Mamewah w/ Neo Geo games???

[Gaston77]

Hi,

I have a small issue with Neo geo roms not loading in mamewah. I have the roms and they work perfectly fine with Neorage. All of them. I also have neogeo.zip which is the BIOS file. When mamewah generates the list, they all come up in the list as well(Im using ROM vs List generation method)!! And to make it even more bizarre; some NEogeo roms start up without any problem whatsoever. Lets take the KOF series as an example; KOF 94 works, 95 does not, 96 does, 97 does not 98 does not etc. Same goes for other NeoGeo Roms. When I load the non-working roms it tells me there is an error in mame.ini and more specifically in lines 49 (external app settings) and up. Mamewah then goes on to unzip the rom but in the end reverts back to the game selection screen. THe errors that mamewah indicates have to do with the external settings...something in these settings must instruct Mamewah NOT to load certain ROMsets? Now for the killer; I have no external settings as you can see below;



### mame.ini (mamewah v1.61) ###

emulator_title                            M.A.M.E.

### List Generation Settings ###
rom_path                                  c:\mame\roms
rom_extension                             zip
dat_file                                 
nms_file                                 
catver_ini_file                           
list_generation_method                    rom_folder_vs_listxml

### Execution Settings ###
emulator_executable                       c:\mame\mame.exe
commandline_format                        [name]{autodosbox}{nosafelaunch}
alt_commandline_format_1                  [name]{autodosbox}{nosafelaunch}
alt_commandline_format_2                  [name]{autodosbox}{nosafelaunch}
game_specific_config_path                 

### Artwork Locations ###
artwork_1_image_path                      c:\mame\snap
artwork_2_image_path                     
artwork_3_image_path                     
artwork_4_image_path                     
artwork_5_image_path                     
artwork_6_image_path                     
artwork_7_image_path                     
artwork_8_image_path                     
artwork_9_image_path                     
artwork_10_image_path                     
movie_preview_path                       
movie_artwork_no                          1

### Screen-Saver Settings ###
enable_music_in_screensaver               0
saver_type                                slideshow
movie_path                               
movie_fullscreen                          0
quit_delay                                30
wrapper_executable                       
wrapper_commandline_format                [name]{nodosbox}{nosafelaunch}
scr_file                                 

### External Application Settings ###
ipc_file_or_path                         
app_1_executable                         
app_1_commandline_format                 
app_2_executable                         
app_2_commandline_format                 
app_3_executable                         
app_3_commandline_format                 
auto_launch_apps                         

### Additional Settings ###
music_path                               
lcd_display_file_path                     
lcd_fe_text                               

### Settings used by MAMEWAH ###
current_list                              0



Please help me with this problem as I would also love to play KOF98 etc on my soon to be cabinet! Help is appreciated very much...

Happy 2006!!

[Gaston77]

and here is an example of the (notepad) message KOF not running;

1-1-2006 13:39:34 MAMEWAH launched
1-1-2006 13:39:34 Cursor scheme: Windows-standaard, Arrow: (None), Wait: (None), AppStarting: (None)
1-1-2006 13:39:34 Desktop colour: 9981440
1-1-2006 13:39:34 Wallpaper filename:
1-1-2006 13:39:34 Display mode: 1024x768 @ 60Hz, 32 bit colour
1-1-2006 13:39:34 Decimal symbol: ','
1-1-2006 13:39:34 Games list read: mame-0.lst
1-1-2006 13:39:35 Layout selected: C:\Mame\layouts\Classic 640x480\layout.lay
1-1-2006 13:39:35 Ctrlr file selected: C:\Mame\ctrlr\default.ini
1-1-2006 13:39:38 Commandline run: CMD.EXE /c c:\mame\mame.exe KOF98 -verifyroms > C:\Mame\files\verify {flags=17}
1-1-2006 13:39:39 Commandline run: c:\mame\mame.exe KOF98 {flags=12}
1-1-2006 13:39:49 MAMEWAH quit

[Gaston77]

scratch that. I went into DOS and went to see what the error is/was;
When I type the following in the DOS line;


c:\mame\mame.exe KOF2002 -verifyroms > C:\Mame\files\verify

mame goes through the entire mame.ini file and says;
error: unknown option emulator_title on line 3 of file mame.ini
    ignoring line

and it then goes through the entire mame.ini file in that fashion.

[Gaston77]

I am still struggling here. Please help if somebody has a clue as to why my Neo Roms dont work.... 

[jcrouse]

When I load the non-working roms it tells me there is an error in mame.ini and more specifically in lines 49 (external app settings) and up.

It is referring to the mame.ini file that is in the mame folder. When updating mame you should always regenerate a new mame.ini fle and then move your setting over from the old mame.ini file. What version of Mame are you using: Have you upgraded recently?

Just an FYI,
John

[Gaston77]

Hello John,

yes, I am using the latest version of Mame. I have tried reinstalling mame several times but to no avail. Some Neo Roms work fine (metal slug 2 for example). I am thinking it might be because of the difference in Romdump method between NeoRageX and Mame. CLRMame is very complicated though.... any other suggestions maybe?

