I want to make a FPS

[Mr_Biggs]

Hi all, im a cheap bastard. always have been. most likely will always be. so, as i was searching the megagames.com website for good freeware FPS , i realized that im capable of making my own FPS, rather than find something i like. So, i have a few questions:
What code(s) do i need to learn?
What are some good programs for making 3D models for the game?
Any good suggestions for a game?

Thanks.

[JonnyBoy]

Well, if you have a decent machine you can play around with this...

http://www.thegamecreators.com/

http://www.fpscreator.com/about.html

It's actually really fun to play around with, and you can make some pretty nice looking stuff. I'm not sure if you can make your own models or not but it can be a nice starting point.

[Tahnok]

Or, if you want to make 2D games, use Game Maker (completely free):

www.gamemaker.nl

It has a bit of a learning curve, but I love it and use it all the time. You can create full games without registering (it will be a long time before you need anything in the registered version).

[JonnyBoy]

I love Gamemaker, it's a lot of fun. Seiklus is one of the coolest games ever, too.

[AtomSmasher]

If you want to get a bit more complicated and do some real coding you could try http://crystalspace3d.org/  which is the best free 3d game engine IMO.

I'm actually starting to make a game using the torque engine http://www.garagegames.com/products/1
It costs $100 to license the engine and the engine is a bit dated, but it has the best support, documentation, tutorials, and community which makes it worth it to me.

Both of those engines require quite a bit of programming knowledge (C++ is the language they use), so they're not for a beginner.  Hell, I have a degree in computer science (computer programming) and I'm having a tough time figuring out the torque engine.

[AtomSmasher]

Well, if you have a decent machine you can play around with this...

http://www.thegamecreators.com/

http://www.fpscreator.com/about.html

It's actually really fun to play around with, and you can make some pretty nice looking stuff. I'm not sure if you can make your own models or not but it can be a nice starting point.

I've never seen fps creator before, but looking over its web site it looks pretty cool, especially for those who don't know how to do much programming.

[JonnyBoy]

They had a program before that called 3d game maker or something similar, and it allowed you to create driving games, fps games, and 3rd person action games. FPS creator is much more intuitive though.

[RayB]

Personally, I'd start with one of the proven FPS engines. There's no sense in starting with something crappy (which is what I remember that 3D game maker as being). A game like Half-Life already has "perfect" controls. So start with that and do a total conversion mod. Or mod Unreal Tournament.

[AtomSmasher]

Personally, I'd start with one of the proven FPS engines. There's no sense in starting with something crappy (which is what I remember that 3D game maker as being). A game like Half-Life already has "perfect" controls. So start with that and do a total conversion mod. Or mod Unreal Tournament.

Agreed, mods are a good way to make a game as long as your game mechanics don't differ too much from the game your modding.  You might want to try and find the special edition dvd version of Unreal Tournament 2004 because it came with a seperate dvd that contained a ton of tutorials on how to mod it. 

The torque engine I mentioned above is a complete game engine which you can mod the same way you would most games and make a game only by editing the script files, but it also comes with the complete source code so you can do a lot more with it, but as I said, its not for beginners.

[Stingray]

I want to be an astronaut.

-S

[Havok]

I want to be an astronaut.

-S

But, you have that little problem with incontinence, so you will instead be a state or federal employee...

[Stingray]

I want to be an astronaut.

-S

But, you have that little problem with incontinence, so you will instead be a state or federal employee...

I'm already a state employee. Astronauts get unlimited 'tang, or so I hear.

-S

[missioncontrol]

I want to be an astronaut.

-S

I volunteer you to be sent to pluto

[ChadTower]

As the Chief Kicker I expect to be first to set foot on Uranus.

[Harry Potter]

I want to be an astronaut.

-S

Can I make a Uranus joke teacher, can I, can I, can I?

[ChadTower]

No, you are too slow.

[Harry Potter]

And stupid, don't forget stupid.

[ChadTower]

Where I grew up, they mean the same thing.

[Luxury]

Frames Per Second?  Huh?

[Mr_Biggs]

Hmm... Fps Creator looks good, but i said im a cheap bastard, so paying for it isnt an option , and im screwed with dialup, so downloading a trial version is out of question . Would anyone consider sending me a burned "demo" copy of FPS maker, for a gmail invite? Email me at jakebiggs@gmail.com, to dicuss a trade, as some items cannot be discussed on this board . Are enemies gibbable in FPS creator? Can i make squad-based shooters with voice and lip-syncing? this is hot.

[thebrownshow]

Can i make squad-based shooters with voice and lip-syncing? this is hot.

Why don't you just get into the whole mod scene rather than trying to make one from scratch?  Sounds like you might be biting off a bit more than you'd be able to chew without your own dev team.

[JoyMonkey]

You should start off by trying to create a map or two for UT2k4 or HL2 to get an idea of how much work goes into building an enjoyable FPS environment. Also, UT2k4 and HL2 come with lots of pre-fabbed objects and textures that you can use easily to get you started.

I started learning Unreal Tourney 2004 mapping a while ago, and it's taking me a while to get to grips with it. But getting to frag your friends in a level that you created is well worth the time and effort.

[SOAPboy]

Hmm... Fps Creator looks good, but i said im a cheap bastard, so paying for it isnt an option , and im screwed with dialup, so downloading a trial version is out of question . Would anyone consider sending me a burned "demo" copy of FPS maker, for a gmail invite? Email me at jakebiggs@gmail.com, to dicuss a trade, as some items cannot be discussed on this board . Are enemies gibbable in FPS creator? Can i make squad-based shooters with voice and lip-syncing? this is hot.

Best i can do is upload a "cough demo cough" to some webspace and get you a DL link..

[ChadTower]

The concept of making a full map of the neighborhood where we all grew up, and then killing them all on it, intrigues me.

[Harry Potter]

The concept of making a full map of the neighborhood where we all grew up, and then killing them all on it, intrigues me.

Why make maps. You can do it for real. You know you want to. 

[ChadTower]

Can't, really... some of the buildings are gone now.  I would build it of the neighborhood circia 1990.

[JoyMonkey]

The concept of making a full map of the neighborhood where we all grew up, and then killing them all on it, intrigues me.

Why make maps. You can do it for real. You know you want to. 

Don't encourage him, I live in that neighbourhood now and I'm perfectly happy being alive.

[thebrownshow]

The concept of making a full map of the neighborhood where we all grew up, and then killing them all on it, intrigues me.

Back in college a buddy of mine made a Quake level based on our computer labs... PC screens were even breakable. 

[AtomSmasher]

The concept of making a full map of the neighborhood where we all grew up, and then killing them all on it, intrigues me.

Back in college a buddy of mine made a Quake level based on our computer labs... PC screens were even breakable. 

Ya, a friend of mine did our dorms in half-life, wasn't that great of a level because it was mostly long halls with tons of doors.

[ChadTower]

Don't encourage him, I live in that neighbourhood now and I'm perfectly happy being alive.

That's actually really funny.   

[Mr_Biggs]

SOAPboy, check your private msg.