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AVGA & D9200. Games centered in screen, not filling
« on: February 10, 2006, 10:04:52 pm »
OK..I am finally getting my next 4 player cabinet working.  I have a computer setup with a AVGA and a D9200 33" monitor.  I used the Mame Resolution tool to create ini files for all the games with the correct resolutions.  The problem is that when I load a game like Galaga for example, the screen is a smaller box in the center of the screen surrounded by black.  If I turn hardware stretch on it fills, obviously though.  Its like the monitor is staying at 800X600 (as it is in Mamewah) and then centering the smaller resolution in the middle.  Not sure how to troubleshoot this.  I am using .103.  Thanks!!

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Re: AVGA & D9200. Games centered in screen, not filling
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2006, 04:01:16 pm »
*bump* anyone??

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Re: AVGA & D9200. Games centered in screen, not filling
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2006, 07:31:40 pm »
Which version of MAME are you using?

I remember I had something like that happen with me on MAME32. While I can't remember precisely what I did to correct it, after reviewing the settings on MAME32 I suspect it had to due with either the aspect ratio settings,  or the use of the Backdrops or Bezels that can be added (at least these features existed in MAME32 version 0.94).

Hope that helps even a little bit.

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Re: AVGA & D9200. Games centered in screen, not filling
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2006, 10:08:23 pm »
Im using the windows command line version of .103.  I have artwork and bezels turned off.  Thanks.

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Re: AVGA & D9200. Games centered in screen, not filling
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2006, 11:06:01 pm »
Ok tried turning all the bezels, artwork, etc off in the mame.ini config.  Still not working correctly.  The ini file for Galaga is: resolution 512x448.  It just seems to center a window inside of the monitor.  Surely there is something I am overlooking.  Help please..don't want to feel like I wasted $750 on a monitor!

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Re: AVGA & D9200. Games centered in screen, not filling
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2006, 12:23:43 pm »
it's something that will never be perfectly fixed, but it's just how your monitor accepts the information and puts the data on the screen.  a normal computer monitor has an automatic centering of the picture at your single resolution that you use, with an arcade monitor, it's got all sorts of resolutions and frequencies, and can only save so much of your data.

the trick i've heard for getting it as close as possible to perfect is to go back to your restool and make it so mame pops up those warning screens and center the white box for each resolution manually using the little menu thing attached to your monitor.  of course it'll always be a couple pixels off, but that's better than what you have now.  most of the time, you'll only have to move the screen image and make it larger or smaller, since tilt and pincussion stuff should stay constant over each resolution.

get it?

EDIT:  this problem has everything to do with yopur monitor and nothing to do with your software.  You'd get better answers in the monitor forum.

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Re: AVGA & D9200. Games centered in screen, not filling
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2006, 01:21:39 pm »
Ahh..ok.  So I need to use the Vertical resize control of the monitor to get it to fill from top top bottom and just guess on the side-side since it is a vertical game on a horizontal monitor?  I guess that makes decent sense.  Thanks.

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Re: AVGA & D9200. Games centered in screen, not filling
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2006, 02:55:47 pm »
wait, your running vertical on horizontal?  then i'd make myself a cookie cutout of a 3:4 aspect ratio inside the dimensions of your actual screen and then resize it to fit your cutout.  or something like that.  i didn't even notice you were talking about vertical games, but i think you get the idea.  just make it fit properly at that resolution.

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Re: AVGA & D9200. Games centered in screen, not filling
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2006, 02:59:45 pm »
Ok that makes sense....i will give it a go this evening.  Now I don't feel like I blew $750 as bad :)  I do have a 27" D9200 and don't remember having this issue (although it has been 4 years since I set it up!)

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Re: AVGA & D9200. Games centered in screen, not filling
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2006, 04:46:52 pm »
I have a similar problem.... certain games (space invaders 88 i think is one) run small and tight in my arcade monitor (Betson Imperial).  When i set up my cab i had to adjust once per resolution, but there these few games, when i stretch with monitor control i can make it look good, but then when i run other games they are all stretched out.

I can give you the specifics when i get home on which games are affected, but my gut feeling was i needed to tell space invaders to run at another resolution or a res that no other game uses then manually adjust?  What do you all think?