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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2005, 01:50:00 pm »
Just finished making it, I'll report later.

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2005, 01:55:12 pm »
when all else fails:

format c:

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2005, 02:19:07 pm »

also everytime i scan for virus etc it will be erased but upon a reboot the same virus/spyware will be there again many many times, i  have had the same number of problems after a reboot and it's obvious that it is the same exact named problem in the scan.


The other thing it tells me is if thing-one is wrong, and it's not a heat issue, why haven't you told us what virus/spyware is being repeatedly reported by your scans. 



Perhaps it's just me not being COMPLETELY elaborate, but like shmokes, I'm wondering why you didn't make with THAT info long ago....even before I asked

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2005, 02:21:39 pm »

when all else fails:

format c: find a box big enough to put everything inside it, and leave it by the curb for trash pickup


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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2005, 02:31:07 pm »

His problem is his firewall.  He has several issues:

1) he's using a software firewall
2) his firewall resides on the same box he's trying to protect
3) he's using a microsoft firewall

And a very probable issue:

1) his firewall is improperly configured.

Basically, he's out there butt naked on the internet and the spyware bots know he's there.  No amount of scanning or repair will do any good until he has a proper firewall in place.  I remember last year when I finally got broadband, I thought a firewall was foolish.  It took 5 minutes, I actually watched the stuff pop onto my machine, for the bots to find my machine and riddle it with spyware.  I would clean it and it would be back in an hour.

He needs to fix the root cause, then he can repair the damage.

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2005, 02:43:16 pm »

when all else fails:

format c: find a box big enough to put everything inside it, and leave it by the curb for trash pickup


yes that sounds much better

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2005, 03:59:06 pm »
Chad, i see what you're saying but the thing is after i reboot and get rid of the spyware it's gone and will not be there until i reboot. Something is hiding in the boot sequence that gets killed and reborn again, probably before i had my firewall in place.

Anyway it SEEMS that I'm not crashing anymore due to the fan i just installed but we will see.

Either way obviously the fan did not remove the spyware.

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2005, 04:05:06 pm »

You're not understanding.  You get rid of the spyware, then whatever bot got you last time, gets you again, puts it into your registry to be reborn upon reboot.  That's how it works.

The problem will never go away until you have a proper firewall.

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2005, 04:38:32 pm »
I just wanted to thank you guys who mentioned the overheating problem, the fan i installed worked great and i haven't had a crash since.

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2005, 05:12:18 pm »
Tommy,

Check this tread.  It looks like it will walk you through clearing Booked Space off your system

As far as the firewall goes, hardware is absolutely better, but at the very least go download a free copy of ZoneAlarm.  Software firewalls can still be pretty powerful.

At home I've got a Cisco PIX 501 between my network at the outside world.

But then I've got a wide-open 802.11g access point sitting on my network.  I should be ashamed of myself.  I had it locked down for a while cos of abuse, but I've replaced the access-point since then and haven't got around to locking it down.
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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2005, 05:22:56 pm »
Thanks shmokes, yikes thats alot of things to go through but the person in the thread had the same problem so i'll give it a go.

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2005, 05:37:37 pm »
It is a lot to go through.  But if it were me I'd either go through it or wipe my hard drive clean.  There's not a chance in hell I'd knowingly let spyware or adware sit on my system.  Causing system instability and using up precious CPU cycles is bad enough, but it's the principle of the thing that wouldn't let me rest until it was gone.

What I really recommend is a copy of Symantec/Norton Ghost.  Partition your hard drive and take regular snapshots of your system partition, saving the image to another disk/partition.  It takes a few minutes to make the image and it will clone your drive from that image in just a few minutes -- absolutely exactly the way it was the day it was imaged.  If you're the type to install a game and play it exclusively until you beat it and then uninstall it you can just install it, play it, beat it, then reimage your hard drive and it's like you never installed it.  That'll dramatically cut back on all the residue and leftovers in your registry and all over your hard drive from the programs you've installed over the months.

