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Are you a Sheep, Wolf, or a Sheepdog?

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Are you a Sheep, Wolf, or a Sheepdog?
« on: October 14, 2004, 07:35:27 pm »
ON SHEEP, WOLVES, AND SHEEPDOGS

This is a good short story/poem.
It'll help you see why you can't convince the other side they're wrong.
(Whichever side you're on.)

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Re:Are you a Sheep, Wolf, or a Sheepdog?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2004, 08:33:55 pm »
That's a great essay.  It certainly makes you think.

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Re:Are you a Sheep, Wolf, or a Sheepdog?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2004, 08:44:15 pm »
A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking
the hero's path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the
universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.


That's awesome!

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Re:Are you a Sheep, Wolf, or a Sheepdog?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2004, 09:14:59 pm »
Thank you Dodger.
You’re always in control of your behavior. Sometimes you just control yourself
in ways that you later wish you hadn’t

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Re:Are you a Sheep, Wolf, or a Sheepdog?
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2004, 12:54:27 pm »
"For example, many officers carry their weapons in church.? They are
well concealed in ankle holsters, shoulder holsters or inside-the-belt
holsters tucked into the small of their backs.? Anytime you go to some form of
religious service, there is a very good chance that a police officer
in your congregation is carrying. You will never know if there is such an individual in your
place of worship, until the wolf appears to massacre you and your loved ones.

I was training a group of police officers in Texas, and during the
break, one officer asked his friend if he carried his weapon in church. The other
cop replied, "I will never be caught without my gun in church." I
asked why he felt so strongly about this, and he told me about a cop he knew who was at
a church massacre in Ft. Worth, Texas in 1999. In that incident, a mentally
deranged individual came into the church and opened fire, gunning down fourteen
people. He said that officer believed he could have saved every life that day
if he had been carrying his gun. His own son was shot, and all he could do
was throw himself on the boy's body and wait to die. That cop looked me in the
eye and said, "Do you have any idea how hard it would be to live with yourself
after that?"


yeah, thanks  ???


ROUGHING UP THE SUSPECT SINCE 1981

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Re:Are you a Sheep, Wolf, or a Sheepdog?
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2004, 01:06:12 pm »
Yeah, danny, that was the part that got me too.  Because I had a friend who was a youth pastor at that church who still has a hard time talking about what went on that day.  And the realization that had someone done just that, carried a weapon with them while there, that guy may have been stopped before killing a single person.  

There were two law enforcement officers my friend knew there.  They had their guns in the car.  They now do just that, carry them in ankle holsters or shoulder holsters.  As was stated in the commentary, it was one of those "matters of degrees".  

They won't be caught in the same situation unprepared ever again.

Perhaps this story will open the eyes of others

Like I said, Thank you Dodger.
You’re always in control of your behavior. Sometimes you just control yourself
in ways that you later wish you hadn’t

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Re:Are you a Sheep, Wolf, or a Sheepdog?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2004, 11:54:04 am »
When I read it I thought it hit all the reasons I have a gun, and it hit several points I didn't think of.

Unfortunately I live in Illinois, so I'll continue to say "Baa" every time I leave my house, but I wont stop barking for conceal carry.

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Re:Are you a Sheep, Wolf, or a Sheepdog?
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2004, 01:27:25 pm »
Keep up the good fight. My family was originally from Ohio, which  overcame it's restrictions after we moved to the truly free state of Pennsylvania.
In the meantime, a good law enforcement grade pepper spray is enough buy you some time if the Goblins come calling.

There is also the old slogan "Better judged by 12 than carried by 6", but I'm not going to suggest you take control of your life by carrying something small anyway, like a Kahr PM-9 or an even smaller .380 like a Kel-Tec P3AT. No sir, I absolutely wouldn't suggest you get a wallet holster and carry one of those anyway, even though nobody would EVER know until they tried to do you grievious harm. No sir, that'd be a crime!  ;)

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Re:Are you a Sheep, Wolf, or a Sheepdog?
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2004, 05:45:31 pm »
Unfortunately I live in Illinois, so I'll continue to say "Baa" every time I leave my house, but I wont stop barking for conceal carry.
They're working on it in my state...they're even runnign ads about it.  I though about this story today when I heard the ad.  They had a line in there "they want to allow someone to carry a gun into our schools, our workplaces, even our churches"  Note the placement of "churches"!  I thought to myself, more folks should know of the story, so I copied and pasted it to a few address book folks I know.  I hope you don't mind, Dodger  ;)
You’re always in control of your behavior. Sometimes you just control yourself
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Re:Are you a Sheep, Wolf, or a Sheepdog?
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2004, 06:06:37 pm »
It's not my essay, or website.

Someone had sent me an email with the essay in it, It was to long to post, so I did a search with "Dave Grossman" and "sheepdog", knowing that such a good story would have to live on the web.