Slowly losing our freedom and privacy too??

[fastredpacman]

Was just reading this:

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=990

What do you gyus think?

[patrickl]

ISP's in the Netherlands have been forced to comply with this for years. To me it's the same as telephone opererators being forced to allow the police access. They are only allowed to eavesdrop on people who are suspected of something (or connected to someone who is)

[Crazy Cooter]

Intelligence agencies already have full access to ISPs in those countries participating in the Echelon electronic spying network (Australia, Canada, the UK and the USA), and these latest measures are intended to extend similar powers to a wide range of other agencies.
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the Federal Communications Commission issued a final Order effective Monday November 14th compelling all broadband Internet service providers and many Voice over Internet Protocol, or VoIP, companies to include backdoors allowing police and many other enforcement agencies to directly eavesdrop on their customers by April 2007.

They already have access.  Due to the "Patriot Act", in the US you don't have to be suspected of anything other than curiosity.

FYI:  Computers have a unique id that can be saved with files.  It's a "watermark" that shows what computer created the file.  The sad part about this is that if I knew I was going to do something illegal, the solution is easy:

Use a notebook paid for with cash and connect over someone elses unprotected wireless line.  Unless they roll up on you while you're doing it, you're 100% safe.  Plus you just left digital fingerprints of someone else that will throw the Feds off your track.

[AC.]

YES BUT!!.........How do I get the feds off my track NOW once they have already . . . .
--[connection terminated]--

[DrewKaree]

What are they "pressurizing" them with?  I've got some gas I'd like to donate to the cause if they're running low.

[fastredpacman]

Am I the only one that thinks this could potentially get all our community in trouble with the issue of roms? I mean lets be realistic who really owns the boards to every game they have in their cab?

[Crazy Cooter]

I think the biggest problem is what's going to happen when someone gets brought in and they say that someone else must have hijacked their wireless connection.

Then it becomes guilty until proven innocent.  Assuming you know how to prove someone used your wireless connection  .

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It's too bad the people making laws don't understand what the hell they're talking about.

[SirPoonga]

I think the biggest problem is what's going to happen when someone gets brought in and they say that someone else must have hijacked their wireless connection.

Then it becomes guilty until proven innocent.  Assuming you know how to prove someone used your wireless connection  .

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It's too bad the people making laws don't understand what the hell they're talking about.

Easy, if the computers have a unique id tell them to find your computer with that id.

That aside, it's the fact that they can just monitor fo no reason.  You can't enter someone's home for no reason.  Well, now they can.

[Crazy Cooter]

You must have thrown away the computer... we have records that show you did it. 

[fredster]

Anybody here lost any freedoms?  Cops bust in for no reason?  Your computer files, has someone traced them back and asked you questions about them?

If you want to find out more about yourself, go to intellus.com and pay the $50 to find out all about yourself.

And it's not the government getting you there.  They could save big $$ if they just use a service like that.