Author Topic: Project Death Star (Read 11062 times)

ChadTower · « **Reply #40 on:** August 22, 2005, 04:03:37 pm »

I disagree. Even using Svideo, games on a TV are not going to look like they do on a real arcade monitor.

the3eyedblindman · « **Reply #41 on:** August 22, 2005, 05:57:19 pm »

YOU ARE WRONG! When using S video on a 27 inch tv, and putting a happ bezel around it, no one would ever know it wasnt a real arcade monitor, thats what I use and it works great, I actually think it looks better than an arcade monitor sometimes, your statements are completely ridiculous, but they are your opinions, so im not going to argue. Putting a 19 inch monitor in an ultimate arcade 2 would be absolutely ridiculous. Please think before you post....by the way, your cabinet looks outstanding, just order yourself a happ bezel for about 11 bucks and your set!

dennis808 · « **Reply #42 on:** August 23, 2005, 05:59:23 am »

FWIW, I think a TV gets really close to the arcade feel, and is FAR less expensive than an arcade-monitor of the same size.
Since you've already spent a lot of money, I can understand you're opting for a TV.

BTW, does it have an RGB or Component input? If you use those, not even the experts will see it's a TV anymore.

ChadTower · « **Reply #43 on:** August 23, 2005, 08:47:24 am »

I've seen them done side by side. When done right, the difference is very noticeable.

TheVengeance · « **Reply #44 on:** August 23, 2005, 10:17:05 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 23, 2005, 08:47:24 am

I've seen them done side by side.

ChadTower · « **Reply #45 on:** August 23, 2005, 10:21:34 am »

For reasons I have stated over and over again on this forum, I do not have a MAME cabinet and I rarely use MAME. If you want to know the reasons, a quick search should find those threads. This is my current project.

I'm offering an opinion here to the guy. He's done a great job on the cabinet. I think he's doing himself a disservice settling for a TV.

Timoe · « **Reply #46 on:** August 23, 2005, 10:26:42 am »

Ok, well.... He's got a great TV for now and next year or in a month or two when he's got the $$$.$$ he can enjoy the building process again when he gets into Arcade Monitors.

My comp doesn't have an AGP slot so I simply wont be able to go Arcade monitor style for a while.

For now, thats a baaaahd assssked cab and I'm jealoous that I dont have one.

ChadTower · « **Reply #47 on:** August 23, 2005, 10:29:34 am »

Fair enough... funds are tough. Use the TV, then pick up a good used 25" monitor later on. Good plan.

dennis808 · « **Reply #48 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:13:36 am »

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I've seen them done side by side. When done right, the difference is very noticeable.

Have you seen a component (or RGB-SCART) equipped TV next to a medium resolution monitor?

I'm specificaly stating medium res 'cos it's not really fair to compare a TV to a WG9200, which is high res, and about 5 times more expensive...

ChadTower · « **Reply #49 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:27:17 am »

Most games are not medium res, so it wouldn't be a reasonable thing to do.

Are there any 15khz capable video cards with component or SCART outputs? I don't know of any.

The whole point of that complex a setup is to reproduce the games exactly as they were, monitor and resolution included.

dennis808 · « **Reply #50 on:** August 23, 2005, 02:53:17 pm »

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Are there any 15khz capable video cards with component or SCART outputs?

Yep, all Ati Radeons can put out 15Khz, all you need is the right software (powerstrip), and a cable as described here: http://ryoandr.free.fr/english.html

(you might wanna check this too: http://ryoandr.free.fr/emus-en.html

We're getting really offtopic here!

Anyway, building cabs is about having fun, and I think Elfman is gonna have a blast on his Death Star!

ChadTower · « **Reply #51 on:** August 23, 2005, 04:45:12 pm »

Right, but I haven't seen a Radeon with component or SCART out...

Quote from: dennis808 on August 23, 2005, 02:53:17 pm

Yep, all Ati Radeons can put out 15Khz, all you need is the right software (powerstrip), and a cable as described here: http://ryoandr.free.fr/english.html

Grasshopper · « **Reply #52 on:** August 23, 2005, 04:51:31 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 23, 2005, 04:45:12 pm

Right, but I haven't seen a Radeon with component or SCART out...

But they all have VGA out.

You have to make a custom VGA to SCART cable.

ChadTower · « **Reply #53 on:** August 23, 2005, 04:54:35 pm »

Ah, yes, right. Good call.

nolie · « **Reply #54 on:** August 24, 2005, 02:58:15 am »

Here's a good link to s-video vs. component out comparison:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=4531

Haven't started my project yet--still curious to know how much better Wells-Gardner 27" D9200 is stacked against for example a JVC AV-27530 27" TV. The JVC can be purchased for $200 or less and has component inputs. Hear a lot about how much better component is vs. s-video but I'm wondering if an arcade monitor is that much better than component TV. I'd like to hear from someone who has actually truly compared or checked into this for their own project and has real knowledge. Anyone?

Death Star graphics are superb by the way. Wondering about the CP though. Particularly, Lexan vs. a pour-on resin material where you torch out the bubbles. Can't remember what it's called but other projects have done the CP that way. Heard it's better because you don't have the Lexan edges to deal with. Death Star didn't have screws and that's good.

Overall, Death Star along with the Heavy Metal mame and the Zelda mame--top graphics I've seen thus far.

http://www.mameworld.net/massive/Cabinet/Zeldamame/Zelda.htm

http://www.mindspring.com/~chrisnewsome/index.html

ChadTower · « **Reply #55 on:** August 24, 2005, 09:02:07 am »

Quote from: nolie on August 24, 2005, 02:58:15 am

Haven't started my project yet--still curious to know how much better Wells-Gardner 27" D9200 is stacked against for example a JVC AV-27530 27" TV.

Timoe · « **Reply #56 on:** August 25, 2005, 12:19:35 am »

I think it also has to do with the resolution the monitor will display. An arcade monitor does not have as high a resolution as a Computer Monitor but I think they can produce a crisper picture than a non High Def TV.

ChadTower · « **Reply #57 on:** August 25, 2005, 08:15:42 am »

They're both 15khz... the crispness is the difference in signal type.

Elfman · « **Reply #58 on:** August 25, 2005, 11:34:25 am »

Quote from: nolie on August 24, 2005, 02:58:15 am

Overall, Death Star along with the Heavy Metal mame and the Zelda mame--top graphics I've seen thus far.

http://www.mameworld.net/massive/Cabinet/Zeldamame/Zelda.htm

http://www.mindspring.com/~chrisnewsome/index.html

Thanks for the compliment!

Since this is your first post, I will assume you haven't seen some of the other great works of art on this site. Personally, I feel my graphics are sub par at best but I am my own worst critic I suppose.

Thanks again!

ChadTower · « **Reply #59 on:** August 25, 2005, 01:34:53 pm »

I can't say I would ever place one of those cabs above one with totally original art. It's a lot easier to take someone else's concept and graphics and put it on a nice looking background than it is to make original art.

ViriiGuy · « **Reply #60 on:** August 29, 2005, 02:00:11 am »

Wow!!!!
I have never seen people be so biligerant about someones choice of monitor setup.

I am personally going with a TV when I do mine due to budget restraints. And from what I have seen a TV can gie almost as nice a picture as an arcade monitor.

Good job on the cab mate.

Elfman · « **Reply #61 on:** August 29, 2005, 01:25:50 pm »

Quote from: ViriiGuy on August 29, 2005, 02:00:11 am

Wow!!!!
I have never seen people be so biligerant about someones choice of monitor setup.

Yeah, I was a little surprised as well.


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