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Finished my DC Controls
« on: July 04, 2005, 09:55:45 pm »
I know its dorky, but feel kinda proud that I did my own DC controllers.  I added a molex connector so i can switch between DC and MAME easier.  Anyhow, just wanted to thank all those that gave me advice and post some pics of the controls :)

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2005, 03:58:37 am »
looks good! dont worry about sounding like a nerd, isn't everyone who wants to build a cabinet to play games on. Ill be posting pics of mine when i get around to it aswell.

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2005, 05:44:24 pm »
looks fine....
now how much was that I owe you?
still have my shiping address right?  ;) ;D

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2005, 09:16:21 pm »
Looks good. Yeah there is nothing dorky about that stuff here. I went with db25 connectors for mine. So I can switch between mame, DC, and PS2. Then I have a PS2 adapter for my xbox so I didnt have to hack any xbox pads. :)  Yeah, Yeah, its a liittle cluttered in there :P.


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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2005, 03:45:56 pm »
Nicely done!

I am planning on doing something similar soon. I see you hacked the standard DC pads, was it hard to do? I have limited soldering skills but I have loads of soldering to do soon so hopefully I will be up to standard by then. I would like to get some Madcatz pads as they are apparently easier to hack than the official ones but they seem to be rarer than rocking horse ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.

Could you post the link to the thread where you were given advice on it? Could you also post some info and pics about the molex connector?

Thanks

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2005, 05:00:41 pm »
Man!! i dunno how you can handle all them wires with the same color!! it's seems really hard to find a bug in that harness.


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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2005, 10:00:42 pm »
My advice, more hot glue. I hacked a cheap PSX style PC controller like that a while ago and kept having the solder joints come off the pads. I ended up blobbing on huge amounts of hot glue over the entire thing and I have yet to have a problem.
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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2005, 11:33:09 pm »
Nicely done!

I am planning on doing something similar soon. I see you hacked the standard DC pads, was it hard to do? I have limited soldering skills but I have loads of soldering to do soon so hopefully I will be up to standard by then. I would like to get some Madcatz pads as they are apparently easier to hack than the official ones but they seem to be rarer than rocking horse ---auto-censored---.

Could you post the link to the thread where you were given advice on it? Could you also post some info and pics about the molex connector?

Thanks

From what i've been told Madcatz is easiest if you can get ahold of some, and it looks like you have. :)

I used a diagram on mameworld.net dreamcastjamma section.

As for the molex connectors, there's nothing to them really.  You can order them from Happs, not sure where else carries them.

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2005, 01:37:33 am »
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As for the molex connectors, there's nothing to them really.  You can order them from Happs, not sure where else carries them.

Radio Shack does too.

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2005, 10:44:58 pm »
I had two Dreamcast controller ports fry on MadCatz controllers, and was told this was a common problem for the Dreamcast using MadCatz. 

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2005, 05:19:37 am »
Does anyone know how hard the official pads are to hack compared to the madkatz? I ask becuase the seller that I won two of on ebay only turns out to have one. Im bidding on a full system at the moment which comes with two controlers so im thinking I may give them a go. I already have a DC and pads so it does not really matter if I mess two up.

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2005, 02:42:39 pm »
I haven't hacked a madkatz before, but I had no trouble at all with the sega pads.  Make sure to use flux to get a solid connection to the board.  One issue you should be aware of is a very tiny delay for the hacked L + R buttons on the sega pads that is not present on the madkatz.  It really is very minor and isn't noticeable, but you might consider waiting for the madkatz.

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2005, 08:48:42 pm »
They look like very similar hacks to me. Shell, scratch (if necessary), and solder. The holes on the madcatz boards are nice, but on one of mine, I still went and soldered right to the contacts on the board.

The only big diff I see is that the madcatz has 6-buttons so you can skip any issue soldering to the shoulder triggers. But I don't think there's much of an issue there anyway.

I say hack what you have on hand.

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2005, 10:09:35 pm »
The only big diff I see is that the madcatz has 6-buttons so you can skip any issue soldering to the shoulder triggers. But I don't think there's much of an issue there anyway.

Yeah...It is not an issue.  The triggers are actually probably easier because there's a nice glob of solder on the board that you can take advantage of.

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2005, 10:21:21 pm »
hmmm. I thought the sega brand was unhackable.
I know one of the sticks I have was said not any good to hack

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2005, 10:23:00 pm »
Sega official and MadKatz are both hackable.  The Astro Pad (performance) is NOT hackable.

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2005, 08:05:04 pm »
The Astro Pad (performance) is NOT hackable.

Why?  Are there no solder points on the Astro Pad?  Do you know of other controllers that are hackable besides the official Sega and Madcatz?

I'm going to be doing this hack within the next week, so I appreciate any feedback.  ;D

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2005, 08:42:11 pm »
I bet it has multiple grounds, which complicates things if you want to hook up multiple systems to your arcade.

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2005, 11:44:43 pm »
I bet it has multiple grounds, which complicates things if you want to hook up multiple systems to your arcade.

Yup. Multiple grounds. I found out the hard way.

That doesn't make it unhackable, but it makes it not worth doing. But if you really wanted to hack one, you could keep all the grounds separate (no daisy-chained common).

Some of the earlier MadCatz have multiple grounds too. I have one. But the great majority of them aren't like that.

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2005, 10:49:51 am »
The Astro Pad (performance) is NOT hackable.

Why?  Are there no solder points on the Astro Pad?  Do you know of other controllers that are hackable besides the official Sega and Madcatz?

I'm going to be doing this hack within the next week, so I appreciate any feedback.  ;D

Yes, there are multiple grounds... and the L/R triggers on the Astro Pad are not hackable...

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Re: Finished my DC Controls
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2005, 08:52:48 am »
Yes, there are multiple grounds... and the L/R triggers on the Astro Pad are not hackable...

This guy did it. But his control panel was dedicated to the pad. This is not a hack you'd want to apply to a general purpose cab.

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