So thats what a crack house looks like

[AtomSmasher]

I should start by explaining that I'm a real estate apprasier, which means I go to peoples houses and figure out how much they're worth.  Yesterday I had an appointment in a pretty crappy neighborhood (the last house I appraised near there the owner of the house was telling me how they found a dead body in the alley behind their house earlier that week) and the real estate agents listing on the house said it was a "major fixer upper" so I knew things would be bad.  I find the street the house is on and am reading the numbers on the houses as I go down it,  I see number 11775 (I'm looking for 11809), after that theres 2 more houses without numbers, then the street dead ends into a freeway.  I figure it has to be one of those two houses, probably the house on the corner.  Now this house was the crappiest house I've ever seen (reminded me of the Munsters house, but with huge piles of junk on the lawn and a car on blocks in the driveway) and I figure it matches the description of  "major fixer upper" so I go and knock on the door.  A guy obviously on drugs answers the door and I ask if this is house "11809."  He says"Ya I think so, the owners over there go talk to him."  I step inside and there are people passed out everywhere, probably 8-10 people in the living room alone, I walk over to the owner, who looks just as stoned as the first guy except hes also overweight and wearing a wife beater tank top, and again ask "Is this house number 11809."  He says it is and asks why I'm here.  I say I was hired to appraise this house and he asks "who hired you?"  Obviously he had no idea what I was talking about so I say "You are selling your house right?"  He says "No".  So I once again ask "Is this house number 11809?"  He responses "809?  no this is 789"   I apologize for the trouble and get the hell out of there.  I head back to my car and double check the maps to make sure I didn't miss something.  Apparently the street that runs parallel to that street has the same name and the numbers continue over there, I've never seen anything like it.  At least now I have another story to tell.

I haven't decided if this house was stranger then the bodybuilder/obsessed Cher fan house I appraised a while back, but its definately up there.  At least my job lets me meet unusual people

[Crazy Cooter]

Replace the dead guy with a passed-out girl and it sounds like a college house.  heheh.

[RayB]

So are you going to report them?

[Stingray]

If that house were only in Las Vegas you could just appraise it at $1.2 million and call it a day.

-S

[ChadTower]

I worked the closing shift, alone, at a Subway when I was 17.  Across the street and down about 4 houses was a major crackhouse.  I had to deal with total crackheads all the time.  It was pretty effed up.  Luckily, for some reason, the guys running the place had a strong "don't mess with the locals" edict so the crackheads would keep to themselves.  It was like Night of the Living Dead around there some nights, though, and it was common to get a phone call from my boss saying someone had kicked in the front door after I left and stolen the $7 I left in the register.

[Zakk]

I used to 'flip' properties before I started selling them.

[AC.]

Geeze people can be freakin disgusting.
AtomSmasher: what time of day was it? What age group of people?

Around here, and elsewhere I'm sure, Meth is the new epidemic. Most methheads never get off of it.  Its like a voluntary plague.

[AtomSmasher]

Geeze people can be freakin disgusting.
AtomSmasher: what time of day was it? What age group of people?

Around here, and elsewhere I'm sure, Meth is the new epidemic. Most methheads never get off of it.

[KenToad]

Replace the dead guy with a passed-out girl and it sounds like a college house.  heheh.

No kidding, I live in a college town.  A lot of the college rentals would fit the above descriptions, except we have mainly cokehouses. 

Witness the spectacle of the coked-out fratdaddy with the endless sniffles.

Rich person's drug vs. poor person's drug, I guess.

Cheers,
KenToad

[ChadTower]

You would not find a passed out girl behind a frat house.

She would not have lasted that drunk in a frat.

[KenToad]

You would not find a passed out girl behind a frat house.

She would not have lasted that drunk in a frat.

Right, my Sociology 101 professor announced to our class of 100 students or so that the number one place where rapes happen on campus is in frat houses involving underage freshmen.  I think a lot of the women students were shocked to hear him unequivocally advise them never to go to frat house parties. 

For me, I hate keg heirarchies.  "House rules" or whatever they say while jumping.  Just get in line is what I say. 

Of course, I try to avoid parties where the keg is the sole reason for life and the place empties just after the keg is killed. 

The passed out woman would have been just fine behind most regular-old college rentals.

Cheers,
KenToad

[ChadTower]

Erm, simplify that.

