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Author Topic: LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!  (Read 3712 times)

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LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« on: November 20, 2002, 06:44:06 pm »
I get to the part where it says "updating your system..." then nothing happens. I ctrl+alt+dlt and it has Visual Basic 6.0 not responding.

I tried several times. no good.  :'(

man, I have bad luck with this FE.  :P


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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2002, 12:06:46 am »
I have the exact same problem  ???

I've read the primer, but still can't get it installed on Windows 98SE.

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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2002, 12:39:24 am »
Ok, I ran RegMon while I tried installing Laz 4.0 and here's what I got.  When the setup hang, the last entry is the RegMon log was:

"OpenKey   HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Multimedia\ActiveMovieFilters\MPEG Decoder     NotFound"

Is there another piece of software or update I'm missing?

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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2002, 02:04:20 am »
I had the same problem on Win98se. Lazarus replaced my original msdxm.ocx with an updated one which I think caused the problem and broke mplayer2.exe. I just replaced the lazarus msdxm.ocx in c:\windows\system with an original from another win98 box, and then commented out the lines to install this file in Setup.lst

I haven't had a chance to see if everything works yet, but the install didn't hang and mplayer works again.

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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2002, 04:41:10 am »
Damn. YES, I am using Win98 SE also...

HOward, you getting this???

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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2002, 09:40:53 am »
I've got the same problem with my system....not much to offer for a solution but just wanted to let Howard know that it is more than an isolated case.

Hopefully I can get this sorted out because this FE looks awesome!

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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2002, 10:19:41 am »
Ok here's the deal...... vb's installer is bad, very bad.  But right now I have no other choice as the install is way to complex to do it via a bat.  

Something I assumed you all realized but apparently not.  I code on a XP machine..... if you are running anything less than XP and it prompts you do overwrite a file DO NOT let it overwrite.  It has the xp dll and thus will not run on the 98 machine.  As I said the vb installer is stupid.... it came out before xp or 2000 were even thought of.  

Now the question..... Why don't i make a 98 install?  Well because I don't have a machine running 98 (98 sucks I got rid of it as soon as I could)  and thus have no way of knowing the differences.  

If someone who is running 98 can successfully replace the files, simply send the changed one's to me and I'll make a 98 cab file.  Or alternativley I can remove the offending dlls all together, but that means you will be required to install the latest version of windows media player or whatever other dependancies as well.    

I apologize to anyone who can't get it to run, but remember this is a hobby and I only personally care about getting it to run on my system.  Although I do my best to make sure it still runs on 98se I'm not going to loose any sleep wondering if it does. :)

As davwil said you can always comment out or delete entries in the setup.lst that are giving your system heck.  You guys might wnat to try installing wmp again and then installing laz again minus the msdxm.ocx

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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2002, 11:04:31 am »

Something I assumed you all realized but apparently not.  I code on a XP machine..... if you are running anything less than XP

Howard,

 I have tried without sucess to install it on XP. I get a "Shockwave" error and when complete I have no install and my taskbar completely disappears. Only way to fix it is to reboot? I'd really like to try your FE!!!!


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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2002, 11:09:42 am »

Something I assumed you all realized but apparently not.  I code on a XP machine..... if you are running anything less than XP

Howard,

 I have tried without sucess to install it on XP. I get a "Shockwave" error and when complete I have no install and my taskbar completely disappears. Only way to fix it is to reboot? I'd really like to try your FE!!!!

do you have the latest shockwave on your machine...it is required for theplugin to work.
altenratively you can disable the 3d plugin...
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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2002, 11:13:16 am »
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do you have the latest shockwave on your machine...it is required for theplugin to work.
altenratively you can disable the 3d plugin...
peter

Thanks I'll check tonight.


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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2002, 01:16:49 pm »
Lazarus = Windows XP Only

it works also on my win98se box...just don't let the instsaller replace your win98 specific dll's with xp versions.

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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2002, 10:38:33 pm »
I never even get prompted to replace any dll's...it just locks up on me.

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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2002, 11:02:54 pm »
My install didn't ask to replace any dlls either.  I replaced the msdsm.ocx from another Windows 98SE box.  Then I edited the lsetup.lst file and deleted the line that installed that file.  Re-ran the setup for Laz and everything works like a champ.  Thanks for your help Davwil!!

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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2002, 09:49:07 am »
I finally got this installed on a Win98 machine as well.  Here's what I did:

1 - uninstall Lazarus
2 - deleted msdxm.ocx from \Windows\System
3 - reinstalled Windows Media Player 7 (which installs and registers msdxm.ocx)
4 - edited the setup.lst to remove the line that installs msdxm.ocx
5 - installed Lazarus

I didn't have another computer with a working copy of msdxm.ocx, so I couldn't just copy it over, but the above worked.  

Forgive my ignorance, but would it not be possible to replace the msdxm.ocx file in the Lazarus.cab with the Win98 version and make two versions available for download?  I don't even know if that would work, or what it would take to make it happen, but it is just an idea.  

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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2002, 10:59:46 am »
No that wont work as the xp dll searches for other dependancies which makes no sense but I have to deal with.  

Most likely I will remove the dll and do some error handling so that it doesn't complain that this dll isn't included.  As you said it's part of wmp so It shouldn't hurt to remove it.  

I have a new patch due out soon, that fixes a few bugs and adds the option to have a titles list.  When I release it I will re-edit the setup install so that this dll is skipped over.  

I appreciate all of you tracking down this problem for me.  It's very difficult to make something work on multiple platforms when You only use one of them.  :)

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Re:LAZARUS 4.0- Won't Install!!
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2002, 12:11:55 pm »
Well, I guess I showed what little I know about software development....I'm glad that I managed to stumble into a solution for myself at least.

Thanks for making some efforts to make this program work for as many people as possible.