ArcadeVGA & standard PC monitors

[Bones]

I have just had a call from the computer shop who is building my cab PC. I supplied them with my Arcade VGA card for installation at the same time.

The guy claims that with this card installed he is unable to get a display on a standard computer monitor. I kind of expected this but can anyone confirm this is normal?

The main reason I am concerned is because the card had a hard life in transit due to not being packaged properly as per the below pic. I just want as much piece of mind that the card is not faulty and is only behaving the way it is intended.

Thanks guys,
Bones




*Edit- Changed subject description.

[mccoy178]

Tell the computer guy that it has to be attached to the mobo.

[danny_galaga]

yeah, id go with mccoys suggestion!

[Barkuti]

By default, an ArcadeVGA only outputs CGA signals (~15.7 KHz Hsync rate), so a computer monitor won't work straight away (30+ KHz Hsync signal required).

The card is designed to be plugged on a SCART TV, an arcade monitor, or some other kind of RGB monitor compatible with CGA resolution 0.7 Vpp video.

The AVGA's "Trisync" patch frees up VGA+ modes so you can use a 30+ KHz non-interlaced display. It is also said that once you have enabled this, if you reinstall the AVGA driver you will be back to your previous state (all modes timed at ~15.7 KHz), but the thing will resort to 31+ KHz Hsync modes for VGA+ if connected to a DDC enabled suitable display (a PC monitor).
With this trick you can still use your CGA display with full safety, and be able to show the windows desktop on a PC monitor.


Cheers

[Jess--]

He will not get a picture on a standard PC monitor using an arcadevga card.

arcadevga outputs signals at 15khz which is outside the range supported by 99.9% of computer monitors

the simplest way of getting it set up is to drop in a generic video card while installing the operating system / sound cards etc, then once the computer is up and running replace it with the arcadevga and connect it to the arcade monitor.

then all that is left to do is install the drivers for the arcadevga (which can be done easily)

one word of warning..... do not use any other type of ATI card as the generic card while setting it up, if you do you will run into problems installing the drivers for the arcadevga.

EDIT: I am too slow, Barkuti came up with another way around it for you.

[Bones]

Thanks heaps guys.

This pretty much confirmed what I also thought but I didn't trust myself because panic mode had set in....

[danny_galaga]

does the arcade vga card run regular tvs too? im just wondering what the cheapest way to run a tv with a computer is (obviously one that doesnt have s-video whatits and stuff)

[Bones]

does the arcade vga card run regular tvs too? im just wondering what the cheapest way to run a tv with a computer is (obviously one that doesnt have s-video whatits and stuff)

Damn noobs.

[danny_galaga]

does the arcade vga card run regular tvs too? im just wondering what the cheapest way to run a tv with a computer is (obviously one that doesnt have s-video whatits and stuff)

Damn noobs.

hehe. well, you can see what i can acheive. but do you think i can find out how i should run a tv off a pc?

[koolmoecraig]

Almost 3000 posts Bones and you couldn't figure that out? Jeeesh.

[Minwah]

Almost 3000 posts Bones and you couldn't figure that out? Jeeesh.

They're all in 'everything else' tho

[Bones]

Almost 3000 posts Bones and you couldn't figure that out? Jeeesh.

They're all in 'everything else' tho

You can't see, but I am mooning you two freaks right now with all the aggression I can muster. 


And all is cool. Picked up the new PC today and after some initial problems, I got the card to talk to the monitor.

[srabelpawz]

  what did it say to the monitor?j/k stupid pun , i know

  i don't know shite about pc resolutions. my arcadevga only displays in the middle of the screen and is kinda blurry. i tried adjusting the controls on the monitor but it is obviously the res. what resolution is should i run(or what is the average res people run)?

[Harry Potter]

  what did it say to the monitor?j/k stupid pun , i know

  i don't know shite about pc resolutions. my arcadevga only displays in the middle of the screen and is kinda blurry. i tried adjusting the controls on the monitor but it is obviously the res. what resolution is should i run(or what is the average res people run)?

Have you tried fiddling around with the focus knob?

[srabelpawz]

[Harry Potter]

  i don't see a focus buuton on my monitor.

It'll be on the back of the monitor, on the chassis. There will be two knobs, one above the other near the big cord that goes to the picture tube.

Example:

[srabelpawz]

  i'll have to check but i don't remeber seeing those ones. i only see the ones on the remote board and the chasis. thanks for the info