I'm going to be Curmudgeonly

[ChadTower]

WTF is Bush?  He's sure not a Liberal, but he's obviously no Conservative either... he'll just eff over anyone any chance he gets.

From CNN:

The president's tax-reform advisory panel today submitted two final proposals to the Treasury Department, both of which offer significant changes to the tax breaks people have come to expect. The panel proposed converting the home mortgage interest deduction into a credit equal to 15 percent of mortgage interest paid.

I mean, seriously... he's supposed to be for tax breaks, yes?  Tax breaks rather than eliminating one of the most basic deductions that regular families come to heavily rely on?

[Stingray]

I paid my house off this year. Good timing, eh?

-S

[ChadTower]

If I run the numbers, this results in my paying nearly $2000 more in taxes than I do now.

[Stingray]

OUCH!

-S

[ChadTower]

Yep, my home value is just above the cap and I'm supposedly in that "they can most afford it" middle class bracket right below the wealthy that don't get hit and the poor who can't afford it.  So I get slammed hardest whenever things like this happen.

Can most afford it ---my bottom---, someone tell that to the oil company that wants $450 to fill my heating oil tank this month.

[Stingray]

Can most afford it ---my bottom---, someone tell that to the oil company that wants $450 to fill my heating oil tank this month.

That reminds me, I need to have my propane tank filled. Better brace the checkbook.

-S

[ChadTower]

I may as well just get a job working for Exxon and then decline my paycheck.  They're on the receiving end of everyone's money most of the time anyway.

[Bones]

Yep, my home value is just above the cap and I'm supposedly in that "they can most afford it" middle class bracket right below the wealthy that don't get hit and the poor who can't afford it. So I get slammed hardest whenever things like this happen.

It doesn't matter what country you are from or who governs it, middle class always get slammed because there is a more of them.

[Sephroth57]

by the time i can buy a house everything is gonna be ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- even more, at least youre that far already

[ChadTower]

Being this far is only good if you can KEEP the house.

Remember, you can have 75% of your house paid off and still lose it all just like that if you miss three payments.

[Bones]

What are home loan rates in the states?

[ChadTower]

Mine is like 5.875 I think, but the current rates are higher than that.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

WTF is Bush?  He's sure not a Liberal, but he's obviously no Conservative either... he'll just eff over anyone any chance he gets.

He's a Corporatist and an elitist. Think of who has gained the most from Bush's tenure in office:

Big Business and Old Money.

He bought off a bunch of middle-class people with a $300+ check, from their tax return, while giant conglomerates racked in BILLIONS with no-bids contracts for his nation-building campaign, deregulation, and tax cuts for the wealthy. Just so C.E.O's could shore us their personal legacies by squirreling it away in off-shore accounts. That money will NEVER find it's way back into our economy.

Then, instead of turning is knife on pork-barrel spending, he turned it on the American people, via the attempt to privatize Social Security, etc.


mrC

[grueinthebox]

by the time i can buy a house everything is gonna be ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- even more, at least youre that far already

I feel your pain...  I was planning on buying a house next summer, but now I'm having to reconsider based on the skyrocketing cost of electricity around here.  I'm not sure I'll be able to fit the electric bill into my budget.

[Zero_Hour]

Current avg. rate for a 30 year fixed rate, no upfront points in the U.S. is 6.5%, according to reuters.

[shmokes]

If I run the numbers, this results in my paying nearly $2000 more in taxes than I do now.

If I were you I would NOT run the numbers.

[Ed_McCarron]

I mean, seriously... he's supposed to be for tax breaks, yes? Tax breaks rather than eliminating one of the most basic deductions that regular families come to heavily rely on?

Thats OK, they just send you one of these...



This ones gonna hurt if it doesn't get shot down.

[ClubNinja]

Oh joy.  Oh effin' joy.

[grueinthebox]

Almost forgot to add:

"George Bush doesn't care about home owning people!"

[ClubNinja]

Almost forgot to add:

"George Bush doesn't care about home owning people!"

Imagine being a black home owning person right now - Bush double doesn't care about you.

Of course, he probably also doesn't believe that you exist.

[MameJunkie]

BUSHit

[Dartful Dodger]

It doesn't get signed until tomorrow.  That gives you a day to do something about it. 

Instead of being a Curmudgeonly and posting a b!tch b!tch b!tch post, you should post numbers for us to call to stop it.

[whammoed]

Sounds like that would actually benefit me right now.  I barely made over the standard deduction last year itemizing everything including the mortgage interest.  I would probably get more back.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

you should post numbers for us to call to stop it.

Typical DD, always looking for someone else to do the work for him. You're such an entitlement-queen. Activism sure is "hard work", DD, but you wouldn't know that now would you.



mrC

[ChadTower]

See, I would, but if you follow the story, it says that these are things that Bush's tax reform committee are going to recommend be proposed.

You want me to post phone numbers on how to protest a recommended proposal?

Do you also want me to get a mailing address to which we can register complaints about something someone may say should happen at some point?

[grueinthebox]

Do you also want me to get a mailing address to which we can register complaints about something someone may say should happen at some point?

If that something puts a $2k hit on the pocketbook, absolutely!

...Not that they care what we have to say anyway... 

[Dartful Dodger]

They don't care about this new tax proposal.  Either way they're still getting paid.  They do care if voters are interfering with their cushy jobs by filling their voice mail and causing their secretary to sit at her desk all day taking names and address instead of picking up lunch and coffee.

[Stingray]

Countdown for that one being sent to hell. 5... 4... 3...

-S

[ChadTower]

I figured, what the hell, let's liven it up a bit.

[MameJunkie]

Chad....OUCH

[ChadTower]

It's the best concise summary of Bush's two terms in office that I can find.

[Stingray]

It's the best concise summary of Bush's two terms in office that I can find.

HA!

-S

[Dartful Dodger]

Did it get signed? Or were you really being  Curmudgeonly and posted before knowing all the facts and now hoping this thread gets banned before we can laugh at you?

[abrannan]

From what I understand of this plan (Which I've seen dubbed as the "snowball's chance in hell" plan) there are a lot of other differences.  For one, it gets rid of the Alternative Minimum Tax.  It also drops the vast majority of Americans into a 15% tax bracket (Which for most of us is a big break).  Also included in the plan are 401(k) style savings plans for "life events", new home purchases, Education, etc.

But you go ahead and focus on the narrow picture...

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Now I know what Chad meant when he said he was a kicker.

Did it get signed?

Jesus. Can't you're lazy-ass be inspired enough to do a 2 sec. search on Google to find out for yourself? Damn.

I dig how you can't help but make smarmy comments about me, all the while exposing yourself as the lazy, know-nothing ignoramus that we all know and love. Stop dragging your knuckles and visit 'GOOGLE.COM'...and leave me out of your fetid posts.



mrC

[Santoro]

What's with the weird line on his stomach?

[mr.Curmudgeon]

What's with the weird line on his stomach?

I didn't watch the clip long enough, nor close enough to notice.   Sicko.   

[Santoro]

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[MameJunkie]

What's with the weird line on his stomach?

Damnit...made me look a second time 

[Stingray]

Not going back for a closer look.

I guess all of the mods took the day off today. Think how the cheesecake thread could have flourished. But no, all we get is an unending loop of a guy taking it in the speedbags. Tragic.

-S