E3* (Elec/Enter/Expo) Predictions over, Revolution NEWS!... ^. ?

[Otraotaku]

...recently i wanted to get away from the ranting on IGN's boards and bring it over here... ^.<

whats up you guys!, what do you think will happen with the officialy named X-box 360, the Mysterious Nintendo Revolution,and the forshadowed PS3 in their own repective corners at E3/05...

and also your overall expectations of each system..

[Otraotaku]

well, anyway, i believe that Nintendo Will be the biggest succes in the *long run*,

1: mainly because of its Fan base games.
 as well as the Amazing zelda Journey to come,

2: would have to be their Desire to make games more Interactive then they already are, DS may not have been the best at the moment but i believe their new system will make the difference!..

3: Backwards Compatibility, Yes Nintendo has released that they will have backwards compatibility for their new system. (maybe even Cartridges)

4:As much as we know about all three companys systems to be released, we know the Most few facts from Nintendo!... and only what we heard at last years E3, (that it would be something no one could imagine)

5: Finnally with the hardware they were able to make games look astonishing on the Gamecube they can definately have enough Power too even compete with the only thing PS3 and Xbox360 has to offer... graphics...

I believe this is going to be the most Anticipated System to look for!...
so keep your eyes peeled! ^.<

[pointdablame]

lol wow, care to turn the fanboy in ya off for a second?    I like Nintendo too, and I hope they bounce back after the lackluster success of Gamecube, but you're points are not very powerful as far as forming an argument.

well, anyway, i believe that Nintendo Will be the biggest succes in the *long run*,

1: mainly because of its Fan base games.
 as well as the Amazing zelda Journey to come,

They had Zelda on Gamecube too.   They had all their other first party games as well.  They need more than that, although I will totally admit, if and when I get a Revolution, it WILL be for first party games more than anything.

2: would have to be their Desire to make games more Interactive then they already are, DS may not have been the best at the moment but i believe their new system will make the difference!..

What do you mean exactly? Everyone wants to make their games "more interactive"  All 3 console companies want new ways for their games to garner people's attention.  I'd hardly call this a selling point for Nintendo.

3: Backwards Compatibility, Yes Nintendo has released that they will have backwards compatibility for their new system. (maybe even Cartridges)

It will NOT be compatible with cartridges.  I'll bet any money that Gamecube compatibility is likely, but cartridges have a 0% chance of happening.

4:As much as we know about all three companys systems to be released, we know the Most few facts from Nintendo!... and only what we heard at last years E3, (that it would be something no one could imagine)

You think Nintendo will be the best because we know the LEAST about it??  This just confuses me.

5: Finnally with the hardware they were able to make games look astonishing on the Gamecube they can definately have enough Power too even compete with the only thing PS3 and Xbox360 has to offer... graphics...

You've never seen either of these 3 systems, how can you say all PS3 and Xbox 360 have are graphics?  That's just fanboyism there, sorry.  PS2 and Xbox did not "beat" Nintendo this generation on graphics alone.

I believe this is going to be the most Anticipated System to look for!...
so keep your eyes peeled! ^.<

I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for all of em   I love the E3 before a new console generation.  There are always a ton of surprises, and a mess of info.  I hope all three systems come out of the gate strong.  It might make for a tough decision about what system to get first, but I wouldn't mind winding up with all of them at some point like I did this generation hahaha.

[hulkster]

yeah im a huge nintendo fanboy as well, but geez dude, that was a little over the top!  at least try to have an open mind about the whole console war! 

im in agreement with you that nintendo will have the most interesting console, but that doesnt mean it will be the best.  i think nintendo has the resources and game developers to be the best, but they havent been using that to their advantage as of late so only time will tell. 

im not too impressed by the xbox 360, mainly because its just a souped up version of the xbox.  i guess thats what some people look for...more power!....but i guess i want something a little different than your run of the mill super computer console.  graphics are sweet and all, but what about innovation?  the ps3 could wow people, for one just because of its fan base, but again, what are they going to offer that is different?  all 3 consoles will be powerful, but i want something that will definitely catch my eye.  so far the xbox has not done that.  its early, but i want to see something truly awesome....we havent seen anything from nintendo, but im expecting something pretty cool from them.  i just hope its not a "huge announcement" like the gamecube/gba connectivity.  that was totally retarded.  its a great year for gamers as a whole though!  i know i will be first in line for a revolution, but my second console will probably be decided upon price point and value.  im guessing the ps3 and xbox will cost around 300-400 bucks starting off, but the revolution will start at 200.  thats a big draw for a poor married guy like me.  what is everyone elses thoughts?  and please try not to fanboy me to death. 

