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Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« on: August 31, 2005, 02:54:55 pm »
time is almost upon me to buy monitor for my cab.

i read both retroblast for both monitor but here on fourm i heard different.

so how good is Betson? do they still have problem today?

what problem do each of monitor have?
 
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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2005, 04:29:51 pm »
I have the betson & i love it the picture is great & it supports 800x600 well gard does not thats a huge difference, i have spoke to kevin also he much prefers the betson
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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2005, 06:35:55 pm »
but i read some of the thread here saying that some game may be off by like 5 degree and the routine (sp?) option doesn't work. is that such a big deal?

edit: also how is the text on windows and mamewah? could you easily read the texts? i also read that it was burly on some people's cab.
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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2005, 07:01:24 pm »
I have a betson 27".  The text is quite clear in the center but gets worse at the edges.  This is for small text like what is below a windows shortcut.  Arcade games look fantastic on the monitor though.  I also tried some genesis emulated games and they looked good too. 

Everything looks great but I can notice the quality at the edges is a little degraded.  It is hard to tell when you are playing, even if you look for it, though.
I have not noticed any rotation problems on mine, but let me double check on that.

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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2005, 07:20:20 pm »
the text is clear on a arcade monitor, but its expected to be blurry to a point, the betson is for games not windows, also i have no rotation problems at all, if your concerned about blurry text its best to stay with a computer monitor.
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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2005, 08:13:48 pm »
well i know i can't do computer monitor because i want 27" screen. but the text i'm talking about like in mamewah list of games.
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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2005, 09:33:53 pm »
it supports 800x600 well gard does not thats a huge difference
This is totally incorrect. D9200 most definitely supports 800x600 resolutions with no problems.

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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2005, 10:54:05 am »
This is totally wrong, i sell both of the betson & wells garder, the d9200 only officially supports 640 x 480, if you run it above that you are voiding your warranty...the happ techs have told me if you run it at 800 x600 the life will be much shorter
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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2005, 10:55:38 am »
Also if you read the review of the D9200 at retroblast.com it states the same thing
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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2005, 11:04:13 am »
This is totally wrong, i sell both of the betson & wells garder, the d9200 only officially supports 640 x 480, if you run it above that you are voiding your warranty...the happ techs have told me if you run it at 800 x600 the life will be much shorter
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Thats not what the Wells Gardner techs say though.  They say the current d9200 will do 800*600 fine, they just haven't updated their specs.

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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2005, 11:11:42 am »
Below is a quote take from kevins site at retroblast.com
"PC Monitor Performance

The D9200 does a good imitation of a PC monitor, even though its roots are firmly planted on the arcade-side of the display equation. It is a multisync-capable monitor, or it can be set to run exclusively as a CGA or EGA monitor. (Since it is a PC monitor, it's even compatible with the ACT Labs light gun!)

As a PC monitor, the picture quality is very good at 640x480. It's every bit as sharp and vibrant as a regular PC monitor (only at 27" the picture is huge!). At 800x600 the image is not as sharp, but considering it's not an officially supported resolution, that's to be expected."
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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2005, 11:19:46 am »
And Kevin's review was on a much older revision of the monitor than is produced now.
The current ones support 800x600 at 60hz just fine. The originals only did 800x600 at 56hz.

Kevin's review is over 2 years old now.

Call wg's tech support and ask them the monitors specs.

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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2005, 11:24:45 am »
Below is a quote take from kevins site at retroblast.com
"PC Monitor Performance

The D9200 does a good imitation of a PC monitor, even though its roots are firmly planted on the arcade-side of the display equation. It is a multisync-capable monitor, or it can be set to run exclusively as a CGA or EGA monitor. (Since it is a PC monitor, it's even compatible with the ACT Labs light gun!)

As a PC monitor, the picture quality is very good at 640x480. It's every bit as sharp and vibrant as a regular PC monitor (only at 27" the picture is huge!). At 800x600 the image is not as sharp, but considering it's not an officially supported resolution, that's to be expected."

I love Kevins site as much as anybody but its far from an official source for Wells Gardner information.

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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2005, 12:03:57 pm »
I have only had my 9200 for about a month, but it works fine at 800x600@60hz for windows and the front ends I run using the ArcadeVGA.  I did run the TRISYNC utility for the ArcadeVGA and that cleaned up the 640x480 and 800x600 modes.  Not as crisp as a computer monitor, but the text isn't hard to read.  Definitely good enough to use as the front end in my cabinet also.  WG says the 800x600@60hz mode works fine on the new 9200s and doesn't shorten the life.

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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2005, 01:49:44 pm »
mmmm maybe i will go with betson...

model#44-4070-RT is that right?
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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2005, 08:03:59 pm »
I have only had my 9200 for about a month, but it works fine at 800x600@60hz for windows and the front ends I run using the ArcadeVGA.  I did run the TRISYNC utility for the ArcadeVGA and that cleaned up the 640x480 and 800x600 modes.  Not as crisp as a computer monitor, but the text isn't hard to read.  Definitely good enough to use as the front end in my cabinet also.  WG says the 800x600@60hz mode works fine on the new 9200s and doesn't shorten the life.


May I just ask what revision of the monitor supports 800x600 at 60hz?

I have a revision D... Just making sure for myself, here.... :)

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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2005, 11:22:44 pm »
May I just ask what revision of the monitor supports 800x600 at 60hz?

Mine says "Rev: D" on it.

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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2005, 07:07:45 pm »
mmmm maybe i will go with betson...

model#44-4070-RT is that right?

That is the version I have..  44-4070-RT.    It was $399 + tax when I bought it.

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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2005, 07:18:20 pm »
all right, ok
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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2005, 07:29:16 pm »
all right, ok

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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2005, 12:05:44 pm »
Hey, a newbie here needs some help!
Is there anyone from Europe who managed to get that Betson 44-4070-RT / Kortek KT-2914 screen?
If yes, where did you got it from? Is Kortek cheaper? Does Kortek ship from Europe or only from Korea?

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Re: Wells-Gardner D9200 V.S. Betson (not sure which model)
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2005, 01:44:50 pm »
grrrrr

today was to be my road trip to betson store in SF. but i called first and they said they don't have them in stock(44-4070-RT)! they said they would get more of them last friday but no they still don't have them! >:(

also they said the price is $469.95, rats! i was hoping it would be around say... 399
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