Main Restorations Software Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Everything Else Buy/Sell/Trade
Project Announcements Monitor/Video GroovyMAME Merit/JVL Touchscreen Meet Up Retail Vendors
Driving & Racing Woodworking Software Support Forums Consoles Project Arcade Reviews
Automated Projects Artwork Frontend Support Forums Pinball Forum Discussion Old Boards
Raspberry Pi & Dev Board controls.dat Linux Miscellaneous Arcade Wiki Discussion Old Archives
Lightguns Arcade1Up Try the site in https mode Site News

Unread posts | New Replies | Recent posts | Rules | Chatroom | Wiki | File Repository | RSS | Submit news

  

Author Topic: dreamcast being rereleased  (Read 4614 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

SirPoonga

  • Puck'em Up
  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8188
  • Last login:July 20, 2025, 03:37:24 pm
  • The Bears Still Suck!

NIVO

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1256
  • Last login:March 20, 2025, 03:33:34 pm
  • danny_galaga is my mail man.
    • N.A.M.E. - arcade cabinet project
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2005, 03:25:19 am »
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/1441  <------ i still want this to be a reality. I know i'd get in line and gladly pay up to $100 for a pci card that could play dc stuff. Of course the whole gdrom thing would have to be worked out(but nothing that couldnt be overcome).

Lilwolf

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4945
  • Last login:July 31, 2022, 10:26:34 pm
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2005, 09:26:50 am »
I came here to post the rerelease!

Heck, if they produced a PCI version... I would hope they would try and incorporate a non-media version...

put an ID in each card which is non-configurable.  Then do like IToons does it.. you download each game where it would ONLY work on your computer / card.

Now that would be kick ass!

And if you have registered the product, you could download it for a small charge.

Now that would be cool!


JoyMonkey

  • Voodoo Wiki Master . . .
  • Wiki Master
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2899
  • Last login:June 16, 2025, 09:16:27 pm
  • Candy is Dandy but Liquor is Quicker
    • JoyMonkey.com
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2005, 09:52:28 am »
I really hope Sega gets back into the hardware side of things again soon.
Thinking of the Dreamcast's mainstream failure breaks my little monkey-heart  :'(

A PCI card that lets people download games and play them on their computers?
Drop in Genesis and Saturn emulators and it sounds like the most appealing part
of the Nintendo Revolution has some competition brewing.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!

Grasshopper

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2380
  • Last login:March 04, 2025, 07:13:36 pm
  • life, don't talk to me about life
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2005, 11:07:17 am »
You know the more I think about it the more I ask myself how could a re-released Dreamcast not succeed? I mean if it's possible to make money out of repackaged Commodore 64s and Atari 2600s then surely someone can still make money out of the Dreamcast. And the Dreamcast is not just a nostalgia trip. I've yet to see a PS2 or X-Box game that the Dreamcast couldn't handle. I bet Sega are kicking themselves that they lost their nerve and stopped production so soon.

However, I think they would be wise to give the machine a facelift. The original beige boxes looked a little dull and people need to feel like they're buying something new otherwise they'll just keep buying second hand Dreamcasts off Ebay. Also it needs to be made more "plug & play". A VGA converter should be built in and also some flash memory so that VMUs are not required. I think potential customers will be turned off if they have to buy a load of extras to do anything useful.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson

Grasshopper

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2380
  • Last login:March 04, 2025, 07:13:36 pm
  • life, don't talk to me about life
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2005, 11:10:42 am »
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/1441  <------ i still want this to be a reality. I know i'd get in line and gladly pay up to $100 for a pci card that could play dc stuff. Of course the whole gdrom thing would have to be worked out(but nothing that couldnt be overcome).

A DC PCI card is a very nice idea but unfortunately I don't see it happening.

An Amiga based PCI card was promised many many years ago but it never go off the drawing board. I believe a DC PCI card would fail for the same reasons.

There are three problems.

Firstly, interfacing the DC to a PC is going to be trickier than most people realise and therefore cost a lot in terms of research and development.

Secondly, this would only be a niche product and therefore the manufacturer wouldn't be able to achieve the volume of sales required to bring the price per unit down to a reasonable level.

Thirdly, it would have to compete with emulators such as Chankast. Chankast may be slower and more buggy than a real DC at the moment but by the time the PCI card reached market Chankast might well be as fast as the real thing.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson

Goz

  • KOTA
  • Trade Count: (+10)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3421
  • Last login:June 25, 2024, 10:06:41 pm
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2005, 11:18:04 am »
There has been no new updates to Chankast in about a year

MameMaster!