Ghost is seriously a great program.  I say, make an image once every couple weeks and always hang on to at least the last two images, so at any time you can take your computer back in time at least one-month.  And, of course, always make an image before doing anything that you know is particularly risky.
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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2005, 08:58:48 pm »
Format and reload.  Works every time.
I agree
Only until you're reinfected.  Good practive and avoiding certain software helps alot in avoiding infection.

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2005, 11:34:58 pm »
...so I will ask you... "Deal, or No Deal?"

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2005, 01:59:44 am »
Hijack this log.



Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 1:57:01 AM, on 8/8/2005
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\riai.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SOUNDMAN.EXE
C:\Program Files\BroadJump\Client Foundation\CFD.exe
C:\Program Files\BillP Studios\WinPatrol\winpatrol.exe
C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.40607\aspnet_admin.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\wanmpsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\Steam.exe
C:\Program Files\Support.com\bin\tgcmd.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Tommy\Desktop\Mame32.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Tommy\Desktop\mame 0.98\mame32p.exe
C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe
C:\DOCUME~1\Tommy\LOCALS~1\Temp\Rar$EX00.047\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Stationery\Blank.htm
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe /STARTUP
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [cfgmgr52] RunDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\cfgmgr52.dll,DllRun
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_EMC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMan] SOUNDMAN.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BJCFD] C:\Program Files\BroadJump\Client Foundation\CFD.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WinPatrol] C:\Program Files\BillP Studios\WinPatrol\winpatrol.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Zone Labs Client] C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe
O9 - Extra button: Real.com - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Shdocvw.dll
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O12 - Plugin for .WAV: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\PLUGINS\npqtplugin2.dll
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/wuweb_site.cab?1119745242093
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - https://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab
O20 - Winlogon Notify: App Paths - C:\WINDOWS\
O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Alert Manager Server (Avg7Alrt) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Update Service (Avg7UpdSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
O23 - Service: TrueVector Internet Monitor (vsmon) - Zone Labs, LLC - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon.exe
O23 - Service: WAN Miniport (ATW) Service (WANMiniportService) - America Online, Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\wanmpsvc.exe


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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2005, 08:05:12 am »
Ugh....don't post that here.  Post it at a forum with Hijack This masters.

And did you go through the processes from the link I gave you to another guy who had your same problem?
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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2005, 10:12:46 am »
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C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SOUNDMAN.EXE

C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe

C:\WINDOWS\wanmpsvc.exe


Those all look like candidates, especially given this:

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O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe /STARTUP

That /STARTUP runs the Grisoft exe avgcc.exe every time you reboot your machine.  If you can't ID Grisoft, we may have a winner.

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2005, 10:13:48 am »

Hrm, a google shows Grisoft as a free firewall/antivirus... so maybe not, but sure as hell never use a freeware security product.

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #59 on: August 08, 2005, 10:18:31 am »
Grisoft makes a free anti-virus program that's really effective. I think that's what he has....

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #60 on: August 08, 2005, 11:15:16 am »
Chad, never used AVG, huh?

FYI, SOUNDMAN.EXE is his onboard sound, probably a Realtek chipset if I remember.

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C:\WINDOWS\system32\riai.exe
What is that!  I did a search on microsoft and google.  I can not find what that exe is.

Otherwise I can identify everything else

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C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
Windows stuff
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C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
ATI stuff
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C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
Grisoft AVG

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C:\WINDOWS\SOUNDMAN.EXE
Realtek sound manager

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C:\Program Files\BroadJump\Client Foundation\CFD.exe
Broadjump cable modem dohickey.  You actually installed the software that came with your cable modem?  heh.

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C:\Program Files\BillP Studios\WinPatrol\winpatrol.exe
C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.40607\aspnet_admin.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\Steam.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Tommy\Desktop\Mame32.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Tommy\Desktop\mame 0.98\mame32p.exe
C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe
C:\DOCUME~1\Tommy\LOCALS~1\Temp\Rar$EX00.047\HijackThis.exe
obvious stuff

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C:\WINDOWS\wanmpsvc.exe
Using AOL, huh?

