Author Topic: The Gold Mine (Read 98610 times)

Zakk · « **Reply #360 on:** November 18, 2004, 04:09:53 pm »

Oh this baby has already won the Mamey for best cab. I just told my 'judge buddies' I wasn't going to post it until it was 'done'. The only one I could imagine knocking this one out of the spotlight would be the Mission Impossible cab, but we all know that that one is just an urban myth!

Congrats Kraw, I'll wait a week or so to see if you get pics of the finishing touches, but the crown is definitely yours!

http://www.mameworld.net/massive/Awards/Cabinets/cabinets.html

KrawDaddy · « **Reply #361 on:** November 19, 2004, 10:37:35 am »

Quote from: Zakk on November 18, 2004, 04:09:53 pm

Oh this baby has already won the Mamey for best cab. I just told my 'judge buddies' I wasn't going to post it until it was 'done'. The only one I could imagine knocking this one out of the spotlight would be the Mission Impossible cab, but we all know that that one is just an urban myth!

Congrats Kraw, I'll wait a week or so to see if you get pics of the finishing touches, but the crown is definitely yours!

Unbelievable!

I had though the cab was too lacking in the artwork area (and other places) to ever take the idea of a Mamey or The Hall of Fame too seriously...

Well maybe this will entice me enough to get off my bumm and some dimensions out there so others can fix my mistakes.

Next tuesday I have access to a CNC mill and hope to cut my pinball bar.

Kind Regards\
Kraw

Ill be out of town this weekend

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #362 on:** November 19, 2004, 02:59:30 pm »

Quote from: Zakk on November 18, 2004, 04:09:53 pm

...the Mission Impossible cab

Impossibel?? Was that a freudian slip?

Or is there another cab thread I should be following....

fredster · « **Reply #363 on:** November 19, 2004, 03:55:51 pm »

I don't know what to say.

It's just too awesome for words. It's the ultimate mame machine bar none.

It's stylistic, it's functional, it's slick.

I stand back with the crowd and bow to you, I am not worthy.

Zakk · « **Reply #364 on:** November 19, 2004, 04:07:40 pm »

Quote from: Pixelhugger on November 19, 2004, 02:59:30 pm

Quote from: Zakk on November 18, 2004, 04:09:53 pm
...the Mission Impossible cab

Impossibel?? Was that a freudian slip? Or is there another cab thread I should be following....

Heh heh heh play on words

yourfatmama · « **Reply #365 on:** November 24, 2004, 11:39:52 am »

Very innovative and unique. haha did the "measurements of.." question ever get answered. maybe Kraw will put up a build diary on the web answering these questions?

patrickl · « **Reply #366 on:** November 24, 2004, 12:59:39 pm »

Quote from: yourfatmama on November 24, 2004, 11:39:52 am

Very innovative and unique. haha did the "measurements of.." question ever get answered. maybe Kraw will put

Hiub1 · « **Reply #367 on:** December 11, 2004, 05:06:07 pm »

KrawDaddy, for the life of me I CAN'T remember where I saw this, I want to say it was OSCAR but I am not sure. Someone made an actual bump sensor using some sort of shock sensor from radioshack. It was fairly simple to do, and all you had to do was mount it to somewhere stable and it would create an input that you could wire to the keyboard encoder. I don't know if I am just rambling here and you already know of this, but if not maybe someone here remembers where to look for it and can help you out.

Amazing woodworking too, very impressive.

BobbyG66 · « **Reply #368 on:** December 13, 2004, 08:32:14 am »

Here is some tilt/bump info:

http://www.arcadecontrols.com/arcade_vdt.shtml

KrawDaddy · « **Reply #369 on:** December 14, 2004, 07:00:19 pm »

Heres a little update...

Pinball bar has been milled. I milled a spacer to elevate the plate and allow for the glass bevel clearance. Feels more realistic.

What do ya think?