  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2058
  • Last login:June 02, 2020, 11:01:15 pm
  • Engage number one!
    • Mame Invaders!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2005, 11:43:44 am »
...I agree.....I think it's amazing that the NES along with many others have been re released but not the DC.

I think if they could package it for $75. bucks with a pack in game...it would be slam dunk.

I would even buy another just to add to the 4 I own.

I still tend to use it more than my Xbox.
Seriously. Will it fit in my basement or what?

versapak

  • Somewhere between a block of wood and a monkey
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1655
  • Last login:October 08, 2024, 04:40:31 am
  • I am t3h GAY!!!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2005, 12:12:27 pm »
$75 might be a bit much

You can get a gamecube, which is still actively supported, for only $5 more.

Maybe $50 with a few games would be a good deal, otherwise it wouldn't be worth their effort to re-release the machine.



MameMaster!

  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2058
  • Last login:June 02, 2020, 11:01:15 pm
  • Engage number one!
    • Mame Invaders!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2005, 01:22:12 pm »
$75 might be a bit much

You can get a gamecube, which is still actively supported, for only $5 more.

Maybe $50 with a few games would be a good deal, otherwise it wouldn't be worth their effort to re-release the machine.




hmmm....good point.....but I wonder if they could sell it for that little and still make enough profit to make it worthwhile.
Seriously. Will it fit in my basement or what?

Lilwolf

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4945
  • Last login:July 31, 2022, 10:26:34 pm
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2005, 02:08:25 pm »
I bet it wouldn't be as hard as you would expect.  Mainly because dreamcast can already output vga signals.   So connect directinput for the controls (and have a few spots in the back for original controllers).   

Then getting the data from another source... really be the trouble. 

Then rearranging the board onto a pci board...

ok not super easy...  But I could see them selling a lot to people who already love teh dreamcast... and other then a portable version, I don't see them selling many

testicle187

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 479
  • Last login:April 10, 2025, 05:29:07 pm
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2005, 10:01:04 am »
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/1441  <------ i still want this to be a reality. I know i'd get in line and gladly pay up to $100 for a pci card that could play dc stuff. Of course the whole gdrom thing would have to be worked out(but nothing that couldnt be overcome).

A DC PCI card is a very nice idea but unfortunately I don't see it happening.

An Amiga based PCI card was promised many many years ago but it never go off the drawing board. I believe a DC PCI card would fail for the same reasons.

There are three problems.

Firstly, interfacing the DC to a PC is going to be trickier than most people realise and therefore cost a lot in terms of research and development.

Secondly, this would only be a niche product and therefore the manufacturer wouldn't be able to achieve the volume of sales required to bring the price per unit down to a reasonable level.

Thirdly, it would have to compete with emulators such as Chankast. Chankast may be slower and more buggy than a real DC at the moment but by the time the PCI card reached market Chankast might well be as fast as the real thing.

They used to make a video card that let you play Sega Saturn Games on your PC and use Saturn controllers via it...  Diamond Edge 3d cards I believe.  I don't see why they couldn't do this with the Dreamcast as well, if they REALLY wanted to :)

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38212
  • Last login:June 22, 2025, 04:57:38 pm
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2005, 10:03:55 am »
They used to make a video card that let you play Sega Saturn Games on your PC and use Saturn controllers via it...

versapak

  • Somewhere between a block of wood and a monkey
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1655
  • Last login:October 08, 2024, 04:40:31 am
  • I am t3h GAY!!!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2005, 10:08:56 am »
They used to make a video card that let you play Sega Saturn Games on your PC and use Saturn controllers via it...
« Last Edit: December 13, 2005, 10:11:18 am by versapak »

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38212
  • Last login:June 22, 2025, 04:57:38 pm
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2005, 10:12:02 am »

Right... I'm a big Saturn fan... if they had actually been able to play Saturn games, rather than ports, I'd have had to track one or two down.

Grasshopper

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2380
  • Last login:March 04, 2025, 07:13:36 pm
  • life, don't talk to me about life
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2005, 01:08:33 pm »
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/1441  <------ i still want this to be a reality. I know i'd get in line and gladly pay up to $100 for a pci card that could play dc stuff. Of course the whole gdrom thing would have to be worked out(but nothing that couldnt be overcome).

