I didn't know this was a Rom support forum

[the3eyedblindman]

Spocktwin, I took your advice, and led him out of the desert over to the lake......if, after putting the rod in his hands, he refuses to cast, I may have to push him into the lake

[Gunstar Hero]

::chuckle:: 

[DrewKaree]

..Phew.. Thought this thread was about me...

Nope, not about you, but hopefully you took away from that thread an idea of what we're talking about

Sorry for telling you your name was boring Drew... No hard feelings.

If stuff like that truly bothered me, I'd be opening my thin-skinned self up to all kinds of problems.  Besides, if I let stuff like that bother me, then I'd be.......crashwg.   

Sorry, crash...it's all the "I need help" and sounding like a girl 

(and the best part is it's gonna eat him up not to reply      )

[thrdbace]

Its too bad a lot of the "regulars" on this board fail to realize one thing:

without "noobs"...the knowledge base/community will never expand and continue to flourish.

everyone is a newbie at some point...just b/c you visit the site each day, have built yourself a cabinet, and have a cheesy video clip of a beautiful woman (who would never have anything to do with you) under your name, - doesnt make you jesus.

lets lighten up on newcomers, without new people asking questions that may be obvious to you veterans, this community would cease to exist.

amen.

[Magnet_Eye]

yeah. no avatars with hot chicks!   


 

[Howard_Casto]

Its too bad a lot of the "regulars" on this board fail to realize one thing:

without "noobs"...the knowledge base/community will never expand and continue to flourish.

everyone is a newbie at some point...just b/c you visit the site each day, have built yourself a cabinet, and have a cheesy video clip of a beautiful woman (who would never have anything to do with you) under your name, - doesnt make you jesus.

lets lighten up on newcomers, without new people asking questions that may be obvious to you veterans, this community would cease to exist.

amen.

Well being a newbie yourself, I don't see how your statment carries any weight.

[SirPeale]

Bad attitudes can be fixed on this forum (mine was)

It's true!  One day, just after I reached 3,000 posts, Saint came knocking on my door to give me ---my bottom--- kicking.  I noted a tied up person in the backseat of his car before my beating commenced.

It was only later when everyone was posting pictures of themselves that I realized that person was Howard!

Howard, I don't know what Saint did to you, but you survived, so you must be much stronger now.  Good for you.

[Gunstar Hero]

I call for peace in our time.

"Dear olschoolpeeps, lighten up, kthxbye."

"Dear noobs, smarten up, kthxbye."

Truth be told, if not for the noobs, the software board would be dead. Only everything else would exist, and then only for Drew and Mr.C to brawl over Iraq. Sure some new people are stupid, but honestly, the REALLY stupid questions often don't get answered around here anyways, people just jump on the thread and heckle mercilessly. And really, for every "How do I make MAME work?" question I see, I see 4 or 5 decent questions... and that's not too bad.

BTW, Crazy People is an awesome movie. I love...

"Sony. Because caucasians are just too damn tall." 

...and...

"Volvo. They're boxy, but they're good." 

[Howard_Casto]

Bad attitudes can be fixed on this forum (mine was)

It's true!

[mccoy178]

Hello,
I am a noob for sure and wanted to express my views on this forum.  I am currently working on my cab and am very close to being finished.  What was very discouraging was the software end of the project.  I couldn't even understand the basics of what was going on.  Due to the abuse some other posters were taking, I have decided not to ask.  I stopped after I had the cab built and just worked on other projects.  I play a lot of poker and decided to build a table.  On a lot of the poker forums, many of individuals post goofy posts and start pointless threads I believe due to wanting to share without really knowing how.  People who are interested respond, most blow it off and its out of site within a day or so.   When I began that project, I didn't know what I was getting into.  It took some decent knowledge and availability of tools to do the woodwork and it took forever to get the desired product that I wanted.  I shared thoughts with others and got the job done.  On this site, I don't know if it is a pride thing or what, but a lot of the people here are pretty mean when it comes to responses.  I am sure you feel that the noobs are lazy and just want the answers, and your right.   We are still building the cabs, but in my personal experience, I don't know that much about the software end.  Software and woodworking are two different worlds.  I could build a house if I had to, but the software is like learning chemistry over the internet.  It took me hours to configure my wireless routing system.  I have spent countless days doing some of the simplest things on this dang machine.  Looking into Mame makes my head spin.  I know it's not hard, but getting started was killing me.   Two gentlemen on this forum emailed me that live in my area.  We met last weekend and they answered a ton of questions.  The unselfish help they provided won't be forgotten and will certainly be passed along as I grow with this genre.  I was lucky to see how these work in person and I think a lot of the other noobs don't get the chance.  I think it is great if you developed MAME from Apple IIe software or were around when it came on the scene, but relax.  Realize that what you have is the ability to cause joy in so many peoples lives.  The knowledge that you have is not a cure for aids or the secret to financial freedom.  If this is all you know how to do, then I guess you should be harsh, but I don't believe that.  I appreciate this site and what it's about, but when a lonely guy like PaigeOliver gets his rocks off on somebody that posts a dumb question, it just makes me wish he didn't have this knowledge in depth.  I want this machine for me, but most importantly for my kids.  When you look at some of the responses the older guys drop on the noobs, it just makes me want to kick their rear.  It's just an arcade machine.  Granted, the neatest thing I've ever seen, but just a game in the end.  Again, thanks for this site being here, and all that you guys do.