Kind Regards\

Kraw

DrewKaree · « **Reply #370 on:** December 15, 2004, 12:24:59 am »

Sweet! And excellent idea!

Hiub1 · « **Reply #371 on:** December 15, 2004, 01:40:52 am »

Sorry for my ignorance, but could you explain what that does? Is it just aesthetic or does it serve a purpose? As you can tell I do not have a lot of knowledge about pinballs, but that looks intriguing.

Thanks again and keep up the good work, Fred.

KrawDaddy · « **Reply #372 on:** December 15, 2004, 01:46:59 am »

The metal piece is off a real pinball machine. Its modified to mount on my CP and provide the feel and comfort of the beveled corner for my palms.

HaRuMaN · « **Reply #373 on:** December 15, 2004, 07:29:45 am »

Oh man, that is TIGHT! I wanna come over and play, lol.

DrewKaree · « **Reply #374 on:** December 15, 2004, 02:26:23 pm »

Quote from: HarumaN on December 15, 2004, 07:29:45 am

Oh man, that is TIGHT! I wanna come over and play, lol.

Well, that's because he has the screws in there. I'm sure if it's TOO tight, he can back 'em out and make it a bit looser. And how can you tell if it's tight just by looking at a picture?

Chris · « **Reply #375 on:** December 21, 2004, 03:25:52 pm »

Quote from: DrewKaree on December 15, 2004, 02:26:23 pm

Quote from: HarumaN on December 15, 2004, 07:29:45 am
Oh man, that is TIGHT!

DrewKaree · « **Reply #376 on:** December 21, 2004, 07:38:51 pm »

Quote from: Chris on December 21, 2004, 03:25:52 pm

And then put little microswitches (is that redundant?) under them and map those to nudge...

I think if you had said "little tiny microswitches - the miniscule kind", THAT would have been redundant

mpm32 · « **Reply #377 on:** December 22, 2004, 12:04:59 pm »

Source for tiny microswitches. My daughter just got the two barbies from the princess and the pauper. These things sing. In the box they had a very small microswitch that was wired to the back of the barbies with a plug that is used as the demo button when in the box. While I was taking apart all of those wire ties, stitched thread, tape and zip ties I saw the switches. I pilfered them instantly. Don't know what I'll use them for yet.

PS, why are the toys so imbedded with the packages now. (I know theft) What a pain in the azz. Are these things machine packed? Nah they must have hundreds of tiny fingers in asia doing it. Talk about a suckey job. Oh well, toy remover from package is my station in life on x-mas morn.

Marky_1979 · « **Reply #378 on:** February 07, 2005, 10:09:18 am »

Would there be any chance you could send me the plans for your Arcade please? I so want to make a cabinet like your's it looks amazing.

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #379 on:** February 08, 2005, 10:23:54 pm »

this is probably the sweetest cabinet i ever saw

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #380 on:** February 11, 2005, 11:58:04 am »

This cabinet really looks fantastic and has given me tons of ideas for my project
But I am not used to having the monitor laying back so far
How much of an angle do you have it on KrawDaddy?
Is this so that all four players have a better view of the screen?
I am worried about glare and feeling like I need to lean way over to get a good view.
If you could take a few pictures of a game from the player's eye view that would be very helpful!

DarkKobold · « **Reply #381 on:** February 11, 2005, 02:50:58 pm »

That cabinet is so great, one would not need any other arcade machines, especially not a warlords cocktail...

But seriously, nice job. Great innovation.

KrawDaddy · « **Reply #382 on:** February 12, 2005, 12:08:37 am »

Thanks for the compliments guys. The monitor is at 35 degrees. Its great for verticle games but Iam going to up the ante to 40 degrees on the next version. I dont have a ceiling light fixture in my living room so glare has not been a problem. One flaw which I have taken care of in my next version of the monitor box is that the screen sits too high from the CP when in the horizontal position. Also I have come up with a way to shave 3 to 4 inches off the width of the cab. The next version will move the marquee closer and the sides will shroud the monitor more. I also want to use a motor to rotate the monitor.

