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Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« on: February 21, 2006, 12:26:41 pm »
Ive been trying to find photos, details on the coin drop machines you get in some arcades in the UK not the old skool type ones from the victorian era the new ones where you put 2p/10p etc in the slot it bounces off of some pins (nails) drops to the bottom where there is a sliding shelf the the coin drops of of and pused in th a load more coins and if you get it right it pusses some off the end and you win.

normally at fun fairs etc

ive see that Sega has made a more advanced one where the money goes in the bottom and shot to the top and there are other variations, i want ot try and make a desk top one but i dont know what its calledto find one and ive looked to try so im calling on your colective brain power (thats dangerous) and superior knowledge on eveything arcade to help point me in the right general direction


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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2006, 01:36:49 pm »
its called a pusher,check out harry levy amusements-they are in kent,england.

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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2006, 08:13:01 am »
Brill!!!

its been driving me mad, i typed in pusher in to google images (errr it was a bit interesting and my work's t'internetweb went a bit mad) so i put coin pusher in and i got loads (and some horses ???

but thats a start fro the design

cheers

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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2006, 04:23:34 pm »
Uhm, if your talking about what I think your talking about...go to a Dave and Busters (If your in the US).  THey have them there.  You may get some stares, but I'm sure you could photo/measure one. :)

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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2006, 04:34:23 pm »
Wow, sounds like an interesting project. I've been playing those machines since I was like 4 (all the good arcades here have them!), keep us posted on this :)

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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2006, 08:36:18 am »
Uhm, if your talking about what I think your talking about...go to a Dave and Busters (If your in the US).  THey have them there.  You may get some stares, but I'm sure you could photo/measure one. :)


Im not in the US im in the UK but cheers

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Wow, sounds like an interesting project. I've been playing those machines since I was like 4 (all the good arcades here have them!), keep us posted on this


Cheers i hope so, there are a few supprises i have in store as well but i need to find out more about the inner workings.

long shot but if any of you can remember when playing, where the money is on the bottom shelf the gaming feild( for want of a better description) tapers in, but there must be a hole in that as some of the money towards the edge sounds like it falling but not going in to the win pot. is this correct? it makes sence as less money is payed out and some of it goie in to the legs,

ive been looking for some indepth plans of the construction but i cant find anything can anyone help?? i'll still keep looking and i hope i can get enough info from the photos ive now got

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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2006, 12:04:37 pm »
yeah i worked on loads of these down ramsgate seafront,its a very simple machine consisting of coin mech,coin drop field with pins,the moving ledge is run by a motor with a number of metal links,so as the motor turns it pushes the ledge back and forth.when the coins build up some drop to each side which go to the cash box,also some have payout units on each side that build up with time and give out random wins.like i said before the primary company in the world for these machines is www.harrylevy.com,companys like this are good to deal with bet you could phone them and organise a day at their factory in kent,just ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow--- a bit and say you want to buy some for your arcade but would like to see the build process and test them.

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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2006, 06:04:21 pm »
I gotta say, honestly I think buying one would be the best way to go.  The suckers have moving parts man...MOVING PARTS.  Thats an entire nother realm no one wants you to bring here...rotating control panels are bad enough...don't give people ideas about things that move on their own.

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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2006, 09:06:58 pm »
They can't be that hard to make.  You need one moving part, a shelf that slides on a track.  Add some spring tension to this, and then make a cam that a motor rotates to push the shelf back and forth slowly.

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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2006, 03:32:02 pm »
I made a prototype one years ago using a microwave oven turntable motor, it was a bit too slow but worked ok. Been thinking of making another but never get much time :(

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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2008, 07:27:41 am »
i know this is a major thread bump, but............

i emailed http://www.harrylevy.com/ yesterday asking for some information on how their coin drop machines work, mainly the playing feild and the holes where money go, no lies or made up jobs and this is the reply

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am taking it that you have the basic pusher box working, or at least know how the pusher box operates?

 

For the most basic pusher this is as technical as you need to get.

 

The other parts are:

Loose holes, these are holes at either edge of the playfield that coins that are not returned to the player fall.

These holes are normally covered by artwork or a metal plate that the player cannot see (without bending down & looking closely)

These coins are the ‘profit’ that the machine makes and any coins falling down these holes fall directly into a cashbox in the bottom of the machine via a chute.

 

A very important part that you will not see on a floated machine (coins already on) are the build up screws.

There are usually 3 build up screws (on a 10p machine) & 5 screws (on a 2p machine) on the playfield under the coins, there is always a middle screw & another screw either side of the middle screw about 3 inches away from each other.

These screws are usually fitted about half way between the pusher box & the chute that the coins are retuned to the player. The screws are normally of the domed-head type and there purpose is to deflect more of the coins to the sides of the playfield (where the loose holes are).

he also send me some very large pictures, which i will add later

so as of now the project is go and im starting ot design it

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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2008, 11:30:16 am »
Yes, these are called "coin pusher" machines and in the USA are listed as "redemption" style machines. Here in Washington state they are very highly regulated by the Washington State Gambling Commission as they are considered gambling devices.

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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2008, 11:12:17 pm »
I can't believe the guy from the manufacturer is just dumping these trade secrets to someone through an email! This may be common knowledge to some of you, but it's news to me! I can't wait to go to the local funcenter with my son and look for these bolts!!!

But yea, I really like these coin pushers too. If I ever had the chance to get one, I definitely would. I always thought about using $1 coins inside and slowly fill it up, and then my kid could get like $10 allowance or something, but then he could risk it for a chance to win big, but really he's just giving me some of that allowance back, HAHA!
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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2008, 09:21:49 am »
I loved those things!  At the local arcade I went to as a kid, they had one right by the front door near the cashier's box.  (And the cashier's box was cool too.  They were all caged up and made you feel like a "rebel" for being in the arcade).  Anyway, you'd exchange your dollars for tokens then have a blast at the pusher trying to get it to give you more.  I was very good at it and would typically exchange one dollar for four tokens, then turn the four tokens into about 60 of them.  If you could exchange the tokens back for money, I'd have been rich!   :P ;D

The sad thing is, the State of Connecticut regarded those things as gambling devices and considered them illegal for use as gambling machines are not legal in the State of CT.  (Unless you are on a tribal property, hence Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun Casinos).  Even though the tokens could not be exchanged for cash, the state didn't care and forced their removal from all arcades.

Buggers!   :angry:
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Re: Coin Drop Machines, thingy
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2009, 09:33:43 am »
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i emailed http://www.harrylevy.com/ yesterday asking for some information on how their coin drop machines work, mainly the playing feild and the holes where money go, no lies or made up jobs and this is the reply
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he also send me some very large pictures, which i will add later

so as of now the project is go and im starting ot design it
Did you make any progress with this?

Do you still have the large pictures? Could you post them or email them to me, by any chance? I'm considering a project along these lines too and would love to see some good pictures of real machines, especially if they're "naked" (i.e., without all the coins inside them).

Thanks,

Adam.