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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2005, 01:45:18 pm »
If ANYONE on this website admitted to sharing a bed with a 12 year old   'friend' on countless ocassions we'd be inside for a very long time. How on Earth does he get away with an admission like that?

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2005, 01:46:24 pm »
He didn't get away with it, he has had a DA trying to put him away for years.

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2005, 01:47:50 pm »
I'll bet that part of the tack his team took was to play up his pathetic-ness in order to help explain away his abberant behavior.

It sure was. But it wasn't what the jurors based their decisions on. As it shouldn't have been...


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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2005, 01:51:31 pm »
He was found innocent therefore he got away with it.

The precedent has been set, sharing a bed with 12 year olds is legal.
To me it may be legally alright but it is morally wrong and I just found the whole case to be exetremly disturbing.

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2005, 01:54:44 pm »
The precedent has been set, sharing a bed with 12 year olds is legal.

That's not a precedent, as he wasn't charged with sharing a bed with 12 year olds nor are there any laws against sharing a bed with 12 year olds.

It is wrong but not illegal.  Law and morality are not the same.

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2005, 01:58:10 pm »
If ANYONE on this website admitted to sharing a bed with a 12 year old   'friend' on countless ocassions we'd be inside for a very long time. How on Earth does he get away with an admission like that?

Easy. No one, to date, has been able to prove any wrong-doing. As I mentioned earlier...as irregular, unusual, unseemly, and immoral you may think it is, sharing a bed with a 12 year old is not a crime. It's gross and creepy....but unless a credible witness can come forward, or some solid evidence of molestation can be found, MJ is innocent until proven guilty. I know that pisses a lot of people off, but hey, that's life.

It's times like this I'm glad we have a jury system and a seperation of church (morality) and state (rule of law). I'm speaking well beyond *this* particular case too. I have no idea if Jackson is guilty or innocent, but I'm willing to accept the jury's conclusion.


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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2005, 02:12:30 pm »
If ANYONE on this website admitted to sharing a bed with a 12 year old   'friend' on countless ocassions we'd be inside for a very long time. How on Earth does he get away with an admission like that?

Easy. No one, to date, has been able to prove any wrong-doing. As I mentioned earlier...as irregular, unusual, unseemly, and immoral you may think it is, sharing a bed with a 12 year old is not a crime. It's gross and creepy....but unless a credible witness can come forward, or some solid evidence of molestation can be found, MJ is innocent until proven guilty. I know that pisses a lot of people off, but hey, that's life.

It's times like this I'm glad we have a jury system and a seperation of church (morality) and state (rule of law). I'm speaking well beyond *this* particular case too. I have no idea if Jackson is guilty or innocent, but I'm willing to accept the jury's conclusion.


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In principle I agree however if you or I were to admit to sharing a bed with a 12 year old we'd be lucky to get out of town alive.

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2005, 02:16:16 pm »
I don't agree with MJ's views and I think he's a freak, but that doesn't mean I should think he's guilty. I wasn't a juror and I was only given the information the media wanted me to hear. The jury heard it all and if they feel there is resonable doubt then that's what there is..........

And I have to accept that........

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2005, 02:35:59 pm »
In principle I agree however if you or I were to admit to sharing a bed with a 12 year old we'd be lucky to get out of town alive.

That is true but has nothing to do with law or the charges against him.

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2005, 03:10:06 pm »
Whether he was guilty or not, the DA chose to go ahead with the case when the family had already sued fradulently in a different case and the accusor admitted to previously lying under oath. This, plus the fact that the mother was a nut job, leads me to the conclusion that any half decent defense team could have proved reasonable doubt.

Was the DA ever realistically going to secure a conviction?

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #50 on: June 14, 2005, 04:04:40 pm »
Probably not, but he has been trying to get Jackson for years and this was the best shot he's had so far.

It certainly wasn't a well prosecuted case.

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2005, 05:02:18 pm »
Probably not, but he has been trying to get Jackson for years and this was the best shot he's had so far.

It certainly wasn't a well prosecuted case.

Is it right that the defendant can get whoever they wan't to defend them while the prosecution must go with the local District Attorney?

If so isn't that like putting the New York Yankees up against a local softball team?

