so, things I've learnt... the plastic I wanted to us for the overlay, took one hit from the router, ripped to shreds, and melted up.... so basically it's tough as nails as long as there is zero heat... I tried cutting it with an exacto, but no luck, so i got a piece of plexi and cut that out instead, and i gotta say it went pretty smooth. Now i just need to do one more cote of paint tomorrow, and then wait for my artwork to arrive... oh and a little aside, a friend of mine comes over today, and says so, what's game ya gonna play on that? considering he knows it's gonna be Turtles all over it... I thought of banning him from area for the day. I