MAME with arcadevga and d9200 smooth scrolling?

[timcleary]

I have this configuration and am wondering if anyone else can get smooth scrolling in games?  It seems i get screen tear no matter what options I select.  it is  most noticable in games that scroll fairly fast, an example would be ghosts and goblins.  I get this horizontol line that goes through the picture every few seconds too, i'm guessing it is something to do with refresh rates and syncing to the monitor and such.  So anyone who has games running nice with this vid card can you post your configuration in mame?  I am running a 1.8 athlon with 512 megs of ram in win2k so I don't think that is the problem.

thanks for any help.

Tim

[seibu]

Okay, first thing to try is -tb to enable triple buffering.

If that doesn't work, it may be that you are running the game in one of the arcadeVGA modes which is not 60Hz. Try running in one of the modes listed here as 60Hz: http://www.ultimarc.com/avgainst.html

For games which did not originally run at 60Hz, you will need to run either outside windows, or force the speed of the game driver to exactly 60Hz using smoothMAME or AdvanceMAME.

[tcleary]

thanks, i will try those suggestions.  

[tcleary]

For games which did not originally run at 60Hz, you will need to run either outside windows, or force the speed of the game driver to exactly 60Hz using smoothMAME or AdvanceMAME.

run outside of windows how?  should i just throw DOS on my mame box?

[seibu]

For games which did not originally run at 60Hz, you will need to run either outside windows, or force the speed of the game driver to exactly 60Hz using smoothMAME or AdvanceMAME.

run outside of windows how?  should i just throw DOS on my mame box?

Well, that depends on how new your PC is. Putting DOS on a newer PC is a bad idea because some newer hardware (especially sound cards) may only work under Windows, and DOS cannot take full advantage of newer hardware in terms of performance.

There's no problem with windows if you play 60Hz standard res games in the ArcadeVGA resolutions which are 60Hz. If you're happy to force non-60Hz drivers to 60z using advanceMAME / smoothMAME and  don't mind using hardware stretch for med res games, there's no point going the DOS or Linux route at all.

The DOS / Linux + advanceMAME solution is only for those who absolutely must run everything in the original video modes, or who have a med res monitor and want to run med res games in the proper modes.

[tcleary]

For games which did not originally run at 60Hz, you will need to run either outside windows, or force the speed of the game driver to exactly 60Hz using smoothMAME or AdvanceMAME.

run outside of windows how?  should i just throw DOS on my mame box?

There's no problem with windows if you play 60Hz standard res games in the ArcadeVGA resolutions which are 60Hz. If you're happy to force non-60Hz drivers to 60z using advanceMAME / smoothMAME and  don't mind using hardware stretch for med res games, there's no point going the DOS or Linux route at all.

are you sure there is no problem?  i still get screen tear no matter what I do,  i know it is really minimal but it is irritating.  it is a horizontal line that goes from top to bottom once every second or every few seconds in games that scroll, it isn't game specific.  good games to see this problem are ghouls and ghosts and rastan.  just run to the right as fast as you can.

[GMZombie]

ok brotha i am wondering if you have went into the darkside and tried advancemame? the darkside is the best side by the way lol. anyways i just setup a machine with a xp2600 256mb ram 30gig drive and windows 98. i DID NOT use just dos. i booted into windows and had my fav frontend Arcadeos boot from the getgo. i like advmame cause you can customize every aspect of every video mode for mame. not saying other ones are inferior just advmame has a better arcade monitor support. im not sure of the site name but look up advancemame on google.com or your fav search engine and you will finde the site, the official is not advancemame.com that is a unoffical site but i believe it has a link to the original page. if your not familer with advmame or how to adjust settings read the readmes and such. there is a prog called advcfg and that will start the process. afterwards there is a prog called advv and that is how you adjust your settings. remember to use advcfg first then advv. if you have any questions just ask as i feel confident that i know alot of advmame as i installed it on 4 machines now. it is my mame emu of choice...

[timcleary]

i'm seriously thinking about joining the darkside since that is the only way to get games running at their best.  i think i'm going to install linux on my mame box and run with that.  I'm sure i will be posting for help, heh.

[seibu]

i'm seriously thinking about joining the darkside since that is the only way to get games running at their best.  i think i'm going to install linux on my mame box and run with that.  I'm sure i will be posting for help, heh.

Well, I never envisaged running Linux when I originally started building, but since I made the switch I've never looked back...

Sorry you couldn't shift the tearing with regular mame. If the game driver is running at 60Hz, you're specifying an ArcadeVGA mode which is true 60Hz (not all of them are) and you've enabled tripple buffering then I have no idea what could be causing the tearing.

BTW if you have a broadband internet connection then I would reccommend Gentoo Linux. If not, I would personally go for Fedora. If the machine is only for MAME, don't install X or a Window manager, just run advanceMAME from the console using SVGAlib.

[whammoed]

Maybe send Andy at ultimarc an email?  Would be a shame not to use the avga when you've already purchased it.  Certainly would be easier.  If you decide to go with linux/advmame I have a page on it:
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/whammoed/whammocade/software.htm

[tcleary]

i emailed andy and he says the triple buffering problem is a driver issue and he is going to put up updated drivers.  I actually am using Gentoo linux, haven't gotten everything setup though, thanks for the info, i'll have to check out that page on linux/advmame.