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Does this constitute a computer?
« on: November 22, 2004, 10:59:59 pm »
This is for my mame machine so obviously it has enough horsepower for what I want it to do but I need to make sure all the parts will work together and be compatible and startup etc..

Anyway, I am pretty confident this setup would suit my needs but before I purchase all the parts on this shopping list, I need to know whether or not that all parts combined would constitute a computer. Anotherwards, if I got all these parts, could I relatively easily build it up into a computer, start it up, load windows and it would work fine? Will everything be compatible? Also please let me know what else I would need, like extra cords/cables (I know I need an s-video cable to hook to a TV)
 
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APEX Beige Mid-Tower Super Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "7C574-115"
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=11-154-
017&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
 
Rosewill 52x32x52x16 CD-RW Black Combo Drive, Model C523216B, Retail
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=27-190-
003&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
 
Speeze 80mm DC Case fan, Model "FD08025S1M4"  x 5
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-
007&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
 
SAMSUNG 160GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model SP1614C, OEM Drive Only
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=22-152-
015&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
 
LITE-ON SK-1688A/B Standard Black Keyboard PS/2 104keys -RETAIL
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=23-107-
119&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
 
Kingmax 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-156-
006&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
 
PCCHIPS "M863G V1.5" SiS741GX Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-185-
033&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
 
Rosewill Black Optical Wheel Mouse, Model "RM800P" -OEM
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=26-193-
001&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
 
AMD Mobile Athlon XP 2600+, 266 MHz FSB, 512K L2 Cache Processor,45 Watt - OEM (Barton core)
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-
436&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
 
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! 7.1 24-bit PCI Sound Card, Model 70SB041000000 -Retail
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=29-102-
176&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
 
SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 7000(RADEON VE) Video Card, 64MB DDR, 64-bit, TV-Out, 4X AGP -BULK  -OEM
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-
231&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE
 

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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2004, 12:16:01 am »
First, none of your links work.  NewEgg's link structure is a bit screwy.

A few points:

1) you're buying a SATA hard drive and your Motherboard doesn't have any SATA ports.  That will not work at all.  Make sure your hdd is a IDE version, otherwise, you'll have no hard drive.

2) I am very picky about power supplies, so I would say get something other than the no-name they throw in with the case.  That being said though, 300w is fine for your components.  I've just had PSUs kill systems before, so I don't risk anything in that department anymore.

3) your motherboard choice is a bit iffy.  PCChips is also a very unknown company with very little reputation.  I'm saying this again cuz I usually don't skimp in this area, but it could turn out to be a decent board. 

When I build a system, I make sure I get top name, quality PSUs and motherboards.  I go for cost vs performance for everything else at the time.  If I were you, I'd spend an extra 20 bux or so and get a mobo from Abit, Asus, DFI, etc.   Anything with the Nforce 2 chipset would do good for you.

Again though, 2 and 3 are personal preference.  I wouldn't buy them, but they may very well work out fine for you. Just be SURE to change that hard drive.  That isn't my opinion, it just won't work with your motherboard.

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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2004, 12:23:43 am »


PCChips is also a very unknown company with very little reputation.  I'm saying this again cuz I usually don't skimp in this area, but it could turn out to be a decent board. 


PC Chips and it's various aliases are very well known... But not in a good way! Unless you are completely desperate (and maybe even if you are) avoid them at all costs!

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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2004, 01:28:50 am »
Why in the heck are you buying CD burners and fancy mice and keyboards and huge hard drives for a machine that is going to sit inside a cabinet?  :police:
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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2004, 01:30:57 am »
Why in the heck are you buying CD burners and fancy mice and keyboards and huge hard drives for a machine that is going to sit inside a cabinet?
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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2004, 01:35:34 am »
well nevermind that harddrive I'll just go with this one
 Samsung 160GB 7200RPM Hard Drive, Model SP1614N, OEM Drive Only
(limit 20 per customer)   

- Specifications -

Capacity: 160GB
Average Seek Time: 8.9 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE Ultra ATA133
Features: Fluid Dynamic Bearing Spindle Motor Technology
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Remark: OEM Drive Only 

Model#: SP1614N
Item#: N82E16822152014 
 
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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2004, 01:43:26 am »
Before I downgrade my list to 256mb of ram instead of 512mb of ram I need to know for sure that with windows XP running I'd have no problem running basically all 2D games?
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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2004, 02:38:11 am »
Don't get a pcchips motherboard, it'll give you nothing but grief.
What brand of powersupply does that case come with? If its a deer or something, see if you can order the case with out the supply for less so you can get one that doesn't suck.

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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2004, 02:52:37 am »
Ok I updated a few things. I think it's the same case/power supply. I went back to it because it's cheap and there are a TON of good reviews for both it and the PSU that comes with it.

