I said, it amazes me that more fe's don't do this.  After looking into it, only Dk and 3darcade (to a limited degree) support advanced filtering techniques.  I find this ironic considering they are the two oldesst fes on the board that are still being actively developed and both had said features from the beginning.

It just goes to prove my old philosophy, making a new fe is useless unless it does something the existing fes can't do.  Looks like a lot of up and comers have focused on a "purdy" layout before spending the several weeks requred to write a robust fe core that can actually make gamelists and support multiple emulators easily. 

Consider the previous motivation.  Don't worry about how many flashy effects   You can add until you can parse catvers and universally make masterlists.  Don't worry about a cool 3d wheel unless you allow the users to skin yoru image elements fully.  After you get the basics done THEN go back and work on the cool effects. 

Dk has been in hiding for several months.  I've managed to spend nearly all of that time working on nify graphical stuff since I started with a sturdy core. 


Ok end rant......  I'll crawl back into my hobbit hole now. 

[youki]

Hi,

In Atomic you can do all what you want concerning GameList and Favorites.
You can build game list by hand , or use advanced filtering technique.
And Favorites list can be built on fly while the FE is running.( you play a game, you like it, you press a button and it goes to the favorite list).

To use GameList in Atomic :

-On the general tab, check "advanced options"
-On the Advanced tab
           -check "use predefined gamelist"
           -check "let Atomic choose files names"
- On the GAMELIST tab that appears

         -On the left list , you have the roms you own
         -on the right list , you have the gamelist
  You can to build your gamelist :
          -Select a game in the left list and press ">" to transfer it in the game list
          - or Select a category files in the combobox (ex :genre.ini)
            then select a category (ex : Driving)
            and click Transfert category button. All driving game will be transfered in the     gamelist.
          -If you checked "only roms owned" it will transfert only roms you own in the game list while you transfert a caterogory. If not, all rom name are transfered but Atomic will display only the one you have. If you add a rom in your folder corresponding to the category Atomic will display it automatically without having to modify the gamelist.

If you want build and exclude list, do the same thing but just click on the "save as exclude list" button.
     
Concerning the FAVORITES , here is how it works :
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On the "options" tab
  - check "Enable Favorite list"
 
then when the Front end is running :
   -to put a game in the favorite list, just press "Player1 button 1"
   -To switch to the Favorite list (the normal list is replaced by the favorite one) press "Player1 button 3"
   -To go back to the normal list , press again "Player1 button 3"
   -To remove a game from the Favorite list "Player 1 button 2".

Of course, if you don't like default key , you can define it using AtomicKeys.exe

Are you the developer of AtomicFE??  If you are and need any webspace or anything like that, I can try help you out in that area.

Yes, i'am .  And Thanks for your proposition. For now, i have enough space and bandwith on the server i use. (it costs me a lot, but it is very powerfull  ).

[squirrellydw]

Very cool, looks like what I want.  I will check it out.  If I like it I will be sure to send a donation your way.  Thanks

[youki]

Thanks.

You can use this tab , to build the Favorite list if you don't want to build it on fly. 
to do that you can save the list as Exclude List and rename the file to your favorites list file.

If you have any question don't hesitate. (I would prefer you post question on the dedicated AtomicFE support forum if possible (check my website to find the link) , if you cant , it is not a problemi will answer you here , but i would like to centralize all Atomic questions in one place).

[squirrellydw]

How do you install new layouts?  I downloaded the "classic layout" and put it in the layouts folder but I can't get tit to show up, what am I doing wrong?

[youki]

Hi,

To install a layout.

You donwload it.

You unzip in a folder

If you don't use a plugnplay module  :  you open AtomicManager , on the Folder tab, you make point the Layout Folder to the folder where you unzipped the layout.  (the folder where there is the layout.cfg file , i think the zip of the classic layout containt a subfolder, you have to point to the deeper folder).

Certain layout need you give additionnal folder , like Marquee Folder, Snap Folder and Flyer Folder (it is the case of the classic one) , just make point these folder on the right ones with AtomicManager.

If you use a plugnplay module :

to change layout in module it is the same thing, you open the .Cfg file corresponding to the module you use and you change the layout with AtomicManager.

But if you want change the Module Selection layout, you have to do that with the plugnplaymanager.exe

I hope it helps

[squirrellydw]

I am getting an error....
C:\AtomicFE_v015\Layouts\Layout_classic_640x480\Selection.png   does not exist.

[youki]

I'm going to check now. May be one file is missing in this layout.

[youki]

I checked.

It works well for me.

Did you try to modify it with the AtomicLayoutManager???   That could be the problem.

- Delete your folder Layout_classic_640x480\

- Re-download the layout from my website

- Unzip it in your C:\AtomicFE_v015\Layouts\

Open your config with AtomicManager and make point the layout folder to :
C:\AtomicFE_v015\Layouts\Layout_classic_640x480\

It must work.


And please answer to these questions , it could help me to help you.

- Did you install a plugnplay module?
- did you build your own config?
- What is the name of your config file?
- What is the content of the file : config.atomic   (it is in the atomicfe folder, open it with notepad).


Thanks

[squirrellydw]

it worked, thanks.   FYI, I did try to use AtomicLayoutManager so I guess that was the problem.

[squirrellydw]

Oh, one more thing that might help you.  I saw on your website that you could use some help translating from French to English.  Have you ever tried google??

http://www.google.com/language_tools

[youki]

Thanks , i knew that. But these automatic translator are not really good , the result is even worst than my "natural" french-english... 

FYI, I did try to use AtomicLayoutManager so I guess that was the problem.

It is what i thought.  I think you checked to display the Marquee list with the layoutmanager. And for marquee list you need a file called selection.png .