Author Topic: Tempest (Read 7292 times)

JODY · « **on:** February 05, 2005, 09:57:28 pm »

First off let me say thanks to KSKID for the cab.

flampoo · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2005, 10:29:45 pm »

MAME it. Slap on a 4p cp. Cover the sides with Donkey Kong art and give it a "MAMECADE" marquee. Put cup holders and gun holsters on each side. But make sure you don't use a monitor any larger than 17".

JODY · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2005, 11:00:28 pm »

I may follow the monitor suggestion (only if it won't take a 19" without major remodeling) but all the rest are out.

Were you by any chance bidding against me for the cone buttons?

RetroJames · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2005, 11:03:18 pm »

Sure would be sweet to see that comeback to life...

JODY · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2005, 11:13:38 pm »

Here's a link to the free cab http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,30754.msg259919.html#msg259919 that started this.

The cab is gutted. Will have to look to see what will need to be added or replaced to get the marquee lit and if the speaker is usable.

ericball · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2005, 12:57:51 pm »

Check out http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,27282.0.html for a list of games which can be played using the original Tempest controls. I'm planning on doing a similar thing with the Tempest cab I rescued - put in a vertical 19" XVGA monitor and limit myself to the original CP.

And if I can figure out some way of mapping the spinner to 2 buttons then there are a bunch more games (like Galaga).

Gunstar Hero · « **Reply #6 on:** February 06, 2005, 01:47:20 pm »

That cab looks clean.

If you're going to MAME it I don't think it's a crime to add a stick/trackball/whatever, but you MUST have a spinner so the cab can play it's proper game again.

Man, I'd love to have a cab like that pop up near me.

JODY · « **Reply #7 on:** February 06, 2005, 02:20:35 pm »

Ericball, thanks for the link. Looks like you took some flak for using a classic cab for Mame. I'm doing the same thing. The cab I got has a little water damage on one side, but it isn't bad. The monitor was taken out to fix another Tempest cab that was in better shape.

I'm not going to do anything to the exterior that isn't 100% reversable, but whether we like it or not we all must come to grips with the fact that someday those vector monitors will no longer function. Mame is all about preserving the old games. I'm giving the cab a good home and it will be used to play the classics. I've got four kids that I know will have a good time on it.

The artwork is great and I'm not going to cut any holes in the original control panel. May put a different panel on it at some point to give it greater functionality. Would be kind of neat to create a panel that has artwork like the original but add a joystick or two and a few more buttons.

SuperGunGuru · « **Reply #8 on:** February 06, 2005, 08:38:27 pm »

Nice cab.

Paladin · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2005, 01:41:02 am »

I restored a Tempest and it cost me just under $1,000 all together:
http://home.comcast.net/~dark.paladin/tempest

My current project is another Tempest cab, but I definately can't afford to restore this one - so it's going to be a vertical MAME cab. The control panel on mine was already filled with extra holes, so it's going to have a T-Stick plus, 2 game buttons and 2 LED cone player start buttons. One thought about Tempest control panels is that unlike vector monitors, there are more panels out there than cabinets. I have an untouched spare tucked away in case I ever do restore the cab, and you can usually find them around for not too much money (especially unpopulated ones). The machine I restored had extra holes which I backfilled, and it's holding up fine.

I posted a question in the artwork forum asking for ideas of how to get the CPO made without the game instruction text, but didn't get any answers. I'm now planning on using a blue gridwork pattern.

My repro side art should be here this week - I've been kind of stalled while waiting for it, so I can't wait to get back to work.
Good luck on your project, and power to the Tempest MAMERS!

RetroJames · « **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2005, 08:56:37 am »

Quote from: Paladin on February 07, 2005, 01:41:02 am

I restored a Tempest and it cost me just under $1,000 all together:
http://home.comcast.net/~dark.paladin/tempest

Nicely done!

JODY · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2005, 09:40:48 pm »

Hadn't posted an update in awhile...got too busy buying parts for cab 2 and 3 when I haven't even done cab 1 yet.

The 2 volcano buttons have arrived. Need to get some 330 ohm resisters to test them.

Plan to go over the cab this weekend and prepare the order to Bob Robert's to get leaf switches and buttons and anything else needed.

BTW cab 2 will be a cocktail but a little different from any I've seen to allow more game variety. Cab 3 is either going to be very unusual or will turn out to be impossible and wind up being multiple cabs. There's just too many arcade parts trying to be crammed into it...

tommy · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2005, 12:18:36 am »

Did flampoo suggest to destroy the cab in that first post

quarterback · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2005, 12:46:05 am »

Quote from: tommy on February 21, 2005, 12:18:36 am

Did flampoo suggest to destroy the cab in that first post

JODY · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2005, 06:45:33 pm »

Quote from: quarterback on February 21, 2005, 12:46:05 am

Quote from: tommy on February 21, 2005, 12:18:36 am
Did flampoo suggest to destroy the cab in that first post

JODY · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2005, 06:47:49 pm »

Tested the volcano buttons I bought.

