Woman Tassered

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woman refuses to hang up cell phone and get out of car.......


Story

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Video

[DYNAGOD]

RESPECT MY AUTHORITY!!

well she sure got out quick when that taser hit her...worked like a charm..
how stupid do you have to be..
she deserved every last volt..

[ChadTower]

DAMMIT.  I want to see this, but my work machine won't let me install Quicktime.  This may be my new favorite thing ever.

[Dartful Dodger]

Tasers are very dangerous, that is why the people of Illinois are grateful that Blowguyvitch is protecting us from other citizens trying to defend themselves with a taser.

Sat Jun 4 2005

FOID now required to purchase Stun Gun

Gov. Rod Blagojevich signed into law on Friday legislation that will impose a criminal background check and 24-hour waiting period on people who buy stun guns and Tasers, the same restrictions already in place for gun purchases.

This law was the result of two people being tasered to death by the Chicago Police.

[Shape D.]

Same here I can't watch it, and I can't download it on my work computer. Or else i'd end up having the  IT  guys tasing me.

[monkeybomb]

Wow!  I just wtached the good parts like ten times.  I love seeing someone who has it coming get it.  I very rarely think it is funny when people get hurt.  I am a very empathetic person...but this is fantastic.

[ChadTower]

The chick seems to represent so many things that deserve to be tasered:  haughty model, indignant cell phone user, speeder, SUV driver.  I cannot wait to view this again and again.

[Jabba]

Man, she like moaned for 5 minutes of that clip. She got tassered twice!!! Not once but twice!

[ChadTower]

big girls don't cry they take all of it

     - lil kim

[JB]

Tasers are very dangerous, that is why the people of Illinois are grateful that Blowguyvitch is protecting us from other citizens trying to defend themselves with a taser.

Sat Jun 4 2005

FOID now required to purchase Stun Gun

Gov. Rod Blagojevich signed into law on Friday legislation that will impose a criminal background check and 24-hour waiting period on people who buy stun guns and Tasers, the same restrictions already in place for gun purchases.

This law was the result of two people being tasered to death by the Chicago Police.

Hah. Cops abuse things, so they restrict the civilians. Way to go!

[DrewKaree]

This law was the result of two people being tasered to death by the Chicago Police.

Hah. Cops abuse things, so they restrict the civilians. Way to go!

Where in DD's post did you read that the police abused the use of tasers?  People read into stories what they want, so they make assumptions based on their own guesses.  Way to go! 

You haven't the faintest clue based on what was said of ANYTHING that happened that contributed to the deaths.  How old were the people who died?  How many times were they tasered?  Were there any issues that the taser exacerbated, causing the death?  Were there problems with their taser guns?  Good questions to ask.  You can thank me later for helping you through the logic process.

[AceTKK]

From watching the video it looks to me like the second blast was not necessary.  Then again, I wasn't there and it's not my call to make.

-Ace-

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Where in DD's post did you read that the police abused the use of tasers?

Instead of being all hoity-toity about the "logic" process, why don't you enlighten us about the facts then? I'm curious myself, but since you're acting like you sat on the jury, I'll just wait for you to point me to the "tuth". When you ridicule without providing any further evidence, you aren't doing yourself any justice. Jus' sayin'.

Were you being tasered as you typed? 'Cuz it does seem kinda' spastic.

DD Wrote:

This law was the result of two people being tasered to death by the Chicago Police.

Seems pretty straight forward to me. I can see where JB's inference came from. Whether or not he is correct, why is it up to JB to clarify DD's statement? I think you've got it all backwards dude.


mrC

[DrewKaree]

It's a pretty simple process.  Google.  Read the story.  Try it sometime.  Is he in your fanclub and that's why you're all in knots over my "ridicule"?  It's bad enough he didn't run through the basic steps, but you fall all over yourself to tell us you believe the same thing after reading DD's words yet my point still remains - and is correct about his post - that DD said nothing about abuse.  You read into it exactly what he did. 

Where did DD say the cops abused the use of the taser?  He didn't.  Point it out, instead of feigning ignorance.  You can't, because it isn't there.  The convolutions normally gone through might make this SEEM like it's pretty "straight forward", but just because you can infer whatever you wish, say whatever you wish, the words don't exist in his post and the stories don't say it either.  Demonstrate your ability to stop your knee from jerking by linking us to your "abuse" story instead of trying to read between the lines of every story.

Since you see things that don't exist as being "straight forward", let me put this down in as clear a fashion as I can for you:

It wasn't stated to be abuse, either by DD or the reports.  Next.

[JB]

This law was the result of two people being tasered to death by the Chicago Police.

Hah. Cops abuse things, so they restrict the civilians. Way to go!

Where in DD's post did you read that the police abused the use of tasers?  People read into stories what they want, so they make assumptions based on their own guesses.  Way to go! 

You haven't the faintest clue based on what was said of ANYTHING that happened that contributed to the deaths.  How old were the people who died?  How many times were they tasered?  Were there any issues that the taser exacerbated, causing the death?  Were there problems with their taser guns?  Good questions to ask.  You can thank me later for helping you through the logic process.