Avoid all pure sausage fests and you will never hit a frat party.

[KenToad]

Erm, simplify that.

Avoid all pure sausage fests and you will never hit a frat party.

Around here, a lot of beer equals a lot of young women, among other things.  Frat guys and their parties do fine. 

Cheers,
KenToad

[ChadTower]

Someone corroborate that.  A lifetime of experience says otherwise.

[KenToad]

Someone corroborate that.  A lifetime of experience says otherwise.

I thought you lived on the east coast.

Cheers,
KenToad

[Stingray]

Someone corroborate that.  A lifetime of experience says otherwise.

Back when I was young and single I lived in a multi-roomate situation for quite a while. Every weekend there was a huge party going on. Always lots of booze, and always lots of chicks.

-S

[ChadTower]

I thought you lived on the east coast.

I do, but to get the chicks to come, we always had to have more expensive stuff around.  Beer was never enough, it had to be mixed drinks and $25 bottles of stuff they wouldn't buy themselves.

[KenToad]

Yeah, it's somewhat location specific, since there needs to be a significant population of underage women ... or people who just need free beer and don't care who they drink it with. 

Athens is a pretty one-track town, however--not that I'm complaining.  From http://www.associatedcontent.com:

Your Guide to the Nightlife in Athens, Ohio
Nestled in the Heart of Appalachia is a Guaranteed Good Time
Content Clout: 4.2 out of 5
Published Sep 20, 2005 by Annie McCormick CLOUT INDEX
        
The annual Halloween party in Athens, Ohio is the 3rd largest block party in the nation behind New Year's Eve in Times Square and Mardi Gras.
Takeaways

[ChadTower]

Bah, Ohio isn't East Coast... when I say East Coast, I mean when I was in HS I could walk to the ocean.  Tourists would come up and say what's that lake and I'd be like that's the Atlantic you dillhole.

I live probably a 35 minute drive from the ocean now.  Kind of sad.

[KenToad]

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that Ohio is East Coast.   I just wanted to point out that by "around here" I meant that this little town is somewhat rare as a partyville and for housing virtually unlimited scores of young, beautiful women.  Beauty is all most of those women have.  I'm settled in a relationship, though, so beauty is all I need as a spectator of the ... throng.

Of all the weirdness in Athens, Playboy has even gotten in on the bandwagon of this town as party school.  Here's the article from the local newspaper, in case you're bored at work.  Unfortunately, I have no pics to accompany, but I guess they will be seen in time.

Some 100 female OU students say OK to Playboy
2005-10-27
By Bridget Whelan
Athens NEWS Campus Reporter

College-aged men weren't the only ones drooling over Playboy this week. About 100 female Ohio University students attended interviews and photo sessions Tuesday and Wednesday to be considered for Playboy's "top 10 party school" pictorial feature, due out in the May issue.

Earlier this week, the university released a statement encouraging students "to be thoughtful and carefully consider the possible long-term ramifications of the decisions they make."

Playboy, however, maintains that the women they photograph are mature enough to make their own decisions.

"The university really has their own point of view," noted Cynthia Kaye, a former Playboy model and current photographer who's in charge of hair, makeup and wardrobe for the "party girl" pictorial. "They're always going to say what they want to say, and they are always going to want to protect the girls that go to their school, which is naturally what they should do.

"However," Kaye added, "the girls have to be 18, and they can make their own decisions. They're big girls. They can make up their own mind if they want to be in Playboy. When people come to Playboy, it's because they want to be here."

Head photographer George Georgiou agreed. "There isn't a school in the country that's going to say, 'Oh, we're glad Playboy's here,'" he said. He added that the party-school reputation is the reason the magazine came to Athens, not the other way around.

"I'm sure (OU is) a very good institution, but unfortunately it carries a party-school label," said Georgiou. "I didn't make that. Playboy didn't make that. That's just a fact."

He said that he also disagrees with an OU spokesman's assertion that the magazine had "a virtual absence of quantifiable measures" in determining their party-school rankings.

"We're talking about party schools. You want to do this by a scientific process? Just show up downtown on a Saturday night. It's like saying people don't go to Vegas to gamble," Georgiou said.

Georgiou explained that Playboy composed its list of party schools based on a number of factors, including the list released earlier this year by the Princeton Review. "We keyed off that a little bit, and then we go with what we know and what we hear," he said.

