Rust repair

[nostrebor]

If it were funnier we could forgive his insult.

Alas, there was no humor, so we are going to have to request that he stick that butterknife in the outlet again.

You've been in my metadata since insulting the humor of my avatar. Of course all humor is objective, and I have already stated that I have not mastered obvious/funny, so there

I do maintain that concrete shoes would be an excellent way to protect your shins from your inability to swing a maul. I never said that there would not be unfortunate sideaffects.

(sorry, Paige. EE is just like this.)

[nostrebor]

I'm pretty sure that's what the implication was.

-S

Actually, no. That was not the implication. Chad comes in handy in Arcade related once in a while, so I do want to keep him around for those questions. 

[ChadTower]

Plus I'm really good at unscrewing stuck pickle jar lids.

[nostrebor]

Request fulfilled.

[MaximRecoil]

Theory? I've been doing auto body repair for 20 years. I know what I'm talking about.

-S

Consider this. My father's '76 Chevy pickup rusted out to the point of needing major body work in 6 years. That is a fact. The riveted repairs lasted at the very least, 10 years and was still completely solid at that point. So what is wrong with riveting again? Under the same Maine conditions, the riveted repairs lasted longer than the original unrepaired sheet metal. Similar deal with my '83 F100. After 10 years (1993) you could see the ground through the floors on both sides of the cab. The riveted repairs lasted at least 8 years and were still completely solid.

So you have seen examples of riveted repairs that rusted out quickly. So have I. I have seen all manner of repairs that have rusted out quickly, including welded repairs. But, obviously the fundamental problem is not with riveting or welding, in and of itself. Preparation and finishing work is what is important. There is no "rule" or "universal law" that riveted repairs will rust out quickly because of overlapping sheet metal; because if there were, you could only explain my father's truck with magic or voodoo or something. Is 10 years with not a spot of rust not good enough? Will Paige still have his 'Burban in 2016 do you think?

Now, you can explain how to make good welding repairs because you have experience with it. I can't explain how to make good riveted repairs because I have never done it; I only know (for a fact) that it can be done because I have seen it.

[DrewKaree]

Probably didn't even think about using a log-splitter either

Those are for little girls and homosexuals. NTTAWWT

-S

I have plans (somewhere on this PC, I can't find a damn thing since formatting and putting my shite back in very little order) for a BYO Log Splitter.  I'm gonna try to get my father-in-law to fund the project, since me funding the log splitter would be ridiculous what with me not having a fireplace OR a need for split wood.  I guess I'm gonna have to start throwing double winky smilies around, because I split wood for camping, and that job sucks ass.

I may have something to email you if/when I find those plans, unless you're insistent on not becoming a little girl.  Wait, you're a BIG girl, so you must have to not become the other.....this thread is starting to get me so kornfused now.  Are we building a log splitter to fix Paige's rust problems or is he just gonna rivet the firewood to the axe and split J.C. Whitney?

[paigeoliver]

I have no plans on owning the truck in 2016. It will probably be retired in 2010. Maybe even sooner, who knows?  Thats only 5 years at max the repairs have to last without looking terrible.

Also, it is not my commuter, but my camping, hauling and road trip vehicle. So there is a pretty decent chance it will never see much any salt either.

[MaximRecoil]

I have no plans on owning the truck in 2016. It will probably be retired in 2010. Maybe even sooner, who knows?

[paigeoliver]

I have no plans on owning the truck in 2016. It will probably be retired in 2010. Maybe even sooner, who knows?  Thats only 5 years at max the repairs have to last without looking terrible.

Also, it is not my commuter, but my camping, hauling and road trip vehicle. So there is a pretty decent chance it will never see much any salt either.

Riveting is something you can do yourself and the whole deal will be pretty cheap. All you need is a power drill (I'm guessing you already have one), a 1/8" drill bit, a rivet gun (under $20), a box of 1/8" steel rivets and some of those weird shaped Vice-Grips (aka: locking welding pliers) like these (optional, but they make things easier by holding your panel in place while you are drilling and riveting):



You'll want some filler/Bondo too, some shears to cut out the old rust, a selection of sandpaper and whatever you want for a finish over that. If it were mine I would put the rubberized undercoating or roofing tar to it, because I could not care less about "pretty" on a old truck.

I have all of that already except for the funny clamps.

I mostly just want it to not have big holes in it like it does now. I test fit the panels that have already arrived and they are large enough (thankfully). I'm not sure if I want to spend a bunch of money making it look great because in 4 or 5 years the body support channels, mounts, bits etc are going to have their own major rust issues (definitely already started, they are all still solid now, but they won't stay that way forever).

[Stingray]

Now, you can explain how to make good welding repairs because you have experience with it. I can't explain how to make good riveted repairs because I have never done it

Enough said.

-S

[paigeoliver]

Well good old JC Whitney sent me the wrong rocker panels. It appears that their computers aren't 100 percent aware that the Suburban body style is 1973 to 1991 and the truck body style is 1973-1987. It seems to be aware for some parts but not for others.

[ChadTower]

It is, however, fully aware that its fly is down.

[MaximRecoil]

Now, you can explain how to make good welding repairs because you have experience with it. I can't explain how to make good riveted repairs because I have never done it

Enough said.

-S

LOL @ "Enough said". How about this? Riveted repairs on a vehicle can and do last for at least 10 years without any signs of rust in Maine. "Enough said".

[DrewKaree]

Now, you can explain how to make good welding repairs because you have experience with it. I can't explain how to make good riveted repairs because I have never done it

Enough said.

-S

Hey everyone, get a load of Mr. HasToHaveTheLastWord



LOL @ "Enough said". How about this? Riveted repairs on a vehicle can and do last for at least 10 years without any signs of rust in Maine. "Enough said".