Cruis n usa and Cruis n World (MAME) link 2 players?

[lirogames]

hello everyone, I searched here in the group, and I didn't find anything, I would like to know if it is possible to play these beautiful games in a link, both on the same pc and via lan .. ..

[buttersoft]

IIRC it's not working. There's some more info in this thread - http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,161667.0/all.html

[Super-Becker]

In Cruis n World I can't put it in manual shift. No choice option appears. The game starts directly on automatic. I already tried to solve it in the test menu but there is no option for that. Can someone help me?

[Hydreigon]

The above info is no longer true. Someone else opened an issue in Mame regarding networking on this family of hardware (in reality it's a CPU mailbox bridged together similar to the Naomi multiboard system). There's even worse problems for other games that do not support LAN.

midvunit.cpp linking (Cruis'n World, Cruis'n USA): https://github.com/mamedev/mame/issues/9958

Bus network topology support: https://github.com/mamedev/mame/issues/9101

You can view a list of all the unsupported LAN capable games I listed here: https://github.com/Hydreigon223/mame/wiki/Arcade-Networking-QA

In Cruis n World I can't put it in manual shift. No choice option appears. The game starts directly on automatic. I already tried to solve it in the test menu but there is no option for that. Can someone help me?

Use Cruis'n World v2.4 instead of v2.5 because the latter was developed as a conversion kit for Hyperdrive arcade cabinets. Midway programmed this version to skip the transmission select due to Hyperdrive cabs not having a shifter to begin with.

[Super-Becker]

Hydreigon, thank you very much!

[jorgenjl2]

I don’t have a manual option in my Crusn World so I will have to check that out.

I added custom race leader code to Crusn USA and Cruis’n World. As soon as these are linkable I will make sure the code works for two (or 4 for World) players. I will post the code tomorrow in case anyone else wants to do this for games that don’t support it back in the day.

[jorgenjl2]

Just in case a Mame developer or people working on Crusn link mode see this forum post, I noticed that the dip switch settings in the Mame tab menu show question marks for the dip switch related to link lan mode. I looked at the manual and the dip switch 6 is the link lan mode and dip switch 7 is not used even though Mame acts like it may be a lan option. Dip switch 8 is the master/slave switch though.

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[jorgenjl2]

It looks like someone started to get Crusn USA Mame linked. It’s a work in progress but that is great news. This and the R San Francisco Rush project is awesome. I wonder if gpt5 will help when it comes out help speed up the development time on linking these.


https://youtu.be/HrLVG2da8MU?si=fffa24NnFI7RRA27

[SailorSat]

Well...


The best way I can describe how that link works is "crazy".
Still need to find a proper way to "frame sync" the thing =)

[SailorSat]

consider it "done".
all that is left on that one is offroad champions.

[theolditguy]

Holy crap! this is amazing! thank you!  Are you going to release a fork of mame or submit the changes to the mame devs?

[SailorSat]

probably both as my current pull requests are in limbo for like half a year now...

also i don't think that the proof-of-concept implementation is of the required "quality" to fit in baseline mame
currently working on getting offroad challenge working... for whatever reason every single v-unit game uses a different protocol 

[SailorSat]

probably both - my latest pull requests are still not merged after half a year.

currently working on offroad challenge.
every v-unit game implements its own protocol, although I can see the logical progression with it .)

[SailorSat]

probably both - my latest pull requests are still not merged after half a year.

currently working on offroad challenge.
every v-unit game implements its own protocol, although I can see the logical progression with it .)

[jorgenjl2]

consider it "done".
all that is left on that one is offroad champions.

WHAT!? This is awesome thanks so much SailorSat! This is a holy grail for me. Is this working well enough to go ahead and put on my 4 player cabinet build you think? We just need to wait for the Mame build and then change the cabinet ids like in the video?

[theolditguy]

In its current state, is it possible to link cruisn across a LAN with traditional mame arguments similar to how you link up virtua racing or is it multiple instances on one localhost only for now?

[SailorSat]

You can give a try for yourselves.

http://files.arianchen.de/cabmame/cruisnmame.zip

supports cruis'n usa, cruis'n world and off road challenge.
be sure to setup dips!

[theolditguy]

maybe just me, or I jumped the gun but that download just spins and never starts?  Thanks again!

[SailorSat]

i hate the internet sometimes...
http://www.rev-girls.de/cruisnmame.zip

gotta sort out the other webserver issues later...

[theolditguy]

that worked! thank you.  I should have results to report back shortly

[theolditguy]

3rd time is the charm?  Having trouble posting on the forum...

ANYWAYS!! THANK YOU SAILORSAT!!!! this works super well!!  Just set dip switches and go, didnt even need a bat file!

Is it OK if I post a youtube video about it?

[SailorSat]

sure, go ahead

[theolditguy]

https://youtube.com/shorts/SO_e-36-JFY

/edit Now I really need to get going and hang this beauty above my cabs!!!  Anyone have a manual on the Cruis'n USA topper? I think I can figure out the voltages but I don't want to accidently let out the magic smoke....

[lirogames]

Hello everyone, what wonderful news, I downloaded the mame version, which version of the game do I have to use? Would there be a bat file or commands to send to mame? I opened the games, set it to master And save, the message appears to enable the firewall, I enable it, but the games are not linked.

