Author Topic: Discussion: Ultracade and the Mame Trademark (Read 126251 times)

Crazy Cooter · « **Reply #200 on:** February 21, 2005, 08:54:40 pm »

We'll want to keep this on topic though. This is about taking the MAME name, not emulation itself (yet). That battle was already fought once with Bleem!

1UP · « **Reply #201 on:** February 21, 2005, 09:13:16 pm »

Quote from: Patent Doc on February 21, 2005, 07:18:00 pm

OK

I'm almost finished with my spewing on trademarks.

KevSteele · « **Reply #202 on:** February 21, 2005, 09:35:13 pm »

Well, I'm not taking any chances...

Kevin Steele^(tm)[/sup]

Daniel270 · « **Reply #203 on:** February 21, 2005, 09:41:54 pm »

I just hope this doesn't change future token releases... not to mention future revisions of Saint's book!

RetroJames · « **Reply #204 on:** February 21, 2005, 09:48:50 pm »

Quote from: KevSteele on February 21, 2005, 09:35:13 pm

Well, I'm not taking any chances...

Kevin Steele^(tm)[/sup]

Me Neither -

ahem...

Midway Multi-Williams Omega Mame (TM)
Moon Patrol MultiGame (TM)
Sean's Controller (TM) (Owned and enforceable by Sean)
Sydney, my daughter...(TM)(C)(PAT PEND) [Also see; "Two Guys in A Shiny Black Car" Protection Agency]

Gunstar Hero · « **Reply #205 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:13:50 pm »

My new trademark...

"Mr. Ultracade (TM)"

Let's see how he likes that!

Ahem...

My heart is at ease knowing that the MAMEteam knows about this and is going to challenge it. There is no way Mr. Ultracade (TM) can beat that. Besides, let's be honest, this thing is viral. If he managed to get the name MAME for his very own, the same program would be back with a new name in about 12 seconds. Too may people have too much data for Mr. Ultracade (TM) to be able to do a damn thing about it.

1UP · « **Reply #206 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:14:09 pm »

Yup, that's exactly what I've been doing since I started my corporate site.

1UP · « **Reply #207 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:15:52 pm »

Quote from: Gunstar Hero on February 21, 2005, 10:13:50 pm

My new trademark...

"Mr. Ultracade (TM)"

Let's see how he likes that!

Ahem...

My heart is at ease knowing that the MAMEteam knows about this and is going to challenge it. There is no way Mr. Ultracade (TM) can beat that.

mahuti · « **Reply #208 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:19:58 pm »

I always thought MAME was a lame name anyway. Good time to change it.

Gunstar Hero · « **Reply #209 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:21:13 pm »

I am sick of that damn logo...

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #210 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:47:07 pm »

Here's a few interesting posts with contact information:

mame.net thread 1

mame.net thread 2

http://hotlinks.blogspot.com/2005/02/games-arcade-kit-seller-applies-for.html

Crazy Cooter · « **Reply #211 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:56:32 pm »

So now what is the best way to get the word out on Ultracade (besides what he has done to himself

Goz · « **Reply #212 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:59:12 pm »

Quote from: Crazy Cooter on February 21, 2005, 10:56:32 pm

So now what is the best way to get the word out on Ultracade (besides what he has done to himself )? Can we start a "ribbon" campaign with a shredded logo? Start calling it Ultracon? How do those farse sites get away with making fun of things? We really should keep the newcomers away from his product.

Has anyone applied for ultracade & had his ebay auctions pulled? Just wondering... I'd like to see how his distributors are taking all of this.

If somthing like this gets done, make sure it has more META tags than ULTRACADE has that way it is #1 in the search engines

-Goz

Tommy Boy · « **Reply #213 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:03:48 pm »

How about a new name that's more audacious. The Ultimate Arcade Emulator: Ulti-cade^TM

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #214 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:05:45 pm »

I missed this before:
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=76627578
That's the application on the US Gov. web site
It says:

Quote

Current Status: Newly filed application, not yet assigned to an examining attorney.