Here's what I see.
Cops kill 2 people with tasers. Law is passed restricting availability of tasers to civilians, which wasn't even the problem.

[crashwg]

That was friggin cool!  She so had that comming!

On a not so related note, has anyone else seen the video of the bull being tazered with what I assume is a special "live stock" tazer?  It falls over and looks like rigamortise has set in long ago it is so stiff!  I was amazed.  Here, take a look!

[TOK]

How do you suppose the aftermath would have been if the cop was white?

[Dartful Dodger]

Cops kill 2 people with tasers. Law is passed restricting availability of tasers to civilians, which wasn't even the problem.

To add to that, in Illinois it's always been illegal to carry a taser, so now you need a gun card and a background check to buy a tool for home use only, that is only effective at short distances, and against a single home invader that is wearing light clothing, plus you only get one shot.

The people that died weren't old; they had existing heart conditions that the police officers had no way to know about.  The reason it became a big deal is that those two people died within one week of each other.  It wasn't the officers fault those people died, but I

[mr.Curmudgeon]

How do you suppose the aftermath would have been if the cop was white?

The cop that tassered her *was* white. The cop that came in later (after she was tassered) was black.

mrC

[mr.Curmudgeon]

It's a pretty simple process.  Google.  Read the story.  Try it sometime.  Is he in your fanclub and that's why you're all in knots over my "ridicule"?

It has nothing to do with that. JB's "mr.C FanClub" membership had lapsed months ago, he's behind on his dues. It has everything to do with you jumping down people's throats for not having "the faintest clue" about the story, all while *not* providing any clues at all. Let alone faint ones. It's kinda' funny really. What? Doesn't Glenn Beck have a link about it somewhere for you to parrot?

It wasn't stated to be abuse, either by DD or the reports.  Next.

So where's the proof? Link? Are we supposed to just take your word now? I've taken the time to actually email contacts for stories I've put forth (just ask ChadTower), the least you could do (unless you're feigning outrage again) is provide a link backing up your claim.

mrC

[ChadTower]

Leave me out of this one, thanks.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Leave me out of this one, thanks.

Fine. Your fanclub membership is revoked now too. Sorry no refunds, even though you paid through 2006.


mrC

[ChadTower]

Then give me my boot back.

[Dartful Dodger]

So where's the proof? Link? Are we supposed to just take your word now?

I was on vacation in Vegas when I heard about these two events.

[Stingray]

No one should be outraged about Illinois taser laws, because it's a useless home defense tool.

I don't know, I'm pretty sure I could give somebody a pretty nasty knock on the noggin with one if you let me have a good swing with it.

-S

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Well, the video certainly, IMHO, doesn't support the case that cops *don't* abuse the use of tasers.

I mean, haven't we all seen the fairly popular video where the white dude, after being pulled over in his van for speeding, screams obscenities at the trooper for like 10 mins, tears the ticket up, throws it in the cops face...who then proceeds to write the guy another ticket for littering?

It demonstrates that cops don't always HAVE to resort to force immediately. This guy (in the taser video) tells her he's going to taser her three times, but only in a span of about 10-20secs. It's pretty clear she didn't even understand what a taser WAS. She thought it was a gun. So she freaks out. He could have just easily said, "I am going to zap you with 50,000 volts if you don't move now."

To me, the cop in this video uses it too quickly (ie: timeframe)...sure he tells her to exit the vehicle, but it's apparent she is afraid, so she makes a phone call. Might she be exploiting the fear held by the black community, the fear of overzealous white officers? Maybe. But it's not like there isn't precedent for her to fear excessive force. Especially NOW...I'm mean, she gets tasered TWICE for giving the cop some sh!t. Was he EVER in danger? Don't think so.

Did see deserve to be arrested? Yes. Did she give the cop reason to be frustrated? Yes. Did she deserve to be tasered TWICE? Not in my opinion.

I'm all for the use of tasers, in fact, the video is funny to watch. I just think this cop could have handled the situation a little better, all without the need to use such force.

I wouldn't be surprised if she gets a hefty payout from her lawsuit.

EDIT: Look at the damn thing. No wonder she thought he was going to shoot her.



mrC

[Stingray]

Woo! That's cool!

<stormtrooper voice>THERE'S ONE, SET FOR STUN!</stormtrooper voice>

-S

[monkeybomb]

I think there needs to be a point where someone gets tased.  To me she hit it.

She was completely defiant in every way.  It's easy for us to say he wasn't in danger.  But the first thing she does is open the door.  To a cop that is a threat.  Then she doesn't close it when he asks.  That sets the tone.  Then she does her thing with the attitude (not taserable to me).  But when she is sitting there on the phone, what should the guy have done?  Should he set a precident for arrests at the convinence of crimminals.  She also has a lit cigarette.  Should he wait for that to end up in his eye?

I think it is so easy to say what cops should do, but so hard to be a cop!!  There are jobs open in Los Angeles that our city can't fill.  Your welcome to apply. 

