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Nester DC
« on: January 04, 2006, 09:15:00 am »

I don't normally emulate but decided to put an NES emu disc in my DC kiosk.  One thing I've noticed, though, is that the controls are weird.  I know it's not the controller, that works fine on real DC games.

Does anyone else here experience difficulty with real precision of control using the D Pad in Nester DC?

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2006, 09:24:50 am »
it is your controller.  The DC controller has a "squishy" 4 way compared to the og NES controller.
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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2006, 10:08:09 am »

It's not the controller.  The controller works perfectly in DC games.

The issue is that the DC D pad has a larger center post under the cross, making it quicker to go in any given direction and harder to get back.  This means, for instance, a lot of false UPs when you're trying to dodge in Punch Out.

I get the impression that since the D pad wasn't designed to be the primary control on the DC, it just wasn't made to be used for such high speed/precision.

The analog stick works better for accuracy but just doesn't feel right... it's not a D pad.

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2006, 10:16:14 am »
You just answered your own question.
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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2006, 01:17:41 pm »

This was the question:

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Does anyone else here experience difficulty with real precision of control using the D Pad in Nester DC?

"It is your controller" does not even address the actual question.

It is a yes or no question, presumably answered "yes" indirectly from your response.

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2006, 01:35:56 pm »
Yes

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2006, 01:38:48 pm »

So, in your opinion, what is the most true-to-NES approach to take, controller wise?

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2006, 01:49:57 pm »
Well the most true is to hack a NES controller.  But I use a MADCATZ retrocon controller and it works great.
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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2006, 01:56:14 pm »

Hasn't it already been discussed, though, that a real NES controller simply encodes its signals too differently?  Probably more work than it's worth.

I'll look up the Retrocon, thanks for the tip.

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2006, 02:01:57 pm »
Could hack a pad and use a stick.


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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2006, 02:03:24 pm »
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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2006, 02:11:19 pm »

That's pretty cool, but as posted, this is a DC kiosk.  Wouldn't make sense.

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2006, 11:33:22 pm »
Why couldn't you hack the NES controllers on to the Kiosk?  You could use the DreamCast controllers as a Project box and put a pass through port into one of the memory card slots or something.  Then you could still use the DreamCast controllers for playing DC games and just plug the NES controllers in whenever you want to play Nester DC.

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2006, 09:04:04 am »

Because the point of the whole thing is to have it look just like at retail, but have a disc of NES games in there.

Discs don't get swapped, thus the emu disc is it once I put it in.

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2006, 09:32:01 am »
Well I guess if you can't modify it to hold some NES controllers where the DC controllers go then there isn't much you can do about it.  You'll just have to stick with useing the D-Pad from the DreamCast controller.  :-\

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2006, 09:36:39 am »

I swapped it to the stick... works a little better.

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2006, 12:57:25 pm »
Yeah...it takes a little getting used to, since there's a little more movement/play in the D-pad for the DC controller.  Just jam a whole bunch of dirt and dust down there to firm that baby right up...

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Re: Nester DC
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2006, 01:14:22 pm »

Hrm... maybe if I took the controller apart I could trim down that center post a little.