Goodsets?

[NoBonus]

Hello,

Okay, I am very familiar with MAME and MESS and the other emulators, but what is a "Goodset"? and where can I find more info on the goodsets?

[Veinman]

I think that is a term given to a complete set of roms. Example- you have all NES roms in one or more volumes comprising a "goodset". They also have a "standard" format for documentation, etc.

[NoBonus]

Is there a MAME goodset?

[jcrouse]

There are two rom naming conventions, Cowering's Good Tools and TOSEC. Follow the links for more information.

http://www.mameworld.net/easyemu/gtguide.htm

http://www.tosec.info/modules/news/

Enjoy,
John

[NoBonus]

So a goodset is a set of roms using a standard naming convention?  Does this also imply that all of the roms function properly? or just named properly?

[jcrouse]

Named properly. There are acutally flags for bad CRC's and checksums. Not all roms in a set work.

John

[NoBonus]

So they are not so "good", just a set of roms with standard info.  Why can't we strive for actual good sets of roms with only working roms for us non-developer types?

[2600]

That is their goal, or at least one of them, but you don't wake up one day with every rom set known to man dumped correctly for every known console and arcade game laying in your lap.  It's actually the non-developers who try to collect every hacked rom, bad dumped, etc.  That's why they label them correctly so you know if it's a hack or bad dump or whatever. 

It's up to you  are you the type who wants everything or do you weed out the crap?

[NoBonus]

I am a firm supporter of weeding-out crap.  I am actually trying to make a mame-rom set list that only includes certain, non-crap games; specifically, I am weeding-out all of the non-English Mahjongg/Quiz games, all of the games with nudity, all of the non-english clones without unique content (other than the text in a different language), and all of the non-working roms.  I also want to identify all of the remaining games that have realistic violence so I can play them, but keep the little ones away from those games (My toddler does not need to play Mortal Kombat).

This would leave only games that are playable and suitable for families.
 

[Dire Radiant]

What you need is screaming's Listgen.NET It won't sort the non-kid-safe games for you but I used it to remove all Mahjong games, all games with a "mature" catver flag and all unplayable roms. Goodtools is aimed at console roms, not MAME. You can't use cowering's naming convention since MAME requires roms to be named using it's own system.

If you do want to use it for sorting a set of perfect console roms then it's very easy. Just select everything that has a [!] flag in the filename. No system is perfect however and doing that will also eliminate perfectly good games that only exist as overdumps etc. It will also sort things like language hacks (usually japanese games hacked into English) and other such useful roms. The beauty of it is that a simple "rename with dirs" will sort the roms into a series of directories that make it easy to select what you want to be available to your emulators.

[whatisk]

Could you not also use 'MAME Content Manager'?
It will rename the roms (or alternatively delete them) for you based on criteria from either the catver file or its own ini file.

You can also get it to create a batch file for you so that you don't have to run it there and then.

Link: http://www.mameworld.net/mcm/

[lokki]

I am a firm supporter of weeding-out crap.