[Otraotaku]

wel, i never umm... said best... thats just immature... i was going for the more Developed system to the futuristic age... Ive seen Xbox 360 btw... the system isnt that interesting in Design... (unless custom skin plates are a factor) plain and white... the graphics are all that hold it to peoples eyes...

and if you remmeber at E3 last year with the appearance of Nintendo's new Buisnessman Regie Fils Aime... he mentioned along with alot of other Nintendo Assoaciates (including Myamoto) that the Revolution would be something never done before! and im willing to bet on it that it will have more to offer than any system at E3 (if shown)

already Nintendo has an advantage over the Xbox360, And it hast even been officialy anounced yet! reason for this is...Microsof has been trying to advoid the question of backward combatibility...

(and as my status goes as a fan boy, i love Nintendos Quirky characters)... ^.<

but I still own a Respectable amount of games for Xbox, and not so much for PS2, but I am still an over average gamer... along with most of us on BYOAC,

[Otraotaku]

heres a good question? ,why isnt there a BYOAC(lol) /arcade stand at E3?


 LOL... we need to bring the Arcade Culture Back to the people....
we were all more social back then... ^.^

all i ever seen at E3 was for the most DDR.. >.<

[shmokes]

If all the consoles are just souped up versions of this generation's consoles, meaning same thing as before with more polygons, Sony will clean up again.  Xbox and Nintendo will battle for second place, but this year Nintendo might stand a chance in North America since this time Nintendo will have the more powerful hardware.  Microsoft has the 2nd generation of LIVE, though, with basic service provided free-of-charge.  LIVE was a risky and forward-thinking project for MS and it is going to pay off in spades.  Nintendo will have their own online service, but they are still wet behind the ears as far as online services go. 

Nintendo will still kill MS in Japan, but I think 360 will do better there than Xbox did.  So far we know this much:  Xbox360 is nothing but a souped up Xbox.  The controller is essentially identical (all controllers will be wireless this generation).  Sony and Nintendo will both have more powerful hardware, at least as capable of High Definition as Xbox360 -- so that hole HD Era thing is really just marketing buzzword stuff.  I still want one, but there's nothing revolutionary about it.  For me to actually buy one it will have to provide something desireable (more than Halo) that Sony and Nintendo won't be providing.  I won't be buying one at launch.

For Nintendo to beat Sony on either side of the ocean their system will truly have to introduce something that is not only revolutionary, but totally accessible to the general public.  And if it's too out-there they will be shooting themselves in the foot.  Their system has to function enough like a normal console to allow all the multi-platform games like Madden and Splinter Cell to be ported over or they're dead.  Nintendo cannot go it alone.  They have very strong in-house development teams but they need lots of 3rd party support. 

Are you listening Nintendo? ? ?     YOU NEED LOTS OF THIRD PARTY SUPPORT YOU DAFT ---daisies---!  And lets hope the majority of it doesn't shoot for 9 year olds, since the majority of gamers are adults.

Long story short.....Nintendo is nothing like a clear winner for the next generation.  It's a STEEP uphil battle for them.  I hope they pull it off, though.  Between the three companies they are by far my favorite.

[hulkster]

If all the consoles are just souped up versions of this generation's consoles, meaning same thing as before with more polygons, Sony will clean up again.

[CheffoJeffo]

My prediction is that for the umpteenth straight year, DNF previews will be featured at E3 and the game will still not released.

Safe bet ?

[hulkster]

My prediction is that for the umpteenth straight year, DNF previews will be featured at E3 and the game will still not released.

Safe bet ?

dnf?

[CheffoJeffo]

Duke Nukem Forever

aka

Did Not Finish

[pointdablame]

If the Xbox 360 is as mod-friendly as this generation, it will sell well, at least IMHO.  That was the selling point for me, and it just so happens that I wound up really liking the system and games as a whole.

I totally agree that Nintendo has the best first party stuff, but they need more exclusives from other companies, as people were saying.  I could have got a GC today and picked up all the good 1st party stuff for like 10 bux a game... that is not what Nintendo wants.

I hope they wow everyone at E3.. I'd like to see the return of Nintendo as a gaming powerhouse... its still odd thinking of them as "last place" in the gaming wars.