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C:\Program Files\Support.com\bin\tgcmd.exe
This one is odd.
http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/tgcmd/
Must hav ea Sony or Toshiba monitor and you installed the software that came with it?
Not harmful since it is a support tool, but you might want to get rid of it from the sounds of it
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Security/Win_Security/Q_20417487.html
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/tgcmd.exe.html

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #61 on: August 08, 2005, 11:56:25 am »
Looking back through the thread, what's the problem?  I don;t see details of the problem, just "it crashed!" type statements.  When does it crash, does it say anything, etc...

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #62 on: August 08, 2005, 01:44:56 pm »
Ugh....don't post that here.  Post it at a forum with Hijack This masters.

And did you go through the processes from the link I gave you to another guy who had your same problem?

Dave wanted to look at the log.   Working on it



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C:\WINDOWS\system32\riai.exe

NO idea what that is, could be the problem.

Zone alarm is telling me this is trying to access the internet all the time.



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C:\Program Files\Support.com\bin\tgcmd.exe



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Looking back through the thread, what's the problem? I don;t see details of the problem, just "it crashed!" type statements. When does it crash, does it say anything, etc...

It doesn't say anything. It was crashing on video game play and it seems the fan i installed fixed that. The other thing was upon a reboot i would have the same spyware/virus i just deleted on the prior roboot.  Reoccurring problems. Did you not read that part?
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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #63 on: August 08, 2005, 03:03:13 pm »
Chad, never used AVG, huh?

No, I have always used McAfee.  Never had one virus problem.

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #64 on: August 08, 2005, 04:47:09 pm »
It doesn't say anything. It was crashing on video game play and it seems the fan i installed fixed that. The other thing was upon a reboot i would have the same spyware/virus i just deleted on the prior roboot.  Reoccurring problems. Did you not read that part?
Always in a video game?  When you say crash you mean the display freezes and doesn;t appear there is an human interaction?
What video card?

Sounds like
1) driver problem, my ati driver crashes once and awhile :( 
2) more likely card is overheating

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #65 on: August 08, 2005, 05:00:58 pm »
It doesn't say anything. It was crashing on video game play and it seems the fan i installed fixed that. The other thing was upon a reboot i would have the same spyware/virus i just deleted on the prior roboot.  Reoccurring problems. Did you not read that part?
Always in a video game?  When you say crash you mean the display freezes and doesn;t appear there is an human interaction?
What video card?

Sounds like
1) driver problem, my ati driver crashes once and awhile :( 
2) more likely card is overheating

Sometimes my system would just reboot, other times it would freeze, but that SEEMS to be  fixed now.(Radeon 9200 pci card)

I was thinking the crashing had something to do with the virus. (could still be but hasn't since the fan was put in place) The video card was fine with no fan for along time before.






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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #66 on: August 08, 2005, 06:07:27 pm »
Did you recently make any changed, move the PC, load new drivers?

It probably was just over heating.  Which will cause that.  Either a driver call will fail and cause the reboot as Windows will bail or the overheat will cause the videocard to stop functioning, hence the freeze.

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #67 on: August 08, 2005, 08:34:53 pm »
...so I will ask you... "Deal, or No Deal?"

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #68 on: August 08, 2005, 09:39:38 pm »
I see you like my virus, Tommy...   :-*  enjoy!   :D

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2005, 11:18:18 pm »
I see you like my virus, Tommy...

Got your IP punk, i see you vist the scat sites often.  :police:  :-*

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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #70 on: August 09, 2005, 07:53:22 am »
I think AVG is better than McAfee.  The fact that it's free is also a bonus.

That said, I use McAfee cos I got a free 2 year license from my work.  So when that's up maybe I'll switch to AVG.
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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #71 on: August 09, 2005, 08:21:12 pm »
I see you like my virus, Tommy...

Got your IP punk, i see you vist the scat sites often.  :police:  :-*

I see by your admission that you also visit 'em often.  Perhaps you shouldn't beat him up for it, but ask him for tips to better sites ;D
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Re: Crashing all the time
« Reply #72 on: August 09, 2005, 09:24:39 pm »

I see by your admission that you also visit 'em often. 
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