TOKENS: Poll 3: Slogan VOTING CLOSED

[maraxle]

Star Wars is a icon as well. Star Wars has the added bonus of actually haveing arcade games made of it. Why don't we use the slogan "May the token be with you". It's sappy but yet a few years ago before Episode 1 was released I wouldn't be surpised if this got just as many votes as the LOTR slogan today.

Point really is that the slogan is a cheesy rip off of something that has nothing to do with arcade games.

"May the token be with you" doesn't flow very well.  "May the games be with you", maybe.  Or "The games are strong with this one".  How about "You are not a gamer... yet."

[Calawala]

"You are not a gamer... yet."

haha!  I like that

[Chris]

If you didn't know that it was a LotR reference, "one coin/token to play them all" would still sound pretty authentic.  It's not that far off from "One Token One Credit"

Well, then use "One Token One Credit".  Problem solved.  

and certainly more authentic than "Game Not Over".  I've never seen that on a token anywhere.

I agree that "Game Not Over" doesn't sound authentic on an arcade token; I resisted it from the beginning.  "Where The Game Never Ends" sounds like it could be on an arcade token (not far off from "Where A Kid Can Be A Kid" of Chuck E. Cheese fame), but "Game Not Over" does not.  The compromise seems to be "The Game Never Ends", which is unsatisfying, but most compromises are.  I still think the simple addition of "Where" to the beginning makes the token far more realistic, but I'm very much in the minority.

But the time for that debate has passed; those who will take either saying are happy, and all that's left are the partisans who will never change their mind, and get more stubborn and unhappy with every argument.  Pretty soon, people will be slinging unhappy smilies around, and eventually someone will compare someone on the other side to Hitler.  Godwin's Law in action.

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[KevSteele]

Pretty soon, people will be slinging unhappy smilies around, and eventually someone will compare someone on the other side to Hitler.  Godwin's Law in action.

I hope it doesn't come to that. We're all adults around here, right?

(Okay, okay, we're kids in adult's bodies, but still...  )

Kevin

[Stingray]

Well I'm not going to get all bent out of shape over this, and I hope no one else will either. It's just a minor detail in any case. If the "one token" slogan upsets so many people then by all means lets not use it. I think it's clever, but that's only my opinion. I'll be buying these tokens regardless of what the group decides.

I'm just happy that Santoro picked up the ball and is making this happen. I'll certainly not start throwing around the unhappy smilies! Here are a few to prove it!  

-S

[maraxle]

Seeing how close this one is probably going to end up, and given that this one has significantly more votes (15% more, actually) than any of the other polls, perhaps we should get the IP logs to make sure there hasn't been any ballot stuffing.  It's such a polarizing issue, after all...

[Chris]

Seeing how close this one is probably going to end up, and given that this one has significantly more votes (15% more, actually) than any of the other polls, perhaps we should get the IP logs to make sure there hasn't been any ballot stuffing.  It's such a polarizing issue, after all...

I was thinking just the same thing, but I was afraid to say it...

[Zakk]

These polls would be better without all the chatter.  Everyone seems to be trying to influence the voting the way they want it.  It should be a simple vote, with discussion in another thread.  Hey, you see the slogan, you pick the one you like.  Just me $.02

[maraxle]

Seeing how close this one is probably going to end up, and given that this one has significantly more votes (15% more, actually) than any of the other polls, perhaps we should get the IP logs to make sure there hasn't been any ballot stuffing.  It's such a polarizing issue, after all...

I was thinking just the same thing, but I was afraid to say it...

Understandable.  I figured that others were noticing that too, and most of my opinions are unpopular anyway, so what the heck.  

If the logs were not available, we could have a roll call, though that might be hard to administer.  Plus some people might like the anonymity of secret ballot.

[Chris]

Seeing how close this one is probably going to end up, and given that this one has significantly more votes (15% more, actually) than any of the other polls, perhaps we should get the IP logs to make sure there hasn't been any ballot stuffing.  It's such a polarizing issue, after all...

I was thinking just the same thing, but I was afraid to say it...

