well, to me, the people who are using my cabinet have some idea of what they are doing (playing a game) and so they would know where to go. as for the long lists, i'm thinking of having it so you can weed out games you don't want. if you did this based on just language (english), for most systems, that would be half the games, and i'd also weed out copies of the same game, which would cut the list in half again. and as for how the FE looks to people, arcades and consoles are just dumb downed computers, and as long as it doesn't look like windows, then people aren't going to think it' windows, and as for the way i want to set it up, it's just like consoles are setup, with two buttons for navigation. i'm not by any means saying this FE is for everyone, since it doesn't seem to be for you two, but i would love to have one work as simply as this and i'm sure at least a few others would like this as well. as for the filters, i think the fact that it's a bunch of seperate consoles is the best, even taking into account my parents and girlfriend...that would be the best for most people i know. and i know you two are giving me your opinions and i like that, it's opening up my mind to the other possobilities, but i'd like to hear something constructive about this idea, like where i should start and how simple something like this would be. thanks for the opinions guys.