[shmokes]

Same.  I would not own an Xbox today if there weren't so many great features unlocked with a simple mod-chip.  And I have ended up liking the system quite a bit (though that may have something to do with the fact that I haven't paid for many of the games).  If media center capabilities aren't built-in to Xbox 360 from the start (and not just lame-ass media center extender that requires me to have a PC with Windows XP Media Center edition installed) then it can't even replace Xbox 1, let alone compete with Sony and Nintendo for my dollars.

[markrvp]

I think Nintendo blinked, similar to Sega and the Dreamcast.  Who expected the Sony Playstation to take over the market a decade and a half ago?

[shmokes]

It's especially ironic and comical when you hear about the history of where the Playstation came from.  Sony originally made a CDROM add-on for the Super Nintendo, but Nintendo cancelled it at the last minute.  From what I understand, the order was cancelled so late that it really screwed Sony because a lot of money had already gone into its development.

Ken Kataguri (or whatever his name is) at Sony pitched the idea of making a console.  Much of the work had already been done and a lot of money had already been spent on the project.  Had it not been for this the project would likely never have been greenlighted.  5 years later and Playstation made up over half of Sony's profits.  More than every other devision (including consumer electronics) combined.

Nintendo created Playstation.

[Zero_Hour]

My predictions:

Way too much Hype.

The same prerendered screenshots on all the gaming sites.

Quotes from a whole bunch of people I've never heard of, nor care about.

Announced release dates that will inevitable be pushed back numerous times.

In short, the same old, same old.

Oh yeah, and Duke Nukem Forgotten finally gets a ship date. 

[hulkster]

well all this talk of nintendo stuff got me curious...so i went looking around on the net.  and apparently a lot of people dont think nintendo will show the new console at all!!! the general consensus is that nintendo will just show a montage of video from the console, but no pics of the actual revolution....gay!  it wouldnt surprise me...and ill be really disappointed. 

[tommy]

It seems Nintendo has something really great or really ehh ok in the works, i'd bet on great.

Mark this post down as something great**

[shmokes]

I'm just hoping that MS and Sony announce a pricedrop for the current-gen systems at E3.  I've been telling my brothers to hold off on buying (and having me mod) xboxes for the last three months in anticipation of an E3 pricedrop.  Now I'm not so sure as Microsoft has told Nvidia to stop producing graphics chips for the Xbox as they will not accept any past August.

[teef two]

EA Sports will announce they have tied up every single sporting franchise in the World, except curling, for the next 20 years and you'll have no choice but to play their games for EVER MwuuHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[RayB]

We can't predict these things... you never know what "killer apps" will come out later in the life cycle, or what. E3 is all hype.

But here's what I do know...

Nintendo made a big mistake with that nasty Fisher Price toy they call a controller (for GameCube). I honestly hate that thing. When I consider purchasing a game that's out on both PS2 or GameCube, I usually opt for the PS2 version because I like the controller better, and that's despite the fact that the Cube version of the game usually will have better graphics. Let's hope they make a decent controller this time.

Nintendo mistake #2 in my opinion is releasing the console last AGAIN. They were late out of the gate with the 'Cube, and now they are repeating that mistake. I understand if their launch games are not ready, they can't sell the console, but that's their mistake. Backward compatibility though helps alot. But they are already #3 with the cube, so ... it's still a catch-up game.

PS3: Looks cool, SOUNDS cool. Wireless controllers are a must--way to go Sony. System specs are awesome. Backward compatibility means keeping much of the fanbase. They will have a strong hold on their #1 position.

Xbox: I know too little of it. I like the design of it, but not being a fan of the existing Xbox, I can't say much.

[GGKoul]

Xbox knows the only way they can make grounds against the PS3 is too release it early.  Sure they will sell thousands of Xbox360s at Christmas time.  But I know I won't be purchasing a Xbox360 again unless there is a modchip for it.

[Otraotaku]

If all the consoles are just souped up versions of this generation's consoles, meaning same thing as before with more polygons, Sony will clean up again.  Xbox and Nintendo will battle for second place, but this year Nintendo might stand a chance in North America since this time Nintendo will have the more powerful hardware.  Microsoft has the 2nd generation of LIVE, though, with basic service provided free-of-charge.  LIVE was a risky and forward-thinking project for MS and it is going to pay off in spades.  Nintendo will have their own online service, but they are still wet behind the ears as far as online services go. 