Playboy also included the University of Wisconsin, McGill University in Montreal, the University of Georgia, the University of California at, Santa Barbara, Indiana University, Arizona State University, the University of Tennessee, Florida State University, and San Diego State University in its party-school rankings.

THE COLLEGE PICTORIAL DOES present challenges to photographers, however. The most difficult is that the majority of the girls who attend the preliminary sessions lack any modeling experience, especially posing nude.

"It's really up to me to be able to make that girl feel as comfortable as possible," said Georgiou. "Now, what I have going in my favor is that 100 percent of the women we work with want to be there. It's not like I have to wrestle their clothes off. There are certain ways that I need to behave to make a girl feel comfortable... I just try to put them at ease as best I can."

Senior psychology student Sarina Rubin said it was Playboy's reputation that made her want to try nude modeling. Rubin showed up for an appointment Tuesday afternoon in a room at a local motel.

"I wouldn't just do this for any magazine. It's not like I just want to be naked in a magazine," she said. "But it's Playboy, and Playboy does everything very tastefully, yet still sexy. I don't see it in a trashy way or raunchy at all. I think it would be an honor to be associated with Playboy."

Junior Amy Hirschbach of Dayton, who is majoring in fine arts and minoring in philosophy, echoed this idea. "I used to steal my dad's Playboy when I was little and look at it with my older cousin," recalled Hirschbach. She said that the girls in Playboy are beautiful and that she always liked looking at the pictures.

Rubin, who hopes to open her own counseling practice, added that she isn't worried that posing in Playboy might affect her future. "Well, I'm not going into government, so I don't have to worry about it being dug up," she said. "I highly doubt with what I want to do, it will be a major issue. And by the time I do what I want to do, this will have died down."

For women in college, another significant challenge to posing nude is the reaction of parents. Rubin said her mother lives in Costa Rica and will probably never even see the magazine, though she does plan to tell her about it. Her father is another story.

"My dad is not going to be happy about it; I mean, he's my dad," she said. "But he's not going to flip out."

Georgiou and Kaye both stressed that they encourage all of their models to discuss the issue with their parents and don't advocate going against their parents' wishes.

While some say that the women are objectifying themselves by being in the magazine, Hirschbach said that she does not think this is true because the women are volunteering to be photographed.

"I'm more excited than anything else," Hirschbach said about being photographed. She does not worry about what people will think if she is chosen for the magazine, and she said her mom is supportive.

"She said go for it," Hirschbach said. She added that she has not told her dad yet.

"I don't think that he has a subscription any longer," she said, adding that if he does she would have to warn him if she makes it into the magazine.

Her friends, Hirschbach said, told her she was "ballsy" for trying out for Playboy, and they wished her luck.

Ashley Harrington, a sophomore from Strongsville who is undecided on her major, said she decided to try out for Playboy with some of her friends.

"We thought it would be something fun to do," Harrington said. She was excited about trying out, but got nervous when she arrived at the casting call session.

"My hands are all shaking," Harrington said. She said it would be great to be pictured in a national magazine like Playboy, but she would worry about what her family and friends would think if she makes it in.

Lindsey Gronauer, a sophomore from Bath who is studying psychology, said she also decided to try out for the magazine with some of her friends.

Gronauer said she had done some modeling previously, so she was not too nervous about trying out for Playboy. Getting pictured in the magazine would be nice, she said, adding that she would not worry about what her family and friends would think.

Asked if it would bother her to be recognized on campus as the student who was in Playboy, Gronauer said, "I think that would be a good thing."

C.J. (who asked that her last name not be used in the newspaper because she does not want her grandmother who lives in another town to see the story on the Internet), a sophomore from Athens who is studying English, was excited about trying out for Playboy.

C.J. said it was a fun way to start the weekend early, on Wednesday, especially heading into the Halloween weekend. She's not worried what people in Athens who know her might think about her trying out for Playboy, and thinks it would be great if she got into the magazine. She has modeled previously in New York City, and was not nervous about trying out for Playboy. Getting into the magazine would just help her modeling career, she said.

C.J. had already posed for some test photos and admitted it was a little nerve-wracking posing for the Playboy-style photos, but the photographer was nice, and all of the people with the magazine made her feel comfortable.

OU is a natural choice for Playboy, CJ said, and she's glad the magazine named the university one of the Top 10 Party Schools and included it in the upcoming issue.

