Nester DC

[ChadTower]

I don't normally emulate but decided to put an NES emu disc in my DC kiosk.  One thing I've noticed, though, is that the controls are weird.  I know it's not the controller, that works fine on real DC games.

Does anyone else here experience difficulty with real precision of control using the D Pad in Nester DC?

[walls83]

it is your controller.  The DC controller has a "squishy" 4 way compared to the og NES controller.

[ChadTower]

It's not the controller.  The controller works perfectly in DC games.

The issue is that the DC D pad has a larger center post under the cross, making it quicker to go in any given direction and harder to get back.  This means, for instance, a lot of false UPs when you're trying to dodge in Punch Out.

I get the impression that since the D pad wasn't designed to be the primary control on the DC, it just wasn't made to be used for such high speed/precision.

The analog stick works better for accuracy but just doesn't feel right... it's not a D pad.

[walls83]

You just answered your own question.

[ChadTower]

This was the question:

Does anyone else here experience difficulty with real precision of control using the D Pad in Nester DC?

"It is your controller" does not even address the actual question.

It is a yes or no question, presumably answered "yes" indirectly from your response.

[Goz]

Yes

[ChadTower]

So, in your opinion, what is the most true-to-NES approach to take, controller wise?

[walls83]

Well the most true is to hack a NES controller.  But I use a MADCATZ retrocon controller and it works great.

[ChadTower]

Hasn't it already been discussed, though, that a real NES controller simply encodes its signals too differently?  Probably more work than it's worth.

I'll look up the Retrocon, thanks for the tip.

[Goz]

Could hack a pad and use a stick.

[walls83]

http://www.freewebtown.com/mrchips/

[ChadTower]

That's pretty cool, but as posted, this is a DC kiosk.  Wouldn't make sense.

[spiffyshoes]

Why couldn't you hack the NES controllers on to the Kiosk?  You could use the DreamCast controllers as a Project box and put a pass through port into one of the memory card slots or something.  Then you could still use the DreamCast controllers for playing DC games and just plug the NES controllers in whenever you want to play Nester DC.

[ChadTower]

Because the point of the whole thing is to have it look just like at retail, but have a disc of NES games in there.

Discs don't get swapped, thus the emu disc is it once I put it in.

[spiffyshoes]

Well I guess if you can't modify it to hold some NES controllers where the DC controllers go then there isn't much you can do about it.  You'll just have to stick with useing the D-Pad from the DreamCast controller. 

[ChadTower]

I swapped it to the stick... works a little better.

[Frosty]

Yeah...it takes a little getting used to, since there's a little more movement/play in the D-pad for the DC controller.  Just jam a whole bunch of dirt and dust down there to firm that baby right up...

[ChadTower]

Hrm... maybe if I took the controller apart I could trim down that center post a little.