Nintendo will still kill MS in Japan, but I think 360 will do better there than Xbox did.  So far we know this much:  Xbox360 is nothing but a souped up Xbox.  The controller is essentially identical (all controllers will be wireless this generation).  Sony and Nintendo will both have more powerful hardware, at least as capable of High Definition as Xbox360 -- so that hole HD Era thing is really just marketing buzzword stuff.  I still want one, but there's nothing revolutionary about it.  For me to actually buy one it will have to provide something desireable (more than Halo) that Sony and Nintendo won't be providing.  I won't be buying one at launch.

For Nintendo to beat Sony on either side of the ocean their system will truly have to introduce something that is not only revolutionary, but totally accessible to the general public.  And if it's too out-there they will be shooting themselves in the foot.  Their system has to function enough like a normal console to allow all the multi-platform games like Madden and Splinter Cell to be ported over or they're dead.  Nintendo cannot go it alone.  They have very strong in-house development teams but they need lots of 3rd party support. 

Are you listening Nintendo? ? ?     YOU NEED LOTS OF THIRD PARTY SUPPORT YOU DAFT ---daisies---!  And lets hope the majority of it doesn't shoot for 9 year olds, since the majority of gamers are adults.

Long story short.....Nintendo is nothing like a clear winner for the next generation.  It's a STEEP uphil battle for them.  I hope they pull it off, though.  Between the three companies they are by far my favorite.

wow, VERY well said sir.  nintendo cant do it alone.  they definitely have the best first party games, but that doesnt make  a system deep by any means.  waiting for the next mario, zelda, metroid is just too few games to wait for.  when something comes out about the new madden or whatever, nintendo fans should be getting excited as well.  nintendo has all the tools to pull it off, but yes it will be a big climb for them.  the revolution will really need to be different if it wants attention.  i dont think the new xbox will sell well except for the uber nerds who have to have another pc with a gamepad.  time will tell though.

yeah your right, Nintendo by far has the Best First Party games, the only thing thou that kills them is their Development team... is it truly their fault that they spend so much time on a game to Fuly polish it... unlike games that are pushed out for the PS2 + Xbox faster than a year and... *cough* cough* e'nuf said...

[Otraotaku]

PS3: Looks cool, SOUNDS cool. Wireless controllers are a must--way to go Sony. System specs are awesome. Backward compatibility means keeping much of the fanbase. They will have a strong hold on their #1 position.

Dont forget that nintendo was the first Official Company to come out with a Wireless controller... ^.<

[Otraotaku]

I also wanted to add, to all those who think some Nintendo games are for kids, and somehow developed a steriotype out of it,.... IGN voted The Legend of Zelda Game of the year, I forget what year, but i should have that Mag around here to proove it... ^.< also refered to as CELDA... ^.<

I know alot of people who didnt even attempt to play the amazing Adventure Windwaker had to offer for a Zelda game just because of nintendo's new approach...

IT Just sickens me to hear that, Just because some/we/they think Characters like mario are immature for others to play, then what were you playing back in the 80's!?! or even when the N64 was the biggest craze.... I know everyone here who had a SNES Loved to play Super Mario World,... Truth is like Smokhes Mentioned, nintendo Raised us all... so....
would any of those tittles include?.... (MARIO KART, MARIO 64,DONKEY KONG,)  And maybe Even POKEMON???....

So no matter who you are or what youve played, I guarentee youve played these classics before, and Darn Well Liked Them!...


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on another topic, what do you guys think about the games that Rushed out so fast for the X-box and PS2, Gamecube? heres a few of the worst Dissapointments this year From Major Titles that i know of from experience...

#1.Doom3 ,If you havent played this yet your going to be disapointed when you do, The game was so Graphics Oreinted when developed that they did not have enough Creatures to battle before it got repetative... nice graphics eh? but wheres the fun...It took years of anticipation for this?

#2.Halo 2, Okay finnaly they introduce online play and you can die instanly as soon as you log on... yay... bad combat balancing... (since when does a single pistol still out play every weapon?) ( i mean i kill banshees with the damn thing!)
Worst Ending i could have ever imagined for this game... for the amount of fan base this game has anyone can tell you how horrible it ended... honest!