I also think there is nothing to discuss in term of race here.  But I believe in attitude profiling (TM).  Let me assure you this atitude crosses race without hesitation.   If you worked in south central Los Angeles (like I do) you would know where this was going and where it comes from.  She was NEVER going to simply do what she was supossed to.  The officer also claims that the women swung at the other cop.  I can't confirm or deny that, but this woman has no credability, because she lies right on the video. 

As for the paper guy, I haven't seen it.  But if that cop felt in danger then hit that guy too!

[ChadTower]

Everyone driving without a license should be tasered, even if they cooperate.

[Stingray]

Everyone driving without a license should be tasered, even if they cooperate.

Add driving with no insurance to that list as well.

-S

[ChadTower]

Drunk drivers should be tasered every 15 minutes until they sober up, and THEN arrested.

[Stingray]

Drunk drivers should be tasered every 15 minutes until they sober up, and THEN arrested.

They're likely to puke before they sober up. Not that I have a problem with that, I just don't want to get any on me.

-S

[ChadTower]

Is puke a conductor?

[mr.Curmudgeon]

I think it is so easy to say what cops should do, but so hard to be a cop!!  There are jobs open in Los Angeles that our city can't fill.  Your welcome to apply.

Agreed. But I won't be applying in L.A., can't stand the place. I know enough about what a cop goes through since I have a few buddies that are cops....in Detroit. So, it might not be South Central, but it sure ain't DisneyLand.

My original point is derived from the slew of articles in the Palm Beach Post, which seem to support that idea that cops are using tasers all too frequently, and often without merit.

Now, I know this flies in the face of the idea that if cops ran around tasing people for just about any reason, like our resident toughguy and "keyboard commando" ChadTower suggests, we'd somehow have nothing short of a Utopia, right?

To me, however, it points to the proclivity for the abuse of power, since, as cops are given "less lethal" means to arrest people, they seem to be using them *more often*...again, as the Palm Beach Post's investigation seems to suggest, that's exactly what seems to be happening in their area. I'm not sure it speaks for all cities, but I know we had a girl killed by an errant gas canister fired by police here in Boston, after the Sox won the World Series. There was no reason to fire it, yet they did and someone died because of it.


mrC

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Bottom line for me (from the PB Post):

"Police chiefs are moving with urgency to develop countywide standards on the use of Taser stun guns."

Uh....yeah, that's probably a good idea. I support that.

[ChadTower]

She was NOT killed by an errant gas cannister.

[monkeybomb]

Mr C - I'm sure detroit cops are very familiar with the problems of south central. 

I was more talking about the video than all that reading required for the entire report.  I'm sure you're right about the increase use of non leathal means.  But some of that may come with an increase of people like this one.

And most importantly - Would you put a link to dictionary.com in your sig, if you are going to continue being a vocabulry show off.  for real

[ChadTower]

If I'm a cop, and a person is not cooperating, and reaching around their car like she was, I'm going to taser them every time.  All it takes is one loony with a pistol to end your day way quicker than you wanted it ended.

[CCM]

haven't we all seen the fairly popular video where the white dude, after being pulled over in his van for speeding, screams obscenities at the trooper for like 10 mins, tears the ticket up, throws it in the cops face...who then proceeds to write the guy another ticket for littering?

and haven't we all seen the videos where the officer approaches a car he's just pulled over and gets shot by the driver?  Or the videos where the suspect pulls over, then speeds off, nearly running the officer over?

, but it's apparent she is afraid, so she makes a phone call. Might she be exploiting the fear held by the black community, the fear of overzealous white officers?

You say it was apparent she was afriad, I heard no fear in her voice only defiance and indifference towards what the officer was telling her to do.

Was he EVER in danger? Don't think so.

Easy for you to say while you're sitting in front of your computer.  How is the officer supposed to know that she doesn't have a weapon, or that she isn't going to put her SUV in gear and try to speed off, possibly  injuring the officer?



The bottom line is, if you are pulled over, do what the officer tells you to do , and everything will be fine.  The officer is well within his rights to use force if a subject is resisting. 

[dek]

It demonstrates that cops don't always HAVE to resort to force immediately. This guy (in the taser video) tells her he's going to taser her three times, but only in a span of about 10-20secs. It's pretty clear she didn't even understand what a taser WAS. She thought it was a gun. So she freaks out. He could have just easily said, "I am going to zap you with 50,000 volts if you don't move now."

To me, the cop in this video uses it too quickly (ie: timeframe)...sure he tells her to exit the vehicle, but it's apparent she is afraid, so she makes a phone call. Might she be exploiting the fear held by the black community, the fear of overzealous white officers? Maybe. But it's not like there isn't precedent for her to fear excessive force. Especially NOW...I'm mean, she gets tasered TWICE for giving the cop some sh!t. Was he EVER in danger? Don't think so.


mrC

Immediately? Break down the video

He pulls her over for speeding and malfunctioning brake lights. IMMEDIATELY *SHE* is beligerant and hostile towards the officer. First thing she does is open her door, which you are never supposed to do. He asks her to close her door, she doesn't, and the first thing out of her mouth is "What are you pulling me over for?" He says "For speeding, close your door please" then she says? "But you were driving" his response "Yeah I was driving, close the door" she says "I don't have to close my door!"