[Howard_Casto]

I won't comment either way, but your software setup is more important than the hardware, and thus it's expected to require more effort.  You can have great woodworking skills, but without a os, fe and emulators, you've built a very fancy tv shelf.    Evne to people with no talent or experience in either fields, the woodworking aspect should be realitively easy compared to the software end of things.

p.s.  your link isn't working.... we need a user and pass to view other people's ophoto galleries. 

[GGKoul]

I appreciate this site and what it's about, but when a lonely guy like PaigeOliver gets his rocks off on somebody that posts a dumb question, it just makes me wish he didn't have this knowledge in depth.

[mccoy178]

Authors note:I want to stress that the focus on negative comments is an observation of the forums.  I think 95% of the comments are great.  It's the other 5% this whole topic pertains to.  Please don't misinterpret my post.  There is a ton of positive on this site and I plan to be a part of it.


I deleted the pics link to my table, I don't know what they changed, but now you need a password.  Again, I think what you guys do is great, but the remarks burn me sometimes.  Mind you, I am talking about comments few and far between, but if any of you said some of those things to my face, I would either leave, confront you, and/or (as in the case of Paige) most importantly, label you as a loser.  That guy seems to have nothing nice to say the majority of time unless he knows you.  This is just a forum of people who like the same thing.  In the circles I hang out with, if someone is a consistent jerk, we just exclude him.  Lucky for Paige, he goes back a ways and is in with the originals.  I am sure there are more than enough noobs who could do without him.  If this blacklists me, whatever.  I come here for advice and to share.  I could give a crap for people who get some sort of wierd pleasure by facelessly including pointless comments of arrogance.  Now with that said...
I understand the software is the hard part.  I don't question that.  I am saying that when you get the fancy shelf done, you are ready to jump to the next level and in my case, I hit a brick wall.  So anyways, I am getting the project done, putting in my time, and hopefully some year I will have this done.  I'm not looking to get railed on, I wanted to express what I have observed from six months of viewing.  I honestly think this site is great, and I am more than willing to continue helping others that are newer than me.  Be a productive citizen people, that's all I'm saying!

[Goz]

Perhaps this topic should be deleted before mccoy178 negativity becomes contagious. 

Continuing to refer to people as having no lives and or being a jerk is no better than what you are saying is wrong. The 5% you mentioned grows with additional posts to this thread.

Crap better make that 5.2%

-Goz

[mccoy178]

Good Point, I'm done with the thread.  I appologize.

[Tiger-Heli]

Good Point, I'm done with the thread.  I appologize.

McCoy178,

I just want to make some general comments about this forum.  I am not sure what you decided not to ask or which posters you are referring to, but ask here or PM me and I will help you out.

In Paige's defense - Paige is one of the most knowledgeable members of the forum both on actual arcade hardware and what versions of MAME are required for various games.  I myself usually answer many of the newbie posts, and it gets frustrating to me when there is a sticky at the top of the page for "What PC do I need to run MAME, and three times a week someone posts "What can I run on a 400 MHz PIII, and after it gets answered, someone asks in the same thread "What games can I run on a 450 MHz Celeron?", but we still answer them.

Credit needs to be given to the forum for providing the answers it does, and for having it searchable as easily as it is.

If you want other examples of how not to do it - I recently switched from Norton Antivus to AVG Free - here is their forum - http://forum.grisoft.cz/freeforum/, the folks are helpful, but look at the category titles.  Let's say I want to update the software manually, but I get an error message when it installs - Is this an installation problem, an update problem, an Information and Alerts Problem, or an other issues problem? - It could be any and you will probably find relevant posts in any of these, so it's not very useable.

And someone suggested going to the software developer's forum instead of here.  I DARE anyone to go to the MAME Serious forum and post "Hey, I downloaded the latest MAME and galaga.zip from www.mamewarez-roms.com and when I clicked on it, a black screen came up and exited", like someone posted on the EmuLoader boards recently.  I've seen it happen before and the results weren't pretty.

Software is very tough to advise on b/c of the range of abilities out there.

For example, MAME32 is the easiest to learn, but I wouldn't recommend using it once you have figured out what it does and how it works.

I personally run about six versions of command-line MAME (or command-line MAME32) with custom command lines in my Front End to specify which version each game uses, but this isn't the ideal solution (yet) for the guy that's used to using a Macintosh, and hasn't seen Windows Explorer before.

In closing, I would like to point out, that as a member of this forum, you are able in large extent to determine the tone of the forum overall.  Now that you have had your questions answered, you will be able to help others when they ask what some would consider "basic" questions.  And if you do a little more hand-holding than most others would, no one (not noone=NBA) is going to complain and tell you to stop.

Something to consider as you continue on here. . .

[Minwah]

I honestly don't think I've seen hardly any overly harsh replies to newbs in here.  Maybe that's because I don't read all the threads but I do believe most people here are more than helpful.

IMO if 95% of the replies are good, then that is not bad going

[mccoy178]

Thanks guys, I agree with mamewah.  I came off a little harsh there on Paige and I apologize.  The first couple of weeks I was on here I saw him blast a few in a way I thought was out of line.  It just seems that his posts have a light of arrogance to them.  Anyways, I should have never opened this thread.  I fell victim to and hate when people make negative comments and/or argue over moot points in a thread, and I started it!  This place is great, I will continue the tradition of helping others and I do understand how the questions can sometimes become redundant.  I work at a customer service counter.

Here are the pics of the table.  Figured out how to do it finally.  This stuff takes me forever.

[Gunstar Hero]

Nice table... I wanna see the arcade cab!

[DrewKaree]

Here are the pics of the table.  Figured out how to do it finally.  This stuff takes me forever.

Shoulda just asked us.  We'd have helped you out with that!   

You should post this in Arcade Misc.