#3.Grandtheft Auto San Andreas, still running on the same Graphics Engine... yay... I can kill more black peple with a Cap and go chill out while i get fat, and even Fatter playing the game... Ill tell you after I got alf way through it, (after the Drive bys with 4 ppl) I decided that its just not worth playing Rockstars Pitifal bundles of boredom n'e more ,I dont like to go do delevery missions when the gameplay in this game is some of the basis for many(Rather play a fantasy game)

#4.Mario Party 5-6-7, As Much as I enjoyed the first 2 on the N64, Years ago! is Nintendo going to stop this Insane Waste of a Development Team, i mean they can be doing better things... maybe I should go get hired as a Lead software Engineer and set things right! I mean all they do is create new things to do on the same modes of gameplay and same models, Over,and over again... as Swartzenager would say... "COME ON"...

[RayB]

Don't be so jaded Orataku...

I've been enjoying San Andreas for months now (I'm the type of gamer who plays every now and then and alternates between games. I don't believe in spending a whole day and night on one game, cuz then you're just playing for the sake of playing). So I'm about 50% through right now (just got to the desert area).

I SKIPPED Vice City because it was too much like GTA3, but San Andreas seems to offer alot more. The driving physics are still fantastic (try playing other games like Mercenaries or the Getaway and you really come to appreciate the car physics of the GTA series). The game is a little more like a gangster "rpg", without getting too deep. Let's just say the amount of detail and variety is amazing, and that's just in the first part you've played. You haven't even made it to the other cities and areas, by the sounds of it. Just do the missions instead of doing drive-bys.

[Tailgunner]

Truth is like Smokhes Mentioned, nintendo Raised us all... so....

Some of us remember when the only video games came in these huge cabinets, and you had to put money into them to play the games.

[Otraotaku]

I was Watching E3's newest Updates and Revolution will be shown!... not on the floor, and I was right!!!!!

It willl be Backwards compatible from every system from NES to Gamecube... reported at 5PM, Eastern Standard, on May 18th...


Hahaha,Point the blame else where.... ^.<

, and last night they also showed a very tiny GBA, that is so small its amazing... ^.<

http://gamesdomain.yahoo.com/feature/116816

[Otraotaku]

well, G4 said it was backwards compatible from NES to Gamecube, but yahoo sates that each will be downloadable... dunno...

either way its gotten me more excited... ^.<

[RayB]

Backward compatible with Gamecube DISCS, but NES, SNES, and N64 games will be downloads available through their online service.

[Otraotaku]

yeah, i was also wrong about the xbox hiding the fact that it will be backwards compatible... i dont know why they were advoiding this info before???

[shmokes]

I'm getting the impression that Nintendo is going with a machine far less powerful than the Xbox 360 or PS3.  Nintendo has decided that it cannot compete with MS and Sony head-on.  They will try to stay out of their way and make due with their low-priced niche.  That's sad. 

[pointdablame]

I was Watching E3's newest Updates and Revolution will be shown!... not on the floor, and I was right!!!!!

It willl be Backwards compatible from every system from NES to Gamecube... reported at 5PM, Eastern Standard, on May 18th...


Hahaha,Point the blame else where.... ^.<

, and last night they also showed a very tiny GBA, that is so small its amazing... ^.<

http://gamesdomain.yahoo.com/feature/116816

No no no, you can play your Gamecube games... but they are giving you the distinct pleasure of BUYING ALL YOUR OLD GAMES AGAIN.  No thanks Nintendo, I already bought them for NES... then again for GameBoy... and some more with the Card Reader.... and then..... get my picture?


And that small gameboy.... who would want to play on that?  I just don't get it.

[RayB]

No no no, you can play your Gamecube games... but they are giving you the distinct pleasure of BUYING ALL YOUR OLD GAMES AGAIN.

[Otraotaku]

well, G4 said it was backwards compatible from NES to Gamecube, but yahoo sates that each will be downloadable... dunno...

either way its gotten me more excited... ^.<

i think you may have overlooked this point_da_blame... but still you can play what was once before a cartidge so in FACT I predicted right... as for the comment by Smokhes... Ninendo felt real proud that they anounced not having any trouble competeing with their other Competitors, and saturo said that when you see its graphics you will say WoW... ^.<

[Otraotaku]

i know theres been too much talk about the revolution on this thread,

what did you guys think about the Xbox360? I thought it didnt advance much "as of yet"... it looked like a slightly better Xbox, cause lets face it Xbox's graphics look great as it is now!...
Myabe they'll get more into the hardware later this year and hype up the systems over all performance...but over all their games Ive sen were looked great and were actualy in playable form... but WHY a VERTICAL chassis!?!?!