Also, it has come to my attention that people think my cab is too big. Thanks for the input....

Many people have asked for plans but Iam not going to release them. this was my first cab and has its share of design flaws. My next version will be started this spring and I will be posting measurements as I build it so others can build along. I will also release any artwork that I have made.

Kind Regards\

Kraw

Silver · « **Reply #383 on:** February 12, 2005, 11:15:10 am »

Hey, just want to say its an amazing cab you've already built - And I'm looking forward to seeing your mark 2!

I started drawing up plans for a rotating monitor a while back based on http://lillypad.4mg.com/lillypad/rotatepad.html - which is what I believe you based yours on?

I stopped when I realised I was after a large monitor (25" or bigger) as I figured it would be hard to implement. Seeing yours has re-inspired me however! I like your monitor 'stand' that sits on the base unit - looks nice and sturdy - but I have a couple of questions if thats ok.

1) It appears that the monitor (and the circular frame its attached to) is simply placed with its 4 castors resting on the 'hole' peice, and against the 2 castors pointing 'up' (I hope that made sense). Is that all that keeps it in place? I'm planning a monitor at less of an angle and am concerned at how to keep it fixed.

2) How do you rotate it? you don't appear to have left a 'slot' for the wheel to stick out at the side. Do you have to lift the glass and push it round? Also - what keeps it in position once rotated?

Oh, and also - I assume it is degaussed (or re-powered) on rotation to correct for colour issues (magnetic lines etc...). Is this manual or automatic?

Apologies for all the questions - I *really* like what you've done.

KrawDaddy · « **Reply #384 on:** February 12, 2005, 11:40:57 am »

Quote from: Silver on February 12, 2005, 11:15:10 am

Hey,

Silver · « **Reply #385 on:** February 12, 2005, 02:35:53 pm »

Quote from: KrawDaddy on February 12, 2005, 11:40:57 am

Well your correct about the casters, thats all it is.

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #386 on:** February 14, 2005, 12:19:09 am »

Having the ability to go back and change the monitor angle or anything else is a great feature of having a modular design.

I'm shopping for parts right now.
I hope I'll be ready to build along with you on your M2 project
Could you post a parts list of what you plan to use?

I had an idea of using ball transfer units around the wood circle for the monitor rotation

http://www.balltransfer.com/index.htm
http://www.omnitrack.co.uk/
Possibly sandwiching the lower portion of the circle to keep it from flipping up.
These roll really well, you might have seen them on a conveyor assembly before

KrawDaddy · « **Reply #387 on:** February 15, 2005, 08:01:44 pm »

What if we designed the cab around a monitor box that had a heavy duty industrial hinge up front so we could rotate the monitor and change its angle from Pac-man layback to verticle for shooting games!

Kraw

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #388 on:** February 15, 2005, 08:33:46 pm »

I'm not sure what you mean..
Have you seen the rotating mount from the Quadro arcade machines?
Carsten Wessels used one in his Centipede cabinet.
http://www.retrospieler.de/e-monitormount.html
http://www.retrospieler.de
It looks like it was made from a bicycle rim and some old skate wheels or something.

Very good design though.
It should hold the monitor just fine at any angle.

KrawDaddy · « **Reply #389 on:** February 15, 2005, 08:43:57 pm »

I meant to change the angle on the fly. just as you would rotate it on the fly.

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #390 on:** February 15, 2005, 09:30:40 pm »

OK, I get it now

You could put a hinge near the top or bottom of the screen or a pivot in the middle.

I think a hinge at the bottom would be best so that you could keep a constant on the amount of spacing from the control panel.

KrawDaddy · « **Reply #391 on:** February 15, 2005, 09:45:17 pm »

Quote from: IntruderAlert on February 14, 2005, 12:19:09 am

Having the ability to go back and change the monitor angle or anything else is a great feature of having a modular design.