[theolditguy]

My setup:
two machines on 192.168.x.x Network
Local windows firewall completely disabled
cruisnmame
Cruis'n USA 4.5
set dip switchs (2) to linked mode on/enable
Set second machine to SLAVE in dipswitch settings


thats it!  I use a bat file for games like Virtua Racing but I didnt need one for this game/this version of mame.

[SailorSat]

You need to point -comm_remotehost to the "other" machine in mame.ini

[MotownC]

I cannot get a link on any of the 3 games. I downloaded the new cruisnmame on both machines, set the DIPS, set the -comm_remotehost to the opposite machine, but no link. Both machines are on same network with 192.168.1.x addresses. Firewall disabled. Not sure what else I could be missing.

[SailorSat]

I cannot get a link on any of the 3 games. I downloaded the new cruisnmame on both machines, set the DIPS, set the -comm_remotehost to the opposite machine, but no link. Both machines are on same network with 192.168.1.x addresses. Firewall disabled. Not sure what else I could be missing.

mhm...
are you sure the ips are correct?
can you ping them?

You could try linking with Virtua Racing - if that does link, your settings are fine.

other than that... "comm_localhost"should be 0.0.0.0 (or the local ip)
"comm_localport" and "comm_remoteport" should be 15112

[MotownC]

All 3 work now! Fantastic work! It appears I had separate .ini files for each game. Once those were deleted and it just used mame.ini, the link was complete. Thank you for this - great stuff.

[dgrace]

This is amazing thanks.
I'm curious if anyone else with T300rs Thrustmaster is also having issues setting the pedal settings? it's weird. Any other mame works fine. Just this build. I'm really struggling. I've tried using other build nvram cruisnusa folders and that helped a little. I tried recalibrating in test menu multiple times. It's strange. Probably something i'm doing wrong on my end. Just curious if there are any other T300rs users here that could help me troubleshoot. Thanks in advance.

[MotownC]

I don't have that wheel but what is the issue with the pedals?

[dgrace]

I don't have that wheel but what is the issue with the pedals?

Hard to explain, but whether I set the gas to joy1throttle, joy1throttle+, jou1throttle-, etc., it won't work correctly. It either won't work or it will accelerate on its own. It's weird. But if I use a nvram from a regular mame build for cruisn usa or world, then everything is fine. Im curious if any other T300rs users are having the same issue. I figured out a workaround, but just curious.

[MotownC]

I have the same issue with the Logitech DFGT. My workaround was to to set pedal 1 as brake- and pedal 2 as accelerator -. This seemed to work but I like your idea better since during selection process, it makes more sense to press gas pedal than brake.

[SailorSat]

oh... that rings a bell.
if I remember correctly - on my daytona setup - I had to "reverse" the pedal polarity for both pedals in the "analog input adjustments".
I don't have a wheel on my development machine.

[MotownC]

oh... that rings a bell.
if I remember correctly - on my daytona setup - I had to "reverse" the pedal polarity for both pedals in the "analog input adjustments".
I don't have a wheel on my development machine.

Ahh, ok, that makes sense. Simple switch in the analog settings (pedal reverse) and I'm back in business. Thanks again!

[jorgenjl2]

So that Mame exe link above works for Cruis’n World as well? I will definitely be trying this soon. I will also have to see if my race leader light (custom code since Crusn didn’t have a race leader light back in the day) works with the lan mode.

[SailorSat]

use http://files.arianchen.de/cabmame/cabmame0279.7z
that also contains the outputs.

[jorgenjl2]

So far so good. I have two player Crusn USA working and it’s incredible thank you! I just need to add it to my other two cabs that have race leader lights to verify outputs are the same. A few things I ran into:

1) I make my cfg files for games read only once I am done with them and then I copied my Crusn usa cfg file to this new Mame folder and the dip switches were not saving (and lan mode not working) due to this. Taking off the windows read only right click properties of the file fixed that. This probably only applies to me


2) Changing Mame.ini ip to point to each other worked great and lan works great but I could not get my controls to work at all even after copying from a Mame folder where it works so…

3) For some reason in Crusn in the Mame tab menu you have to go to the controls section and go to the second section (analog or something like that) and change the acclerator pedal to reverse. That fixed not being able to go past 2nd gear or being able to push gas to select .


I assume Crusn USA is only 2 players still right? As far as I know it was 2 in the arcade. For Crusn world, do we have to put the comm ip in a loop so racer 1 points to the ip of racer 2, racer 2 points to racer 3 ip, racer 3 ip points to racer 4, and racer 4 points to racer 1 in the Mame.ini (or crusnusa.ini or whatever it is called if you have a named ini for game specific controls)?

[SailorSat]

Yup, Cruis'n USA is 2 players only. Cruis'n World and Off Challenge do 4 players.

The network is supposed to be pointing around in a ring, like you described.

[jorgenjl2]

Awesome I will give Crusn World a try and put Cruis’n USA on my two cabs with a race leader
lights and update everyone.

[jorgenjl2]

https://youtube.com/shorts/SO_e-36-JFY

/edit Now I really need to get going and hang this beauty above my cabs!!!  Anyone have a manual on the Cruis'n USA topper? I think I can figure out the voltages but I don't want to accidently let out the magic smoke....

Is this a working leader light and player 1 or player 2 lights up based on whoever is in the lead or does only the marquee light up? I saw pictures of that before but I have never known anyone who has one. If it doesn’t light up individual racers you can use my code and add a led strip to light up the leader if light will shine through the sides. If it does light up, I have no clue Cruis’n had that feature.