"Athens is a party school," C.J. noted. The students really do party a lot, and this weekend is the biggest party of the year, she said. C.J. added that she has been asking the Playboy employees to visit the uptown street party on Saturday so they can see why OU has been named a top party school.

THE MAGAZINE WILL BEGIN shooting at several undisclosed locations in Athens later this week, after the interview processes are done and potential models have been chosen, but Kaye and Georgiou said they would not be around for the Halloween celebration. Kaye said they will primarily shoot group shots, so as to include as many girls as possible.

"We want to give as many people an opportunity to participate as possible," she said. She added that the shooting locations often help them choose the models they may want to use.

"We try to line up their looks with where we might want to shoot," Kaye said. "We just want a nice, all-American-looking college girl with a nice smile, who's energetic and wants to participate." -- Nick Claussen contributed to this story

Cheers,
KenToad

*Edit*  Sorry about the hijack, this should be in it's own thread. 

[Stingray]

*Edit*  Sorry about the hijack, this should be in it's own thread. 

I think we can make room for naked college girls in pretty much any thread.

-S

[missioncontrol]

all threads should involve naked college girls

[KenToad]

How about a chick dressed up like bacon frying (I think) on the sidewalk?

[Stingray]

That's hot.

-S

[mr.Curmudgeon]

I worked the closing shift, alone, at a Subway when I was 17.

Weird. I did too. Worked in a slum area of suburban Detroit. I was held up at gun point (with a semi-automatic machine gun / Micro Uzi)...had my life threatened for $40.

I said to the guy in my most nonchalant (non-threatening) voice, "I'm just a sandwich artist, man, take the money."

He told me to get in the back room, as he stayed on the costumer side of the counter. As I walked behind the wall, I grabbed one of our big, razor-sharp, cutting knives and hid behind the door to the eating area and waited for him to come through. He never did.

I worked there for another 8 months or so, but got tired of the riff-raff and split. Not before making myself a 6-ft party sub and taking it home as, ya' know, a fringe benefit.


mrC

[ChadTower]

The only time we got robbed while I was there it was a crackhead with a BBQ fork.  I punched him in the head, which clearly he hadn't planned for, and I hit the alarm button.  I was still slapping him when the cops showed up.

Not quite the same as an automatic weapon.

The cops thought it was pretty damn funny, though.

[Stingray]

Got robbed when I worked at a Wendy's. Sawed-off shotgun. Pretty scary. The cops showed up and shot him through the window. That cop was my new best friend at that moment.

-S

[GGKoul]

Never been held up at gun point.  But one time I was in a highway service station convenience store.  And a guy walked into the store with a shotgun.  There I was inside the store thinking the guy was about to rob the store....

But the guy was actually coming in to the store to start his shift and didn't want to leave his gun in his truck.  Plus he wanted the add security just in case...

[Crazy Cooter]

I had a group of guys with guns aimed at me.   

Easy enough to sort out, but don't try to explain anything until they put their guns away.  My car was hit in a parking lot and I called the cops...  It turned out some guy with the same name as me was wanted for murder and my ID brought up the info like it was me.  For a slit-second I had the "fight or flight" response and almost took off running.  It probably wouldn't have been funny under that scenario... unless I got shot.  Then it would have been really funny.

We always had girls sleeping over in college.  They usually brought their own beer/drinks.  One day my brother had to throw two girls out of the back of his pickup so he could go to work.  Good times.  The hardest part of college isn't the work, it's doing the work.  There are a lot of distractions when you have easy access to beers, bars, and babes.

[ChadTower]

See, that was the main problem with being in Computer Science.   

[Crazy Cooter]

LOL.  Engineering wasn't much better.  That's why we hung out by the Journalism building.

[AC.]

I worked the closing shift, alone, at a Subway when I was 17.

I said to the guy in my most nonchalant (non-threatening) voice, "I'm just a sandwich artist, man, take the money."

mrC

WOW! You had enough wits left to say "sandwich artist".  That Subway training must be intense!

[ChadTower]

They used to scream it at you in German until all you would blurt out under stress was your Employee ID and your Sandwich Artist Level.

[AC.]

ICH BIN SANDWICH ARTIST EBEN ZWEI!

[ChadTower]

Yeah, like that.  And there was a midget off to the side holding posterboard with subtitles.