I'm shopping for parts right now.
I hope I'll be ready to build along with you on your M2 project
Could you post a parts list of what you plan to use?

I had an idea of using ball transfer units around the wood circle for the monitor rotation

http://www.balltransfer.com/index.htm
http://www.omnitrack.co.uk/
Possibly sandwiching the lower portion of the circle to keep it from flipping up.
These roll really well, you might have seen them on a conveyor assembly before

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #392 on:** February 15, 2005, 09:53:59 pm »

Well, I really like the Quadro mount too.
The "skate wheels" fit into the rim so that it's impossible for it to flip up
You would just need to weld the octagon frame and drill out holes for the wheels, motor mount, and switches.
You could weld your tilt hinges onto the octagon frame as well.

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #393 on:** February 18, 2005, 01:13:58 am »

I found out from Carsten that the Quadro mount IS actually based on a bicycle rim and the motor to turn it is just a wiper motor off of a car

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #394 on:** February 23, 2005, 09:41:15 am »

Hey KrawDaddy!
Where did you go dude?

I'm still working on getting my parts together.
I have an ArcadeVGA and IPAC on the way and I hope to get a monitor within the next week

Can you give me a rough idea of the other stuff I'll need so I can be working on getting it all together?

If I end up with a few extra materials that will still be fine.
I'll just use it on my second project

KrawDaddy · « **Reply #395 on:** February 23, 2005, 09:18:23 pm »

Hey dude, Iam still with ya!

I have a friend that is going to build with me. Were going to set a web site up so you can follow along with us. This weekend we hope to make some important decisions on the design and then start with the monitor box. Youll need a good router!

As for arcade parts, take your time, and buy em when you need them. New products come out all the time.

Kind Regards\

Kraw

Silver · « **Reply #396 on:** February 23, 2005, 09:58:26 pm »

Hey thats good news! Looking forward to seeing more of you superb handy work....

I've been throwing together some sketch designs for my cab, and I have to stay I my well pinch your monitor box design.

Although It does not look as nice as yours as I want screen to be more upright.... (makes the curve at the back a lot sharper).

I'm new to routing (this could be interesting) but now I've got an excuse to learn. You've already thrown plenty of tips in this thread, so I'd love to see the odd tip on setting up jigs etc... (hint hint!) I'd be interested to know how the triangular supports at the inside bottom of monitor box are attached....

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #397 on:** February 24, 2005, 07:44:21 am »

I have an older router attached to a little routing table
but I have been thinking about getting a new one.
Can you recommend one that doesn't cost a fortune?

I'd also like to know how you deal with all of the router dust.
Router dust makes my lungs angry

Zero_Hour · « **Reply #398 on:** February 24, 2005, 04:58:39 pm »

I'm A fan of this kit -

Porter Cable 1-34 In. HP Variable Speed Router Kit
Porter Cable
1-34 In. HP Variable Speed Router Kit
Model 694VK
$199.00
(Home Depot Listing)

Not sure what price range you are looking to stay in. This kit has a fixed and plunge base, so you could save some money by picking up just the fixed base model. The reason I'm sold on them is that the Woodshop at my local college uses them - and they have highschoolers beating up on the equipment all the time. The guy who runs the shop says the Porter Cable Routers are the only thing the kids haven't been able to break (5+ years of year round use).

I just picked up the above for my home shop a few weeks ago, and I think they are rock solid. Possibly the last router you'll need.

As for the dust - usually just a disposable dust mask works for me. If it is mainly your router table causing the discomfort - look into a dusct collection cabinet. They work in tandem with a shop-vac or other dust collection system. Very slick, and effective.

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #399 on:** February 24, 2005, 11:19:35 pm »

I have a Porter Cable sander that I like quite a bit
Maybe i'll give their router a try

what's the plunge base for anyway?


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