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Author Topic: Daphne, Linux, G400 & 15khz possible?  (Read 2014 times)

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Daphne, Linux, G400 & 15khz possible?
« on: June 01, 2005, 04:22:33 pm »
(I apologize for the crosspost, but the original post in the monitor forum didn't seem to be noticed...)

The subject says it all.  I have a cabinet with a standard monitor running Linux on a Matrox G400 with AdvanceMenu and AdvanceMame.  Is it possible to run Daphne with this arrangement in some way?

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Re: Daphne, Linux, G400 & 15khz possible?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2005, 03:35:10 am »
afaik not a chance.....

By an arcadevga and install windows :)

Seriously.....  since daphne only runs in macOs, Linux or Windows and afaik the linux gui doesn't allow the software forcing of 15khz modes you are sol unless you switch oses and switch to a hardware solution.  Of course arcadevga might have linux drivers, I'm not too familiar with the combination of the two.

*sigh* and people wonder why I don't reccomend linux for an arcade cab. 

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Re: Daphne, Linux, G400 & 15khz possible?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2005, 04:08:52 am »
afaik the linux gui doesn't allow the software forcing of 15khz modes.

It most certainly does.  X-Windows will happily accept any modelines you can come up with.  Just add them to your XF86Config, XF86Config-4 or xorg.conf file, as per the instructions here:

http://easymamecab.mameworld.net/html/x11r6.htm

All that matters is that your VGA card is capable of low enough pclocks to match the low res modes.  Your G400 will easily do 15KHz modes according to this:

http://easymamecab.mameworld.net/html/mg400.htm

*sigh* and people wonder why I don't reccomend linux for an arcade cab. 

Oh no, I know perfectly well why you don't recommend Linux: because you have absolutely no experience using it.  Your post history is proof of that.  That's not necessarily a bad thing, however.  Better to avoid something you don't know anything about than rag on it unecessarily.  After all, that would be totally naive, wouldn't it?

Best you stick to the Windows threads where your experience is a little more relevant.

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Re: Daphne, Linux, G400 & 15khz possible?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2005, 05:19:47 pm »
No my experience with Linux is great, it's your attitude that needs work.

If you'd research those links you gave, you'd realize that the only reason Mame (this is Daphne we are talking about, try to keep up)  sets arcade modes is because of advance Mame i.e., the emulator supports arcade modes as well.....  Daphne does not support arcade modes so setting the OS to arcade frequencies is useless.  Btw you can even set xp to arcade frequencies via a few clever registry hacks and something like powerstrip, but like in Linux, it's essentially useless as most emulators don't support those frequencies and thus they force it back to another mode. 

The Linux OS is capable of setting arcade modes, but afaik it isn't capable of forcing  other fullscreen applications to stick to those modes..... neither is windows for that matter.  In other words, there isn't a software solution, only a hardware one, namely 640x480 interlaced (as Daphne won't run at any resolution lower than 640x480).  Which can only be forced upon Daphne afaik with an arcadevga. 

I wish people would take my advice as the gospel (as they should, I don't chime in unless I know what I'm talking about.)  instead of contradicting my "short and sweet" answer forcing me to post an unnecessarily long one which proves I'm still right. 

I believe, as the kids say elvis, you just "got served".   ;D

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Re: Daphne, Linux, G400 & 15khz possible?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2005, 07:11:08 am »
The "Linux OS" has nothing to do with resolutions.  That is up to XFree86.  And yes, forcing a single mode (or multiple low-res modes) in X is entirely possible, just as it is in Windows - there's no difference in functionality there, as much as you would incorrectly claim it so.  X will happily force fullscreen applications using X11, xV, SDL or OpenGL to available resolutions (which is exactly how TV-out works on X, FYI).  Where the heck you come up with your 'factual' information is beyond me.

Yet again, your inexperience speaks for itself.  It is obvious by your own words you have absolutely no knowledge even of the basic terminology, let alone the inner workings of the graphical server you preach against.  Your attempts to denigrate a system you obviously are incapable of using or administering are questionable at best.

Stop trolling Linux posts and beating your own chest.  Stick to subjects where you know what you are talking about.  Either help or don't waste everyone's time.