Thanks!

[jcrouse]

Yes, get a good/current set of Mame roms.

John

[Gaston77]

update;

I have scanned all my files with CLRMAME and apart from the obvious ROMS which I dont have (such as CHD images), ALL my romsets are complete and accounted for!!! I have made non-merged sets from all of my ROM zips which basically puts ALL the files you need per game in each Rom zip. It costs some space but hey, it should work, right?

Unfortunately...it doesnt. Some games don't come up no matter what I try. See above for my mame and mamewah settings. Does anyone have any clue what the problem might be??

Thanks again. THank heaven this forum exists! 

[2600]

Why is MAME reading your MAMEWAH mame.ini?

MAME has it's own mame.ini file and it doesn't include the words "emulator_title".

[Gaston77]

Hi. THat is a good point your bringing up. So;

you launch mamewah. Mamewah then reads its own ini file in the ini folder (\mamewah\mame.ini)? once Mamewah starts and you launch a game, mame chooses its own ini (\mame\mame.ini). I always thought these were the same? Stupid of me.

So where can I change these settings then (the "real" mame. ini settings? It seems there is a conflict somewhere.

Thanks!!!!!

[Setabs]

Go to your "c:\mame"

find the mame.ini or mamepp.ini if you have the pentium optimized version.

it should look like this:

### mamepp.ini ###

### Frontend Related ###
clones                  1

### Windows path and directory options ###
rompath                 roms
samplepath              samples
# inipath               <NULL> (not set)
cfg_directory           cfg
nvram_directory         nvram
memcard_directory       memcard
input_directory         inp
hiscore_directory       hi
state_directory         sta
artwork_directory       artwork
snapshot_directory      snap
diff_directory          diff
ctrlr_directory         ctrlr
cheat_file              cheat.dat
history_file            history.dat
mameinfo_file           mameinfo.dat

### Windows video options ###
autoframeskip           1
frameskip               0
waitvsync               0
triplebuffer            0
window                  0
ddraw                   1
direct3d                0
hwstretch               1
cleanstretch            auto
resolution              auto
zoom                    2
refresh                 0
scanlines               0
switchres               1
switchbpp               1
maximize                1
keepaspect              1
matchrefresh            0
syncrefresh             0
throttle                1
full_screen_brightness   0.000000
frames_to_run           0
effect                  none
screen_aspect           4:3
sleep                   1
rdtsc                   0
high_priority           0

### Windows Direct3D 2D video options ###
d3dtexmanage            1
d3dfilter               1
d3dfeedback             0
d3dscan                 100
d3deffectrotate         1
d3dprescale             auto
d3deffect               none
# d3dcustom             <NULL> (not set)
# d3dexpert             <NULL> (not set)

### Windows sound options ###
audio_latency           1

### Input device options ###
mouse                   1
joystick                1
lightgun                0
dual_lightgun           0
offscreen_reload        0
steadykey               0
keyboard_leds           1
a2d_deadzone            0.300000
# ctrlr                 <NULL> (not set)

### Mame CORE video options ###
norotate                0
ror                     0
rol                     0
autoror                 0
autorol                 0
flipx                   0
flipy                   0
debug_resolution        auto
gamma                   1.000000
brightness              1.000000
pause_brightness        0.650000

### Mame CORE vector game options ###
antialias               1
translucency            1
beam                    1.000000
flicker                 0.000000
intensity               1.500000

### Mame CORE sound options ###
samplerate              44100
samples                 1
resamplefilter          1
sound                   1
volume                  0

### Mame CORE misc options ###
artwork                 1
use_backdrops           1
use_overlays            1
use_bezels              1
artwork_crop            0
artwork_resolution      0
cheat                   0
debug                   0
# playback              <NULL> (not set)
# record                <NULL> (not set)
log                     0
maxlogsize              10000
oslog                   0
skip_disclaimer         1
skip_gameinfo           1
crconly                 0
bios                    default

### Configuration options ###
readconfig              1
verbose                 0

Try this:
1. Make a new folder and copy of your mame folder's contents.  Don't copy folders only the files under "c:\mame"

2. Delete the the files in "c:\mame" that you just made a copy of.

3. download and open the zipped mame file.  copy the contents of the zipped file to your "c:\mame" folder.  remember you do not need to copy the folders contained in the zip file.

4. goto the "Start Button" the "Run" type "CMD" then hit enter.

5. goto the "c:\mame" folder and run "mame -createconfig".  This will create your "mame.ini" file

6. now edit the .ini to point to the correct directories and set your other options.

now go and try running the rom using the command line method.  If that works then try mamewah.

[Gaston77]

you are my new hero.

THank you. After I get back from work, it's the first thing I'll be doing

I'll let you know what happens

[Gaston77]

 

I wanted to give a big THANK YOU to you all for helping me out. I followed Setab's advice and my games work like a charm!!! Every single one of the 5835 games I have now got at my disposal. Don't know what I would have done without your advice!


Hello gaming nirvana, goodbye social life! IOU 5835!

Thanks
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