List with specs:

Case:

APEX Beige Mid-Tower Super Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "7C574-115"

Specifications:
Case Type: Mid-Tower
Color: Beige
Material: Steel
Drive Bays: 5.25'' x4,3.5''(External) x2, 3.5''(Internal) x2
Expansion Slots: 7 Full Size
Front Ports: USB2.0 x2
Power Supply: 350W
Cooling System: N/A
Motherboard Compatibility: ATX
Dimensions: 18.75''x7.25''x16''


Speeze 80mm DC Case fan, Model "FD08025S1M4" x 4

Specification:
Compatibility: Case, Power Supply
Dimensions: 80 x 80 x 25 mm
Bearing Type: Sleeve
Nominal Speed(RPM): 2500+/-10%
Max Air FlowCFM): 31.73
Max Pressure: Not Specified
Heat Sink Material: N/A
Rated Voltage: 12V DC
Connector: 3+4 Pin
Noise(dBA): 28.0
Special Features: ISO9002 Certified

Memory/Media:

Samsung 160GB 7200RPM Hard Drive, Model SP1614N, OEM Drive Only


Model#SP1614N Item #N82E16822152014Specifications:
Capacity: 160GB
Average Seek Time: 8.9 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE Ultra ATA133
Features: Fluid Dynamic Bearing Spindle Motor Technology
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Remark: OEM Drive Only
Kingmax 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - OEM


Model#MPXC22D-38 Item #N82E16820156006Specifications:
Manufacturer: Kingmax
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime

SONY Black 16X DVD-ROM Drive, Model DDU1613/B2s, OEM

Specifications:
Read Speed: 40X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Interface: E-IDE/ATAPI
Buffer: 512KB
Access Time: 80-220ms DVD, 165ms CD
Data Transfer Rate: 1,800~3,600 kB/s (CD), 8,788~21,632 kB/s Single Layer, 5,586~13,520 kB/s Dual Layer
Features: Compatible with all CD formats
Packaging: OEM Pack Drive only (see pictures for details)

Brains:


AMD Mobile Athlon XP 2600+, 266 MHz FSB, 512K L2 Cache Processor,45 Watt - OEM

Model#AXMG2600FQQ4C Item #N82E16819103436Specifications:
Model: AMD Mobile Athlon XP
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 2GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 512KB
Voltage: 1.45V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)

-ASRock "K7S41GX" SiS741GX Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL

Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket A for AMD Athlon Duron/XP Processors
Chipset: SiS 741GX + SiS 963L
FSB: 333/266/200MHz
RAM: 2x DIMM for up to 2GB DDR333
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 2x PCI, 1x AMR
Ports: 2xPS/2,1xLPT,4xUSB2.0,1xLAN,1xVGA,1xGame Port,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: 5.1 Channels AC97 audio codec
Onboard Video: Integrated with Real 256E 3D Graphics controller, support 64MB Max shared memory
Onboard LAN: 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Modem: Modem Riser Card
Form Factor: microATX


Sound and Video cards:


Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! 7.1 24-bit PCI Sound Card, Model 70SB041000000 -Retail
Model#70SB041000000 Item #N82E16829102176
Specifications:
Channels: 7.1
Max Sampling Rate:24/96kHz
Hardware Decode: Dolby Digital
Digital Audio: 24-bit
PC Interface: PCI
Connectors:Line level out (Front / Side / Rear / Center / Subwoofer) or Headphone out Line In / Microphone In / *Digital I/O Aux Audio in
Package Contents: See pics
Special Features: EAX 3.0, Plug and Play, DirectSound
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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2004, 11:38:50 pm »
Do OEM processors come with a heatsink/fan? If not you'll need one.

Other thing I'd suggest is to hold off on the soundcard for now. That motherboard has a good audio chipset on it, and plenty of speaker connections for a cab project.

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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2004, 12:23:26 am »
I agree, I don't buy soundcards for mame cabinets if the already have onboard sound. No point to it, mame doesn't have 3D audio and even the cheapest onboard sound can handle the hyper simple 8 bit and 16 bit sounds of old arcade games.

Whiz bang sound cards are mostly for 3D audio, or for the (entirely overlooked), incredible midi capabilities of some of them.
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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2004, 02:11:40 am »
Spend the extra couple of bucks to get the retail processor that comes with the heatsink/fan.

Maybe this is just me but I would go with an abit or asus motherboard instead of going with a no name board. A couple extra bucks now could save you from frying everything later.

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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2004, 04:59:45 am »
Don't get a pcchips motherboard, it'll give you nothing but grief.
What brand of powersupply does that case come with? If its a deer or something, see if you can order the case with out the supply for less so you can get one that doesn't suck.

i have a PCCHIPS in my mame machine, runs perfect for what it is..

think about it, its a MAME machine..

as for "retail" GO OEM and get a "better" heatsink and fan, because a cabinet GETS HOT and that better cooling will do you go anyways..

keep the 512 ram imo, it is "just" a mame machine, but your also talking about XP, and running larger roms.. dunno, my upgrade from 256 to 512 helped tons of performance issues..

HD is all preferance.. if i had a choice right now, id have at least a 80gig or bigger.. hell mame roms alone (complete set including chds and such) is over 30gigs by itself.. tack on NES, and Music, and any other stuff you want and thatll fill up fast..


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Re: Does this constitute a computer?
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2004, 08:28:40 am »
Tell you what.  Tell me what your budget is, I'll work around a computer that will work within your specs.  Then, send me the money and I'll purchase the parts, assemble and test them.  Yes, I'll want a small piece of the pie, but it'll be assembled correctly and tested.  Then I'll ship it via UPS wherever you want.