Monitor questions

[DYNAGOD]

Monitor Type:

Nanao 29" Dual 8, model MS8 (dual res)


i have been experiencing some issues that i havent seen other people posting about so im inclined to think its not a common problem..

Issue 1:
basically what looks good for my desktop does not work for my games,and vice versa..
if i set up my monitor to make my desktop semi readable and fill the screen correctly, when i start a game i will either get a nasty roll and or the picture is squashed looking like a 16:9 feature film.

conversely,after i load and set up the game to look correctly ,if i jump back to my desktop its all out of proportion and or rolls..

to compund this problem ,its different with every game!!! no two games use the same monitor settings..
this requires me to lift the 30lb metal and glass hood of my cabinet and adjust the settings on the monitor every time i play a game and again when i exit it...

ISSUE 2:
there is a medium frequency, ever so slight shake in my monitor.its exstremely annoying 
 no matter how much i adjust and play around with it, i cannot get rid of it.
is this a sign of the need for a cap kit?
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people dont ordinarily have to adjust their monitors every time they load and unload a game do they?
and if i need it, what can i expect to pay a tech to come do a cap kit on my monitor?

thanks all

[paigeoliver]

I adjust my 29" dual res monitor every time I switch boards in it. No two boards seem to put out the exact same video signals.

As for my arcadevga cabinet. After all sorts of issues trying to get it perfect I just set the resolution to "auto" and set my desktop to 640x480 and adjusted the monitor to get THAT correct. Most of the games are pretty close, although the 53hz games roll (so I can't play them).

I have tried the arcadeVGA resolution tool, which REALLY horked things up, I was having to readjust the vertical hold for every game, and my monitor doesn't have that so called "sweet spot".

I might switch to smoothmame, which runs everything at 60hz.

[dabone]

Use miniwah's Avga res tool, and remove all no 60hz modes.


Works great and no roll.


Later,
dabone

[DYNAGOD]

ive had bad luck with the res tool.

so i guess the rule of thumb with mame cab is to pick a game and leave it there for awhile..
what i find so odd is that games on a PC monitor always fit the screen perefectly with no overscan or other issues, whereas an arcade monitor is a complete clusterf* with every different game..

[paigeoliver]

That is because PC monitors are multisync AND because there are standards for PC resolutions.

And in actuality you do have to adjust your PC monitor for every resolution, they just remember the adjustments now. Change video cards and you will be adjusting that sucker again.

[menace]

After talking with Joey from Jomac he pointed out a cap that was completed encased in a black rubber tubing and had glue on the top (easy bake cap oven) at any rate it was C537 on the Ms8-26A--If you do a cap kit--make sure you get it as well and replace it with a higher voltage one.  After i removed the oven i had this nice brown bulgy cap to dispose of--terrible design...

[DYNAGOD]

im not confident enough to do a cap kit..
ive been touched by the thunder gods before and im not eager to put myself in that position again 
would i need to remove the monitor to bring it to someone to have a cap kit done, or can it be done on site?

[SirPeale]

im not confident enough to do a cap kit..

I recently did my first.  It's not hard at all.  The most difficult part is acutally removing the chassis.  The scariest part is removing the anode cap.  Once you do that, it's peaches and cream.

I'd do it for you, if you lived closer.

[DYNAGOD]

it would be nice if there was site that illustrated the process, a picture says a thousand words.. it would definetly help to demystify the process and help to make it seem a little less intimidating..
removing that monitor is something ive been dreading since i got my cab.. I need to machine new wheels for the monitor rotation.as it is now, it gets stuck and from time to time as two of the 3 wheels exploded from the impact during shipping..but at least they took the brunt of it, not the monitor itself...
i think if im going to brave the task of pulling the monitor,its going to be to put a digital multisync in there. and even then im uncertain if the betson or wells can be rotated safely, so i dont even know if thats doable.
if it cant then i will likely make it a permantent horizontal cab and use the removed nanao for a new dedicated vertical project..

[SirPeale]

You shouldn't have to remove the monitor, just the board.

[DYNAGOD]

You shouldn't have to remove the monitor, just the board.

hmmmmm...
now that sounds a little less involved, which i like..

[menace]

I've included a link in the FAQ how to discharge and remove a chassis--brain must be in gear to do it!

[mindofone]

Take a look here:

http://www.arcaderestoration.com/index.asp?OPT=3&DATA=4&CBT=3