Author Topic: Likely an ez question to answer (Read 5125 times)

Demon-Seed · « **on:** October 05, 2002, 02:08:10 pm »

I have Lazarus and i have MAME as an emu right. how can i remove all the Neo Geo roms from the mame list and have them show in a Neo geo list? is there a way how? someone explain please?

also...is there anway (or will there be) in lazaurus to run straight exes?

? like i could have a list of pc games that can be ran?? or mp3 jukebox.exe?

thx
Jim

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #1 on:** October 05, 2002, 02:34:10 pm »

To get rid of the negogeo games in you mame list is quite simple... Take your neogeo search strings and take them on to the "filters" entry at the bottom of your mame gamelist. Poof the neogeo games are gone.

Yes you can run exes now, you just point to the exe in you .cfg file. The only catch is that the exe you run has to accept mame command line switches (mame.exe romname.) I've found that most pc games ignore a bad switch so you can launch them fine. Also most media players will accept a swtich like.... (mplayer.exe P:\pathtosong\song.mp3) and play the song you linked so that end work too. The latest command line wrapper also accepts the "null" string as the emulator name... what the means is it only passes the romname, which very well could be the path to an exe. I use this trick for pinball arcade, which has a bunch of exe's for each table in a single dir. Very sneaky but it works

Demon-Seed · « **Reply #2 on:** October 05, 2002, 06:58:45 pm »

Hey,
Um i do not want to elimate neo geo complete just from mame list and then have a neo geo list too..I am a little confused to how its done can u explain? does this look right??

[path]
logo=neogeo.gif
caption=NO NEO GEO
useclones=1
searchstrings:2=neogeo
[/path]

but how do u do the mame one and say ALL BUT NO NEO GEO??

both would still have path of c:/mame but i am confused a bit. (ok confused alot)

thx
Jim

SirPoonga · « **Reply #3 on:** October 05, 2002, 07:15:52 pm »

Would it be possible to make a PC Games list?

Demon, you are missing the new filter strings in that example.

Here's how I make a neogeo list
[path]
logo=
caption=NeoGeo
useclones=0
searchstrings:4=neogeo
filters:
[/path]

Here's my mame list
[path]
logo=Mame.gif
caption=Mame
useclones=1
searchstrings:5=MAME
filters:6=*mature*;4=neogeo
[/path]

Demon-Seed · « **Reply #4 on:** October 06, 2002, 12:17:56 am »

can u just explain what ouputs u get in the first one? and second? in lamens terms..ehehe

thx
jim

SirPoonga · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2002, 01:07:50 am »

First one, neogeo games.
Second one, every game in mame minus mature and neogeo.

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #6 on:** October 06, 2002, 08:35:58 am »

Exactly... the filter just takes the gamelist for that searchstring you just made and removes all games that match it. It's not permenant and only effects that one list.

The dat file utility is good for making exe gamelists but you have to put in one entry at a time.

Demon-Seed · « **Reply #7 on:** October 06, 2002, 07:25:47 pm »

guys ok in my dir.ini i have.. but the neo geo roms are not showing up.. i get the gif but thats it? what do i need to do? thanks guys

[path]
logo=neogeo.gif
caption=NeoGeo
useclones=0
searchstrings:4=neogeo
filters:
[/path]

[path]
logo=Mame.gif
caption=Mame
useclones=1
searchstrings:5=MAME
filters:4=neogeo
[/path]

Demon-Seed · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2002, 07:30:31 pm »

all other roms show up fine.. like my nes, genesis etc..

mame shows up too just not neo geo.. what did i do wrong?

Demon-Seed · « **Reply #9 on:** October 06, 2002, 08:01:45 pm »

Hey
ok i checked all the neo geo games still show up in mame and neo geo says No games .......

hmmm.....it should be i have latest version too

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #10 on:** October 07, 2002, 02:32:27 pm »

Probably because you are searching for any games that are a clone of a game called "neogeo" since there isn't a game called neogeo it obviously isn't going to find anything nor be able to filter out the "nothing" that you have asked it to remove. Remember a games parent rom and it's system rom are two different things.

look at the documentation.... 4=cloneof

you need to search for the manufacturer....
the next version this will be much simplier as you search via driver (like neogeo.c)

SirPoonga · « **Reply #11 on:** October 07, 2002, 06:31:31 pm »

Really HC? Hmmm, weird, it works for me, I just copied and pasted my virdirs.

Oh wait, just looked, grabbed the wrong ini file. doh.
[path]
logo=
caption=NeoGeo/SNK
useclones=0
searchstrings:3=NeoGeo;3=SNK
filters:
[/path]

Demon-Seed · « **Reply #12 on:** October 07, 2002, 08:57:55 pm »

Hey,
so if i fix that part sir it should work??

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2002, 10:29:20 am »

Well that works for 90% of the neogeo.... there are some odd-ball one's that aren't manufactured by snk that it misses (metal slug 3, prehistoric isle 2) As I said next version it will be much easier...

12=noegeo.c

that's all you have to type

Lilwolf · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2002, 11:45:17 am »

Howard, will your next version require a special version of mame, or are you going to use a special dat file?

I've considered doing the neogeo.c type setup for the controllers (so you could setup all the MK games one time based on the driver name). But I couldn't find an easy way to find the info.

)p( · « **Reply #15 on:** October 08, 2002, 12:04:23 pm »

Quote from: Lilwolf on October 08, 2002, 11:45:17 am

Howard, will your next version require a special version of mame, or are you going to use a special dat file?

I've considered doing the neogeo.c type setup for the controllers (so you could setup all the MK games one time based on the driver name). But I couldn't find an easy way to find the info.

You can find them in mame.exe -listdetails or that is the way Howard and I retrieve them...

Peter

Lilwolf · « **Reply #16 on:** October 08, 2002, 12:49:54 pm »

The driver isn't in the -listinfo. Theres a ton of other info, but not the .c file... unless i"m not reading a line right.

You get the manufacturer thats pretty close... but not really it.

(am I wrong? I'm at the office so I can't check it... but I've gone through it before... but maybe not at the moment when I cared or thought it would be useful)

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #17 on:** October 08, 2002, 02:15:50 pm »

Not the list info file, the list details file... it's a totally different animal that tells you all of the processor emulators a game uses as well as the driver file.

Upon the next version I will parse listinfo and listdetails myself so the user won't get confused. It doesn't work for other emus, but as they aren't structured like mame it wouldn't work anyway.

Lilwolf · « **Reply #18 on:** October 08, 2002, 05:56:53 pm »

well... I'll be a monkeys uncle... (I've always wanted to be a monkey....)

I don't think I ever looked at the -listdetails.... has less details then the -listinfo for some reason... but it does have some great charateristics to add! Great for filters based on hardware!

thanks for the info

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #19 on:** October 08, 2002, 08:33:52 pm »

Yeah I often ignored it myself for the same reasons.... but once you need to do stuff based on hardware it's invaluable.

)p( · « **Reply #20 on:** October 09, 2002, 03:38:48 pm »

Quote from: Lilwolf on October 08, 2002, 05:56:53 pm

well... I'll be a monkeys uncle... (I've always wanted to be a monkey....)

I don't think I ever looked at the -listdetails.... has less details then the -listinfo for some reason... but it does have some great charateristics to add! Great for filters based on hardware!

thanks for the info

yeah it is...I added it a long time ago to be able to launch advance mame instead of regular mame for drivers that needed its blitrotate to display properly on a vertical monitor...I also used it frequently in cases when a driver has issues and worked better with an older veriosn of mame...system16 etc. ...and now with the cabs it is even more useful...

Peter


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