A DC PCI card is a very nice idea but unfortunately I don't see it happening.

An Amiga based PCI card was promised many many years ago but it never go off the drawing board. I believe a DC PCI card would fail for the same reasons.

There are three problems.

Firstly, interfacing the DC to a PC is going to be trickier than most people realise and therefore cost a lot in terms of research and development.

Secondly, this would only be a niche product and therefore the manufacturer wouldn't be able to achieve the volume of sales required to bring the price per unit down to a reasonable level.

Thirdly, it would have to compete with emulators such as Chankast. Chankast may be slower and more buggy than a real DC at the moment but by the time the PCI card reached market Chankast might well be as fast as the real thing.

They used to make a video card that let you play Sega Saturn Games on your PC and use Saturn controllers via it...  Diamond Edge 3d cards I believe.  I don't see why they couldn't do this with the Dreamcast as well, if they REALLY wanted to :)

Interesting. But it sounds like a graphics card that came with ported Saturn games.

I don't doubt that you could fit a Dreamcast motherboard onto a PCI card. But there would be little point unless the Dreamcast could communicate with the PC in some way. For example as a minimum the Dreamcast would need to have access to the PC's CD ROM drive and hard disk. There would also need to be some means of launching Dreamcast programs from the PC. You'd need drivers, a rudimentary API etc. Would multitasking be allowed i.e. could Dreamcast and PC programs be run simultaneously. Would DC and PC programs be able to communicate with one another whilst running? Would the Dreamcast and PC share the same memory? Lots of tricky decisions.

It's certainly doable but I suspect it would cost more than most people realise. It may actually be easier for Sega to write a Dreamcast emulator for the PC. They'd have the inside knowledge to make it really fast and stable.
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson

TravistyOJ

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 215
  • Last login:September 19, 2020, 09:34:19 pm
  • DRK LFG!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2005, 02:19:24 pm »
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes."

-Douglas Adams

Grasshopper

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2380
  • Last login:March 04, 2025, 07:13:36 pm
  • life, don't talk to me about life
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2005, 02:53:32 pm »
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." - Samuel Johnson

Goz

  • KOTA
  • Trade Count: (+10)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3421
  • Last login:June 25, 2024, 10:06:41 pm
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2005, 04:38:09 pm »
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/1441  <------ i still want this to be a reality. I know i'd get in line and gladly pay up to $100 for a pci card that could play dc stuff. Of course the whole gdrom thing would have to be worked out(but nothing that couldnt be overcome).

A DC PCI card is a very nice idea but unfortunately I don't see it happening.

An Amiga based PCI card was promised many many years ago but it never go off the drawing board. I believe a DC PCI card would fail for the same reasons.

There are three problems.

Firstly, interfacing the DC to a PC is going to be trickier than most people realise and therefore cost a lot in terms of research and development.

Secondly, this would only be a niche product and therefore the manufacturer wouldn't be able to achieve the volume of sales required to bring the price per unit down to a reasonable level.

Thirdly, it would have to compete with emulators such as Chankast. Chankast may be slower and more buggy than a real DC at the moment but by the time the PCI card reached market Chankast might well be as fast as the real thing.

They used to make a video card that let you play Sega Saturn Games on your PC and use Saturn controllers via it...  Diamond Edge 3d cards I believe.  I don't see why they couldn't do this with the Dreamcast as well, if they REALLY wanted to :)

Interesting. But it sounds like a graphics card that came with ported Saturn games.



I worked for Diamond Multimedia in the beginning of the 3D revolution (The Edge and Monster - 3dfx voodoo) in the QA department and I can confirm that the Edge indeed did have Saturn ports and didn't actually play Saturn games. There were some products that Diamond did produce in very minimal quantities that would certainly be cool in todays world. There was one card that did allow you to play 3DO games. If I'm not mistaken Creative made one as well 3D0 Blaster or somthing similarly titled.

-Goz
« Last Edit: December 13, 2005, 04:52:34 pm by Goz »

toyfiend2004

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 109
  • Last login:May 12, 2007, 09:07:04 pm
  • Like... where do you put the quarters, dude?
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2005, 06:57:27 pm »
Would this really be THAT hard?
« Last Edit: December 14, 2005, 12:32:17 pm by toyfiend2004 »

Trenchbroom

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 276
  • Last login:November 21, 2020, 09:25:43 pm
  • Wampus? Get over here!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2005, 09:52:44 pm »

If I'm not mistaken Creative made one as well 3D0 Blaster or somthing similarly titled.