Excuse the ignorance if this is incorrect.

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2005, 05:10:42 pm »
That's how I believe it works.  Sadly.

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2005, 05:30:53 pm »
Is it right that the defendant can get whoever they wan't to defend them while the prosecution must go with the local District Attorney?

If so isn't that like putting the New York Yankees up against a local softball team?
It's all relevant; the local softball team can wait until they have what they need to win.

The 1927 New York Yankees is regarded as the best of all time.

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #54 on: June 15, 2005, 07:51:23 pm »
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Now that Michael Jackson has sent hack prosecutor Tom Sneddon back to working cases of vagrants caught sleeping on the beach in Santa Barbara, I think it is reasonable to conclude the following lessons from the trial.

1. Money always wins. Okay, "usually wins..."

2. Black people CAN get a fair trial in America (although please refer to #1).

3. Martha Stewart went to jail and Eric Pederson is going to the electric chair, because it LOOKED like each one was guilty. OJ and Jacko are free, even though we know Jackson DID sleep with boys, and a civil trial DID say OJ was "responsible" for the deaths of Ron and Nicole.

4. Okay, Robert Blake looked dicey, but I guess that's one for "my side"...

5. If Ken Lay and Phil Spectre beat the rap, then we've REALLY got a problem.

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2005, 08:42:59 am »
2. Black people CAN get a fair trial in America

I'm confused what does this have to do with the case being discussed?

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2005, 12:45:24 pm »
I think it is reasonable to conclude the following lessons from the trial.

I've concluded one lesson from those trials:

California's legal system sux!

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2005, 08:50:37 pm »
June 17, 2005
SADDAM REQUESTS JACKSON'S JURY

Asks Accuser's Mom to Testify Against Him

Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein startled the international legal community today by requesting that the jury in the Michael Jackson child molestation trial be empanelled to sit in judgment of him when his trial gets underway in Baghdad.

The Iraqi dictator made the extraordinary request in a special hearing today, telling the judge in his case, "There is no jury in the world better qualified to hear my case than those twelve people who just let Michael Jackson walk."

In addition to requesting the Jackson jury, Saddam also requested that the mother of Mr. Jackson's accuser be called upon to testify against him in his trial.

The Iraqi madman, who had been gloomy and depressed in recent months, reportedly "perked up" when the Jackson verdict was announced earlier this week, sources inside his prison said.

"When the verdict was read and it was not guilty on all counts, Saddam practically jumped out of his chair," one source said.  "He was like, 'I've got to get that jury - they're awesome!'"

While international human rights groups scrambled to examine the legal and ethical issues involved in bringing the entire Jackson jury to Iraq, a spokesperson for the jury said that the twelve men and women might not be willing to make the journey from Santa Maria, California to Baghdad.

"These are twelve very busy people," said the spokesperson, Stacy DeLone.  "They all have book and movie deals - plus, Milosevic asked first."

Elsewhere, coach Phil Jackson called his return to the Los Angeles Lakers "a story of redemption, reconciliation, and 10 million dollars a year."
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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2005, 10:26:03 am »
Not that I really want to explore this in great detail (*Yuck*), but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that MJ doesn't participate in sexual activity *at all*. That he's repulsed by it and/or uncomfortable with it altogether.
Evidently, he participated in it enough to father two children with his ex-wife.
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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2005, 10:26:48 am »
Evidently, he participated in it enough to father two children with his ex-wife.

You don't have to have had sex to father children.

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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2005, 10:28:41 am »
Evidently, he participated in it enough to father two children with his ex-wife.
You don't have to have had sex to father children.
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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2005, 10:32:02 am »
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That he's repulsed by it and/or uncomfortable with it altogether.


Oh please.  He's repulsed with WOMEN maybe.
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Re: MJ Not Guilty
« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2005, 06:47:05 pm »
Not that I really want to explore this in great detail (*Yuck*), but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that MJ doesn't participate in sexual activity *at all*. That he's repulsed by it and/or uncomfortable with it altogether.
Evidently, he participated in it enough to father two children with his ex-wife.

I never heard if he married that specimen cup, and I KNOW I never heard about him divorcing it!
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