I just scored 868,450 on Super Punch-Out

[MaximRecoil]

On my machine, TG settings.

This beats all known records, both arcade and MAME, including the unconfirmed one on MARP of 848,530.

From Twin Galaxies:





From MARP:


 

[More Cowbell]

Nicely done! Hey, tell me this, how the hell do you beat Dragon Chan with his stupid karate kick? I'm very good at Punchout! but feel like a moron that I can't get past the second guy in Super Punchout! Again, nicely done on that score, amazing!

[Scott84]

On Super Punch-Out for SNES

I couldnt beat that Crazy Chinese Guy with the cane... the 3rd last guy... 10 years after i got the game, in 2004. I finally beat him.

Then i got to the next guy, couldnt beat him either.

heh.

[RayB]

Nicely done! Hey, tell me this, how the hell do you beat Dragon Chan with his stupid karate kick? I'm very good at Punchout! but feel like a moron that I can't get past the second guy in Super Punchout! Again, nicely done on that score, amazing!

Duck his kicks.

[MaximRecoil]

Nicely done! Hey, tell me this, how the hell do you beat Dragon Chan with his stupid karate kick? I'm very good at Punchout! but feel like a moron that I can't get past the second guy in Super Punchout! Again, nicely done on that score, amazing!

Like RayB said, you need to duck his kicks. On the real machine, you pull the joystick straight up to do that (it has a 5-way joystick) or in MAME, button number 4 ducks I believe.

I got pretty good at the original Punch-Out back when it first came out in '84. A couple of years later, Super Punch-Out showed up across town and to my surprise, I lost to the first guy the first time I played it. But anyway, you need to learn how to duck at the right times to get anywhere in SPO because 3 of the 5 opponents (Bear Hugger, Dragon Chan, and Super Macho Man) have special one-hit-KO moves that you have to either duck or get knocked down instantly.

The real machine made sure that people knew about the duck function, with a big red duck-instruction sticker that went on the CP around the base of the joystick; this sticker was included in the Super Punch-Out conversion kit. Also, duck instructions are given in attract mode. With real machines on location, it is more likely that someone is going to watch the attract mode for a minute or two to decide whether they think the game is worth a quarter or not. In Mame, not only are you not going to see the sticker on the CP obviously, but it is free and there is really no pressing reason to watch the attract mode, just start it up and immediately press "5" to "insert a quarter". And particularly with Punch-Out players, since SPO looks the same as PO other than the opponents, there is no reason to suspect that there would be an additional control function over what Punch-Out had.

[MaximRecoil]

On Super Punch-Out for SNES

I couldnt beat that Crazy Chinese Guy with the cane... the 3rd last guy... 10 years after i got the game, in 2004. I finally beat him.

Then i got to the next guy, couldnt beat him either.

heh.

That guy is extremely patterned, in fact, all of the opponents are extremely patterned in SNES SPO. I had trouble with the guy with the cane (Hoy Quarlow) and the two Bruiser brothers that follow, but after memorizing their patterns they were easy. I beat the game the first time I rented it back in '95 or so, within the 1 day rental period, though it took most of those waking hours to do it I think. So persistence is the key to that game because if you try a few times and then come back to it a few weeks later, you will probably have forgotten the patterns to a point.

Both the arcade Punch-Out and especially Super Punch-Out are not nearly as patterned. You learn visual cues that tell you what the opponent will do next, rather than learning a strict pattern. Those visual cues stay in memory for a lot longer of time than a pattern does. I have walked up to Punch-Out or Super Punch-Out machines after years of not playing and had no problems doing as well as the last time I played. You can wing it on SNES SPO as well up until those last 4 guys in the "Special Circuit", particularly the last 3 guys, where memorizing a pattern is essential to beating them. It would take me an hour or two of retries to beat those last 3 guys right now, because I haven't played it in a few years and I can't remember entire patterns for that long.

[More Cowbell]

I completely forgot that this game had a duck button. I guess I could have looked at the tab config menu to see that there was a 4th button used. Doy! Thanks for the tip, guys.

[MaximRecoil]

988,090

I didn't have to lose. I was trying to get as close to a million as I could without rolling the score over, so I could leave a good-looking high score on my machine. I was on Vodka Drunkenski, something like the 34th or 35th fight. I was going slow, trying to let the time bonus run down enough so I could win the match but not roll the score to zero. It wasn't working, I was at 988-something thousand and the time bonus was at something like 13,000. The time ended up running out. Even adding the minimum time bonus to my final score would have put me over so it wouldn't have helped even if I'd have KO'd Drunkenski at 2:59.

An absolute top score really isn't my goal, not unless I am taping it for Twin Galaxies. I want to get 999,990 for the "prettiest" score possible to stay on my machine. Plus, I've gotten to the point that I can marathon that game, so my potential top score is only limited by my endurance.