Date of Status: 2005-01-28

Filing Date: 2005-01-11

Transformed into a National Application: No

..and there's a ton of info over at slashdot:
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/21/0415209&tid=203&tid=17&tid=10

JODY · « **Reply #215 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:09:21 pm »

His other company is Hyperware. Seems he's into hype.

romperwomb · « **Reply #216 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:10:45 pm »

Found this in the /. posts taken from Foley's personal site, which appears to be down: http://www.davidrfoley.com/. Thought his own words should come back and haunt him.

A poem by David R Foley

The Drowning Man

You can never teach
The drowning man to swim.
As long as he is in the water,
All he can do is flail,
And try and not sink.
Eventually he will tire.

Throw him a line.
Tell him a story.
Tell him it will be okay.
Convince yourself
That it is okay to lie.

You know that he really isn't okay.
You know that he can't swim.
And, you know,
If he stays in the water,
Eventually he will die.

D. Foley, 1997

DarkKobold · « **Reply #217 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:13:57 pm »

Man, this just keeps getting me angrier and angrier. He has a 2 page verbatim as to why he is doing this.... It reads well actually.

There is one problem. IT IS NOT HIS!!!! wow. Seriously. UGHHHHH.

DarkKobold · « **Reply #218 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:16:25 pm »

This reminds me. There are 20 some ultracade auctions on ebay right now. Since VERO always takes the side of the complainer, anyone care to go through and claim that every auction infringes on their intellectual property? Fightin' fire with fire!!!

krick · « **Reply #219 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:30:04 pm »

Quote from: KevSteele on February 21, 2005, 09:35:13 pm

Well, I'm not taking any chances...

Kevin Steele^(tm)[/sup]

I know you're joking but Billy Joel registered his name as a trademark in the '80s.

Go HERE and try searching for "billy joel".

Witchboard · « **Reply #220 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:31:05 pm »

I don't think anyone here will be stooping to his level.

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #221 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:34:11 pm »

Quote from: DarkKobold on February 21, 2005, 11:16:25 pm

This reminds me. There are 20 some ultracade auctions on ebay right now.

HEY!! You are RIGHT!!!
That would be so sad if people started doing "Buy It Now" on all of the Ultracades with no intent to actually buy

itismejs · « **Reply #222 on:** February 22, 2005, 12:00:34 am »

Quote from: IntruderAlert on February 21, 2005, 11:34:11 pm

Quote from: DarkKobold on February 21, 2005, 11:16:25 pm
This reminds me. There are 20 some ultracade auctions on ebay right now.
HEY!! You are RIGHT!!!
That would be so sad if people started doing "Buy It Now" on all of the Ultracades with no intent to actually buy

How would this effect dave...these machines are already sold to distributers...?

RetroJames · « **Reply #223 on:** February 22, 2005, 12:09:39 am »

<voice of reason>

I would refrain from any malicious acts on him personally, his business, or other interests. The MameDevs and the person (goes by the moniker "Chemical" I am told) who created the logo have the ball now. This issue will be settled with lawyers, not tomatoes.

While DF has, IMHO made an tactical error in his stated attempt to combat unfair trade practices in regards to multigame systems, I will give him the benefit of the doubt until this plays out.

I just don't like the idea of sabatoging a guy's interests without all the facts. I personally think email and letters to him stating your opinion as well as the other legal notices discussed here are reasonable. Hate-mail and other harassment are not IMHO.

</voice of reason>

SirPoonga · « **Reply #224 on:** February 22, 2005, 12:11:34 am »

I have to congradulate you all. We kept this post pretty civil. Didn;t have to lock it, yet.

I think right now everything has been said and we just need to wait to see what the next action is.

danny_galaga · « **Reply #225 on:** February 22, 2005, 12:54:49 am »

while i think they are tossers for trying to trademark the MAME logo, i have said before in other threads that if enough people abuse the priviledge of MAME by selling ROMS left, right and centre then someone is going to get shirty and crack down on it. never thought it would be anyone other than and original manufacturer though!! but there you go.

mahuti · « **Reply #226 on:** February 22, 2005, 01:09:50 am »

Buncha shirty tossers.

Bones · « **Reply #227 on:** February 22, 2005, 01:35:23 am »

This is sooooo funny.

Anybody that plans on buying a arcade-play-it-all machine is going to do some research, if for the only reason is to check they are getting a fair deal. I doubt the buying population is completely clueless.

