Ritek DVD-R not so good for non-xbox stuff?

[crashwg]

I just got my shipment of 100 ridata ritek G04 inkjet printable disks today and since my xbox is currently out of service and I was planning on using the blank disks for stuff other than xbox I decided to burn a couple movies and a PS2 game...

Well I'm having some problems with them. My PS2 has yet to read a single disk (two brothers, chronicles of riddick, hotshots golf fore) and my computer's dvd-rom (not the one I burned the disks with) won't read them either...

What's going on here? I bought the disks becuase they came so highly recomended by alot of people on xbox-scene for their compatibility with the xbox, I had never expected that they wouldn't work at all in other formats though.

BTW I'm burning the disks with a brand spankin' new Sony DRU-710A if that has anything to do with anything.

[DrewKaree]

What's going on here? I bought the disks becuase they came so highly recomended by alot of people on xbox-scene for their compatibility with the xbox, I had never expected that they wouldn't work at all in other formats though.

What do that whole lot of people who recommended them at xbox-scene say about this? 

You're hopscotching all over to get advice/help - seems like a bad way to get information you want. 

You've taken their recommendations as to what discs to use, but asking us what to do if they don't do what you want them to.  Kind of backwards to me.   

[JoyMonkey]

I've never backed up a PS2 game, but I use Ritek G04 discs all the time to backup DVD movies. They're the only discs I've found that let my old Pioneer DVR-105 burn at full speed (4X), and I haven't burned a coaster with them yet.
That said, I've never used the inkjet printable ones, only the silver/mate ones.

What software did you use for the PS2 backups? I hear that PrimoDVD is recommended for PS2 (don't know why, I assume Nero would work too).

[pointdablame]

I've never had an ounce of trouble with my riteks for xbox games, dvd movies in my xbox, ps2, computer, or stand alone boxes, backups of my data, etc etc.  They are the only discs I really trust at this point.

The inkjet part should not matter at all... a g04 is a g04.

If you can't get them to work, send them my way, im running low

[crashwg]

I'm thinking it must just be my PS2 and my pc's dvd-rom being not so good...  I brought chronicles of riddick to my buddies and his PS2 had no problem loading it up and I'm sure the PS2 game backup I brought over would have booted too if his PS2 was modded but it in fact not so I didn't get to test that out.  His dvd-rom would not read the disks either but his burner did.

Xbox's Thompson reads them just fine!  Infact if it wasn't for the G04's my xbox would still be a paperweight right now...

I guess I'll just have to replace the drives in both my PC and PS2.

[JoyMonkey]

Might be a dumb question, but I notice that when I burn a DVD iso with Nero, by default it doesn't close the session (so no further writing is possible and so the disc is readable by most dvd drives), I have to select the option each time I burn a DVD. Did you remember to tick the 'close session' box?

[Edgedamage]

Might be your burner. I have a Toshiba DVD burner and for awhile I used cheap DVD discs and they played on anything but got tired of having to clean the discs before I burned them. I use Imation now. Also remember not all DVD-rw's read on the first try sometimes it takes up to eight trys before the box will read them. Also the newer  ISO's for xbox like to be burned with DVD decrypter.

[pointdablame]

Might be your burner. I have a Toshiba DVD burner and for awhile I used cheap DVD discs and they played on anything but got tired of having to clean the discs before I burned them. I use Imation now. Also remember not all DVD-rw's read on the first try sometimes it takes up to eight trys before the box will read them. Also the newer  ISO's for xbox like to be burned with DVD decrypter.

Just an FYI... you're not actually using Imation discs... you're using whatever die Imation is currently buying.  If you get anoter case of Imation discs, you might get a different die that will not work for you.  You should buy dvd-r's based on die, not brand name, as very few (if any) name brands use only one die.

As for newer Xbox games needing or preferring dvd decrypter, where did you see that?  I've never heard/read that before, and have made plenty of newer backups with no problems at all using Nero or RecordNow like I have been doing for quite some time now.


Crash - like Joymonkey said, be sure to finalize the disc.  Also what are you burning at?  I burn all my games/movies at 2x.  In general, the slower you burn the less likely you are to have errors or compatibility problems.  Give it a try burning at 1x or 2x and see if your PS2 will read it.

[crashwg]

I'm not seeing a checkbox for finalizing the disk...    As for burning at a slow speed, Alcohol and Nero both only let me burn a 4x which is the speed of the disks.

[JoyMonkey]

When I open a DVD .iso with Nero (version 6.3.0.3) I get this dialogue with the 'Finalize DVD' checkbox:

[crashwg]

What I've been doing is opening up Nero StartSmart, clicking "burn image to disk", StartSmart then opens up an explorer window where I point to the image file and it then goes to the "Image recording" window, I click next because there's no options needing change on that window and it starts burning...

Now that I see how you're doing it, I'll probably start doing that as it seems like it gives you a bit more control over the disk though.

Oh, and is there any way of telling if the disks I have previously burned are infact finalized?

[SOAPboy]

What I've been doing is opening up Nero StartSmart, clicking "burn image to disk", StartSmart then opens up an explorer window where I point to the image file and it then goes to the "Image recording" window, I click next because there's no options needing change on that window and it starts burning...

Now that I see how you're doing it, I'll probably start doing that as it seems like it gives you a bit more control over the disk though.

Oh, and is there any way of telling if the disks I have previously burned are infact finalized?

dont use smart start.. and well, dont use nero..

Grab QWIX (google it) Extract ISO follow my tutorial on burning multiple game dvds..

http://s88080780.onlinehome.us/xboxforums/viewtopic.php?t=5

Yes you have to sign up, but theres no EMAIL AUTH stuff, so just sign up and log in..

[pointdablame]

You don't need QWIX.  Nero works just fine.

If you want to do multi-game discs you can grab the newest version of Craxtion and just follow their multigame wizard.  Couldn't be easier and I've had no problems with it.  Either way though, Crash said he is having trouble with his PS2 reading the discs, NOT his xbox.

Don't you startsmart as was mentioned.  Nero WILL allow you to choose the speed its burning at as long as you aren't using their wizard.  Choose 2x or 1x if the option is there (some burners/Nero installs omit the 1x speed).  You can get the 1x speed back through settings or a hack IIRC, but I don't remember it off hand.

[SOAPboy]

You don't need QWIX.

[SOAPboy]

and to clearify when i say SAME METHODS i dont mean QWIX will extract PS2 games.. tho, its possible it might O_o but i doubt it..

[pointdablame]

I wasn't questioning your methods... its just not going to help his compatibility issues.  IMO, craxtion works fine and does what it does.  I agree that doing it with RAW files (which I have also done) is better, but you can't deny Craxtion's ease of use at the start.


Anyway, faster menu loads on multigame discs will not help him get his discs to be read by his PS2. that was my point.

I didn't mean to offend you and all of your 200,000 fans 

[SOAPboy]

I wasn't questioning your methods... its just not going to help his compatibility issues.

[crashwg]

Being able to lock your own threads is a beutiful thing!!!