-Goz

The 3DO Blaster I believe it was called.  It did hit the market, although if I remember right it required a specific CD-ROM drive model to work. 

AlanS17

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5382
  • Last login:December 02, 2019, 08:35:48 am
  • I won't even pretend to be clever...
    • AlanS17
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2005, 08:51:15 pm »
If they came out with a Dreamcast on a PCI card, I'd build a PC with the sole purpose of playing DC games and storing them on a hardrive along with other media. That would be sweet. I wouldn't want to integrate it into machine I've already got going. I'd want it dedicated.


versapak

  • Somewhere between a block of wood and a monkey
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1655
  • Last login:October 08, 2024, 04:40:31 am
  • I am t3h GAY!!!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2005, 09:28:21 pm »
If they came out with a Dreamcast on a PCI card, I'd build a PC with the sole purpose of playing DC games and storing them on a hardrive along with other media. That would be sweet. I wouldn't want to integrate it into machine I've already got going. I'd want it dedicated.


Yep


A dreamcast PC, in an aracde cab, with all the greats on the hard drive would be perfect. :)



rackoon

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 715
  • Last login:May 14, 2024, 01:12:10 pm
  • I EAT PENCILS!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2005, 02:20:37 am »
Man, you guys are killing me.

I cant stop salivating.

I have been dreaming about playing zombie revenge, hydro thunder, pod racer etc... on my cab.

Infact I busted my dreamcast out of storage last week and fired that puppy up.

Please tell me it will happen some day.
They treated me like an animal and that's what I became.

Scott84

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 717
  • Last login:May 17, 2022, 08:24:59 pm
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2005, 06:41:46 pm »
Man, you guys are killing me.

I cant stop salivating.

I have been dreaming about playing zombie revenge, hydro thunder, pod racer etc... on my cab.

Infact I busted my dreamcast out of storage last week and fired that puppy up.

Please tell me it will happen some day.

Why not incorporate a DC into your cab?

Havent quite a few people done that already?
"Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man
affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in
darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to
repetitive music." -- Marcus Brigstocke

spiffyshoes

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 620
  • Last login:September 20, 2015, 01:24:46 pm
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2005, 07:57:45 pm »
Yeah, but if the DreamCast was part of your PC you could probably set it up to rungames off the Hard Drive.  In which case you could incorperate it into your front end like Mamewah.

Crowquill

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 920
  • Last login:November 21, 2024, 09:42:17 am
  • Scratch-built Guitar - Under Construction!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2005, 01:25:57 am »
The tricky part of this equation is being able to read the game discs themselves. GD-ROM was a proprietary format. If I remember right, Yamaha made a PC GD-ROM drive, but it would be expensive/hard to track down probably.

I still don't see much advantage to having a DC-on-a-card.
Brevity is not my strong suit.

daywane

  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2570
  • Last login:December 26, 2024, 11:02:08 am
  • GRRRR!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2005, 12:04:28 pm »
backups are not a dreamcast disk, iso's are not hard to find

clanggedin

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1071
  • Last login:July 02, 2012, 11:08:55 pm
  • O'DOYLE RULES!!!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2005, 02:42:00 pm »
Hate to burst your bubble guys, but it was confirmed that they are not rereleasing the Dreamcast, but selling off the refurbished units.

Sorry. Engadget or Gizmodo made this announcement a few days ago.

versapak

  • Somewhere between a block of wood and a monkey
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1655
  • Last login:October 08, 2024, 04:40:31 am
  • I am t3h GAY!!!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2005, 03:10:01 pm »
Hate to burst your bubble guys, but it was confirmed that they are not rereleasing the Dreamcast, but selling off the refurbished units.

Sorry. Engadget or Gizmodo made this announcement a few days ago.


Yep

Though you burst no bubbles here. The info you give was already posted in this very thread 9 days ago. :P



clanggedin

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1071
  • Last login:July 02, 2012, 11:08:55 pm
  • O'DOYLE RULES!!!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2005, 06:05:37 pm »
I guess that's what I get when I don't read the whole thread.  ;)

sp0rk

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 75
  • Last login:August 30, 2007, 04:40:42 pm
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: dreamcast being rereleased
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2006, 01:22:21 am »
http://www.excellentcom.net/super1.asp

for those wanting to play DC in thier cabs.

These look awesome!