Paladin · « **Reply #16 on:** February 22, 2005, 01:31:33 pm »

Tempest uses a cardboard bezel between the glass and the monitor to hide the wood sides.

KSKID · « **Reply #17 on:** February 24, 2005, 12:26:34 am »

Quote from: JODY on February 21, 2005, 06:47:49 pm

Tested the volcano buttons I bought. The switches work and the LEDs light up.

Looked over the cab more. Speaker is in the top. Looks OK. Don't know if it works. The marquee light is also there. Don't know if it functions.

There is no monitor bezel. Bare wood, but not that noticeable due to the smoked plezi. Anyone know if that is original or if there was an actual plastic bezel? (Edit - Found KLOV has full manuals online with parts info.)

The hole in the wood is 15w x 19h. Bigger than I thought it would be. Will support larger than a 19" unless there is another bezel missing.

There was a black cardboard bezel that surrounded the monitor just underneath the glass, i took the one off your cabinet to put in the tempest cab that i was working on since it was missing one.

with that smoked glass on there, you never notice it anyway.

dan57fina · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2005, 07:30:46 pm »

where did you buy those atari cone buttons?

paigeoliver · « **Reply #19 on:** March 16, 2005, 08:23:06 am »

If any dedicated cab is a good choice for Mame then a vector cab is. Not enough monitors to go around. And believe me, those Vector cabinets don't strip themselves out, it is the classic collectors/dealers who are doing it.

RetroJames · « **Reply #20 on:** March 16, 2005, 02:43:36 pm »

Quote from: paigeoliver on March 16, 2005, 08:23:06 am

If any dedicated cab is a good choice for Mame then a vector cab is. Not enough monitors to go around. And believe me, those Vector cabinets don't strip themselves out, it is the classic collectors/dealers who are doing it.

Answer me this...

I read somewhere that a WG6100 tube is nothing too special, meaning you can swap the tube with a variety of other 19" tubes, nothing vector specific.

Now, ArcadeShop sells replacement HV units and replacement deflection units.

So what is left? The xy tube collar and neck board?

Meaning, what is left to simply put together an xy monitor out of available parts?

SuperGunGuru · « **Reply #21 on:** March 16, 2005, 04:16:44 pm »

Earlier in this thread I linked to a few pages with information on the 6100 including a place that sells replacement tubes. While I agree it can be expensive and a pain to put together a working color XY, I think people honestly make too big a deal out of it. The only thing not being reproduced is the neck board (to my knowledge). I'm not trying to slam anyone, but I just don't see how we are in that much trouble for XY stuff if almost the entire monitor can be put together using brand new parts.

paigeoliver · « **Reply #22 on:** March 16, 2005, 04:18:51 pm »

They still make a compatible tube.

Unfortunately no one makes the neckboards.

So basically you can build an essentially new monitor if you have a donor monitor, but there aren't even enough donor monitors, too many of them got chucked out.

ChadTower · « **Reply #23 on:** March 23, 2005, 10:46:41 am »

Yeah, but other than that circular connector, what is so hard about a neckboard? You could repair a dead neckboard pretty easily, there's not much at all on one.

RetroJames · « **Reply #24 on:** March 23, 2005, 01:45:27 pm »

THe yoke is different too I think.

MameMaster! · « **Reply #25 on:** March 24, 2005, 09:07:37 pm »

Quote from: flampoo on February 05, 2005, 10:29:45 pm

MAME it. Slap on a 4p cp. Cover the sides with Donkey Kong art and give it a "MAMECADE" marquee. Put cup holders and gun holsters on each side. But make sure you don't use a monitor any larger than 17".

JODY · « **Reply #26 on:** March 26, 2005, 07:53:35 pm »

Quote from: dan57fina on March 14, 2005, 07:30:46 pm

where did you buy those atari cone buttons?

Ebay

XtraSmiley · « **Reply #27 on:** March 27, 2005, 01:09:53 pm »

6100 are not that hard to find. I have 3 of them. There is a fully working one on the news groups right now for $200. That's only a little bit more than a regular monitor.

RetroJames · « **Reply #28 on:** March 27, 2005, 11:40:54 pm »

Quote from: XtraSmiley on March 27, 2005, 01:09:53 pm

6100 are not that hard to find.

XtraSmiley · « **Reply #29 on:** March 28, 2005, 12:53:12 am »

Quote from: 1hookedspacecadet on March 27, 2005, 11:40:54 pm

Quote from: XtraSmiley on March 27, 2005, 01:09:53 pm
6100 are not that hard to find.

JODY · « **Reply #30 on:** June 22, 2011, 01:16:59 pm »

First the bad news. This project ran into a lot of issues including a house fire that resulted in the t-molding getting partially melted. Eventually I'll do something with the cabinet to run Mame but it is on the back burner still.

Now the good news. I brought home a Tempest yesterday. All original and working (at least when it left the seller's home).

I'd be interested in a vector monitor for this project cab is one is available. That way I could turn this into a multi-vector cab.

pinballwizard79 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 24, 2011, 10:22:54 am »

Cool, check back in say 2017 to update us again


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