You can guarantee that anyone new who does a search is going to come across this, or similar postings on other newsgroups all showing disgust at Mr Ultracade

Goz · « **Reply #228 on:** February 22, 2005, 01:38:13 am »

Maybe he recieved some marketing advice from Mr. C's former boss.

-Goz

menace · « **Reply #229 on:** February 22, 2005, 07:28:15 am »

Quote

You can guarantee that anyone new who does a search is going to come across this, or similar postings on other newsgroups all showing disgust at Mr Ultracade

PaulG · « **Reply #230 on:** February 22, 2005, 07:42:26 am »

In the completely bizarre scenario where they actually lost use of the name: My choice for replacement: GAME (TM)

General Arcade Machine Emulator (TM)

KevSteele · « **Reply #231 on:** February 22, 2005, 07:49:28 am »

Quote from: PaulG on February 22, 2005, 07:42:26 am

In the completely bizarre scenario where they actually lost use of the name:

KevSteele · « **Reply #232 on:** February 22, 2005, 07:54:38 am »

Quote from: krick on February 21, 2005, 11:30:04 pm

Quote from: KevSteele on February 21, 2005, 09:35:13 pm
Well, I'm not taking any chances...

Kevin Steele^(tm)[/sup]

I know you're joking but Billy Joel registered his name as a trademark in the '80s.

Go HERE and try searching for "billy joel".

I'm only partially joking - I have placed Trademark symbols on the phrase "RetroBlast!" on my site, as well as claimed the phrase as my trademark on my "About" page.

This situation pointed out that I had a valuable asset (my site's name) just sitting out there, unprotected.

As to my own name, well, I'm already too late to get http://www.kevinsteele.com, so what's the point?

shawnzilla · « **Reply #233 on:** February 22, 2005, 08:25:06 am »

I 100% agree.

Quote from: SirPoonga on February 22, 2005, 12:11:34 am

I have to congradulate you all. We kept this post pretty civil. Didn;t have to lock it, yet.

I think right now everything has been said and we just need to wait to see what the next action is.

Minwah · « **Reply #234 on:** February 22, 2005, 08:30:07 am »

Quote from: 1hookedspacecadet on February 22, 2005, 12:09:39 am

I just don't like the idea of sabatoging a guy's interests without all the facts. I personally think email and letters to him stating your opinion as well as the other legal notices discussed here are reasonable. Hate-mail and other harassment are not IMHO.

Personally I think he deserves anything he gets (tho I think hacking his website could be more fun than hate mail

). What he has done is not reasonable IMHO.

I'm still waiting for him to email me regarding my FE's logo - he'd better be quick I'm leaving the country very soon

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #235 on:** February 22, 2005, 09:18:49 am »

Quote from: itismejs on February 22, 2005, 12:00:34 am

Quote from: IntruderAlert on February 21, 2005, 11:34:11 pm
Quote from: DarkKobold on February 21, 2005, 11:16:25 pm
This reminds me. There are 20 some ultracade auctions on ebay right now.
HEY!! You are RIGHT!!!
That would be so sad if people started doing "Buy It Now" on all of the Ultracades with no intent to actually buy
How would this effect dave...these machines are already sold to distributers...?

It would prevent the Ultracades from actually being sold on ebay
the same thing that David R. Foley is trying to do to the MAME machines

..but I was only joking. anyway

Crazy Cooter · « **Reply #236 on:** February 22, 2005, 09:42:37 am »

That could jeopardize your ebay account.

Goz · « **Reply #237 on:** February 22, 2005, 10:30:21 am »

Quote from: menace on February 22, 2005, 07:28:15 am

Quote
You can guarantee that anyone new who does a search is going to come across this, or similar postings on other newsgroups all showing disgust at Mr Ultracade

RayB · « **Reply #238 on:** February 22, 2005, 10:34:42 am »

Google isn't that easy to fool. The page content itself has to be relevant, and then the number of links to this page from other sites also matters.

Santoro · « **Reply #239 on:** February 22, 2005, 10:40:43 am »

So let's create a site that tells the truth about this trademeark theft, then everyone on the board with a web page could link to it. We should be able to get a few hundered pages linking to it without much problem.

Or, we could all just link to this thread!


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