Now everyone was expecting sony to release its PS3, now theres not much to judge on cause nothing was playable... or maybe not even gameplay? (we all know how much time sony puts into its prerenderd footage, and not the gameplay) but i was amazed that they took it this far, they really needed to get rid of the PS2 its been around longer than any console in the previous generation... as for the look, WHY VERTICAL!?!?!

And to comment on nintendo's , Why VERTICAL!?!?! Why Not Reveal any INFO???!?! An why no Revolution DEMO's on floor!?! No PREVIEW of their online Service... No Demo of their hardwares capabilitys, and most inportant... WHeres the  controller???

not sharing their development on the first day with the fans, makes you wonder what the hell they are upto?

[RayB]

And to comment on nintendo's , Why VERTICAL!?!?! Why Not Reveal any INFO???!?! An why no Revolution DEMO's on floor!?! No PREVIEW of their online Service... No Demo of their hardwares capabilitys, and most inportant... WHeres the

[pointdablame]

well, G4 said it was backwards compatible from NES to Gamecube, but yahoo sates that each will be downloadable... dunno...

either way its gotten me more excited... ^.<

i think you may have overlooked this point_da_blame... but still you can play what was once before a cartidge so in FACT I predicted right... as for the comment by Smokhes... Ninendo felt real proud that they anounced not having any trouble competeing with their other Competitors, and saturo said that when you see its graphics you will say WoW... ^.<

I'm not really sure what I overlooked. You said it'd be backwards compatible with cartridges.  Its not.  You can play old games... if you buy them again.  Not really backwards compatibility, now is it?  And yes they will be downloadable.... if you give Nintendo money for them

[RayB]

Why would they go through the hassle and extra costs of making their system compatible with 3 other hardware cartridge formats when they can do it cheaply via emulation? And why would they do that if all it enables is for people to go to the junk store and buy $5 carts which they get no profit from? OR for that matter, why would they do that and then have it limited to whatever old used stuff is out there... Do you know how hard to find alot of games are now? All this would make zero business sense. OF COURSE THEY WANT YOU TO "RE-PURCHASE" THE OLD GAMES.

If you have a collection of old cartridges, then you probably have an old console too. Why would you even need the Revolution to play those old carts?! Makes no sense to me. Obviously the consumer that they are targetting is those ones who DON'T have those old games anymore.

[pointdablame]

Why would they go through the hassle and extra costs of making their system compatible with 3 other hardware cartridge formats when they can do it cheaply via emulation? And why would they do that if all it enables is for people to go to the junk store and buy $5 carts which they get no profit from? OR for that matter, why would they do that and then have it limited to whatever old used stuff is out there... Do you know how hard to find alot of games are now? All this would make zero business sense. OF COURSE THEY WANT YOU TO "RE-PURCHASE" THE OLD GAMES.

If you have a collection of old cartridges, then you probably have an old console too. Why would you even need the Revolution to play those old carts?! Makes no sense to me. Obviously the consumer that they are targetting is those ones who DON'T have those old games anymore.

You're missing my point entirely.  I agree with what you are saying, but they should not be touting this as backwards compatibility.  Reggie himself has said Revolution will be "backwards compatible" with 20 years of Nintendo games.

No it wont.

Backwards compatibility is the ability of a console to read/play/execute older formats.  I can put a PS1 disc into my PS2 and it will play.

If I have to re-buy Nintendo games on the Revolution, that is EMULATION.  You may think its semantics, but it's really not.  There is a huge difference, and it only seems to me as a way to make us rebuy games we've bought dozens of times already.

Xbox seems the same way.  They are saying only top selling games will be "backwards compatible" but you'll need a special recompiled version.  If this proves true, are they going to give that away for free? No.. we'll be buying Halo all over again.  That is a port, or emulations, or whatever you'd like to label it as... but it is clearly NOT backwards compatibility.

As far as making profit, that IS NOT THE POINT of backwards compatiblitiy.  PS2 did it to enhance their initial library of games with their back catalog, and as a "perk" to their consumers.  They realize that it is nice for us as consumers to use one system to play older games.

Obviously, Nintendo isn't going to put in a NES/SNES/N64 cartridge slot on the Revolution.  We all know that, and know why.  That is all well and good, but don't call it backwards compatibility