Understandable.  I figured that others were noticing that too, and most of my opinions are unpopular anyway, so what the heck.  

If the logs were not available, we could have a roll call, though that might be hard to administer.  Plus some people might like the anonymity of secret ballot.

On the other hand, both of the other polls are runaways, and this one has become so divisive that I can see people, even if they're not stuffing directly, encouraging people they know who aren't even planning to buy tokens to vote.

Maybe you should only be able to vote after Santoro receives your money via PayPal...

[Santoro]

Maybe you should only be able to vote after Santoro receives your money via PayPal...

There you go!

I think at 4pm, if we put the two tied entries up against each other the voters from the 'losing' slogans will allow a small majority to emerge.  If it is still tied after that, heck, I'll just pick one.  I can't stand this anymore. It's a quagmire.

[Chris]

Maybe you should only be able to vote after Santoro receives your money via PayPal...

If it is still tied after that, heck, I'll just pick one.  I can't stand this anymore. It's a quagmire.

If you do that, wear your flak jacket.

What do you consider tied?  Absolutely identical?  Within a couple of votes of identical?

Personally, I think it's already clear that most of the people have weighed in and the danger of false votes is getting higher.  I think we should have the top 3 vote off against each other, with the votes either here in the forum or by IM to you rather than a poll, and ignoring any of the votes by people who suddenly pop in out of nowhere.

--Chris

[nighthawk2099]

I agree with Chris on this..  Put the top 3 at 4pm up for a vote, but a PM vote so not to have 20 million polls running again...  One PM = One Vote.... whatever time table you feel is fair for voting.....

[patrickl]

I fail to see how "Game not over"  or "The game never ends" would be more authentic either. I only know "Game not over" in relation to MAME and noone that will play on my cab will know MAME. So in fact noone besides me will know what "Game not over" means.

[Santoro]

I agree with Chris on this..  Put the top 3 at 4pm up for a vote, but a PM vote so not to have 20 million polls running again...  One PM = One Vote.... whatever time table you feel is fair for voting.....

Why not an open thread with the voting there, rather than a poll.  I would rather not do the vote counting in private lest I be accused of rigging the votes again.

I also like the idea of only polling those who intend on buying.  If you vote, it is a gentleman's agreement that you are buying.  That might eliminate some clutter.

[patrickl]

That's a good idea, but if your vote is not picked then you would not be held to the "gentlemens agreement" right?

[Santoro]

That's a good idea, but if your vote is not picked then you would not be held to the "gentlemens agreement" right?

Unfortunately, yes.  

[SirPoonga]

A one day poll.  Us modem users didn't get a chance to vote.  How outragous.  I wanted "All your token belong to us"

[Chris]

A one day poll.  Us modem users didn't get a chance to vote.  How outragous.  I wanted "All your token belong to us"

"All your token are belong to us" would not fit in the available space.

[Santoro]

A one day poll.  Us modem users didn't get a chance to vote.  How outragous.  I wanted "All your token belong to us"

Based on a lot of solicited and unsolicited feedback, he group as a whole really wanted this to move along.   Read the theads - I have been bending over backwards trying to do what the group in general wanted.  Apologies to those who weren't able to check the forums during the voting period.  I have no doubt that there are others who are annoyed by this as well.


But I have to ask - what's it got to do with modems?

[JoyMonkey]

I think that he was just commenting that the voting flew by so quickly that dial-up modem people didn't have time to load the poll before it ended.  

I'm a little confused over this whole token thing. With so many different threads its hard to know where to look; what is the final design that's been decided and what is your cut-off date for orders?

[Santoro]

I'm a little confused over this whole token thing. With so many different threads its hard to know where to look; what is the final design that's been decided and what is your cut-off date for orders?

See my signature for the URL of the ordering thread.  I am taking pre-orders until I get enough to show that I really do have demand to cover most of the cost.   I don't imagine that will be more than a few days since I have about 20 already.

[SirPoonga]

But I have to ask - what's it got to do with modems?

Duh, if you haven't dialed up in a day  I have to keep the phone line open as much as possible, job hunting and all.