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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2004, 09:11:10 am »
I can see the drop to $130 before E3, but I doubt MS'll drop it to $99 for the holiday season.  My completely unqualified and uneducated guess is that it won't drop to $99 before 2005.  What I think we'll see later in the year is another bundle, probably X-box, two games (Maybe NFL Fever and Crimson Skies?), spare controller and possibly a 3-month Live subscription.  The goal being to get player hooked on the subscription service (and revenue) for Live.  That helps offset the loss on the console, while cementing players to the X-box brand.  I just wish Sony and EA would get over themselves and realize the X-Box Live is really the ideal way to do online console gaming.  
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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2004, 05:10:01 pm »
I just wish Sony and EA would get over themselves and realize the X-Box Live is really the ideal way to do online console gaming.  

well, i don't see sony making xbox live compatible games anytime soon, but EA actually is going to make an xbox live game, Battlefield 1942, and hopefully madden will follow suit:

http://www.1up.com/article2/0,4364,1467009,00.asp
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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2004, 10:23:27 am »
I didn't mean Sony interacing with X-box live.  I meant sony creating a live-like online experience of their own.  
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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2004, 12:54:42 pm »
I heard that this summer Xbox's will sell for $99

Also, www.gamespot.com shows Battlefield 1942 having a status of "cancelled"
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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2004, 03:44:30 pm »
$99 is unlikely.
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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2004, 11:18:50 am »
well no matter what it drops too, instead of the Assbox sucking at $199 or $179, it will now suck at the low low price of $99!!!  (system wars comments ;D)

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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2004, 01:18:48 am »
The assbox that is physically better than any of the other systems in every single way (aesthetics aside, oh...and Gamecube has the best controller) and can be used as a complete streaming media center for virtually any kind of video or music file (access your MP3 collection at your home theater, instead of your PC).  And that only goes into one of the legal uses of modding your X-box.  It doesn't even touch the exciting illegal things you can do with it.  In addition to getting all the same multiplatform greats that Sony gets, and more than Nintendo gets it also has a totally respectable library of exclusives like Rallisport Challenge, Crimson Skies, Top Spin, Halo, Syberia and a bunch of others.

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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2004, 10:32:31 am »
well i have to say that you did point out some pro's of other systems so props to you on that.  

just my personal pref. i just dont like the xbox exclusive titles enough i guess to warrant an assbox purchase.  halo is cool, but you can play it on pc....which apparently is the trend with a lot of their "exclusive" games.  which is something i dont get, why do all the best selling assbox games go to pc as well?  doesnt that take away the "exclusive" label?  halo is a great game, but why should i shell out more money to get a system with a crappy controller, and for an online service (although cool) that i have to pay monthly for???  i love nintendo, but when i was going to buy a second system i weighed my options and went with ps2 mainly because the online play for the EA sports titles and most other titles were free!  in my opinion, the assbox has lots of ports but why play on that system when its a crappy controller....and they also have some exclusives, but if given enough time they come out on either all systems, or more importantly straight to pc so whats the motivation???  in my opinion, without the hacks and stuff you do with the assbox(voiding warranty) its just another console-pc with bill gates backing it.  

in other words....too much money, not enough quality.  just my two cents, so dont get all pissed and start flaming, chill.  no "nintendo is a kiddie system" or "ps2 isnt powerful enough" blah blah blah.  there are flaws in all the systems, but it seems the assbox has more...and AssBox just rolls off the tongue nicely dont you think ::)

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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2004, 01:19:16 pm »
halo is cool, but you can play it on pc....which apparently is the trend with a lot of their "exclusive" games.  which is something i dont get, why do all the best selling assbox games go to pc as well?  doesnt that take away the "exclusive" label?  halo is a great game, but why should i shell out more money to get a system with a crappy controller, and for an online service (although cool) that i have to pay monthly for???

Not do defend the "assbox" but Halo was exclusive for 2 years.  Its obviously not a reason to buy the xbox now.  And it makes perfect sense to me to release for the PC as it is a great game, and now simply adds more sales on another platform.  Also it was supposed to wet the appetite of non xbox users to want Halo2 (which was supposed to be out by now...but they screwed up that plan).

Anyway, "exclusive" usually means for a limitied time only.  Unfortunally xbox has no game which now would could be considered a system seller (at least until Halo2 comes out).

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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2004, 01:22:45 pm »
yes it took 2 years, but it eventually go to the pc.  thats my point.  you arent going to see mario kart or zelda going to other platforms.  which is what warrants a gamecube purchase to me.  ps2...free online play is what made me buy it.  so to me, the ps2 and gamecube offer things that will never be available (well ps2 may eventually start charging for online play) on any other platform.  xbox games however, will usually go multiplatform in some way or another.  halo2 im sure will be great, but give it 2 years, and ill be able to play it on pc.  thats my point.

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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2004, 02:43:31 pm »
The PC is not considered a direct competitor to consoles.  Exclusivity contracts do not apply to the PC, which is why you see PC ports of so-called exclusive titles.  It happens with all of the consoles, not just Xbox.  Look at Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill, Grand Theft Auto (it finally got ported over to the Xbox, but that was after the exclusivity contract had expired) and the Final Fantasy games and the Tomb Raider franchise for just a few examples of PS and PS2 exclusive games that are released for the PC.  Companies get special deals from the console manufacturer in exchange for exclusivity such as having to pay Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft lower royalties on sales.  Since the console manufacturers do not see the PC games market as affecting the sales of the console market they do not require exclusivity to apply there.  Therefore, the makers of high-profiles games will port to the PC even when bound by an exclusivity contract.

This probably happens a little more with Xbox than the others simply because the architectures are so similar that it takes relatively little time and money to port an Xbox game to the PC, but virtually all high profile games for the PS2 make it to the PC.

The thing I think is just damn funny is when someone refuses to like one of these systems.  It's like saying I love Mercedes, and HATE BMW.  It's one thing to say I like Mercedes more than BMW, but there's simply no justification for the polarity.

The Gamecube has only two things going for it.  Nintendo software, and it's inspired controller.  That's it.  For me, that's a lot.  Of all the systems Gamecube is the first one I owned (not counting a PS2 I managed to get my hands on and sell for $800 on ebay during the initial shortage).  But look at all the Gamecube's shortcomings.  RPGs are virtually non-existant (I know, I know, they finally have one).  Publishers of games appealing to adults practically ignore the console.  Online play?  Don't make me laugh.  I bought a broadband adapter almost two years ago and haven't used it one time because I never got Phantasy Star Online.  I assumed that other games would take advantage of it, but in two years not even a single game has used it.  Nintendo made the thing and not even they have made a single game that takes advantage of it.  Totally unacceptable.  Still, it's by far the least expensive system and is more powerful than PS2, and being the platform that Nintendo games play on is not insignificant.

The Xbox, while you have to pay for it, has by far the most comprehensive online game service (and it looks like EA is finally going to start supporting it).  It is the only console capable of Dolby Digital 5.1 surround in games.  99% of multiplatform games, look and play (framerate is paramount to gameplay) the best on the Xbox.  That's important.  Most of the great games are multiplatform.  Splinter Cell, Prince of Persia, Madden, Tony Hawk, Soul Caliber, etc.  Exclusives are important, but don't discount the multiplatforms.  It's the only platform that supports high definition.  Hell, PS2 doesn't even support progressive scan output.  Speaking of online play, Xbox is the only platform that comes with a broadband adapter built into the box, which is why so many games are online enabled.  It also has a hard drive, virtually eliminating the need for memory cards and opening up all kinds of possibilities in addition to ripping music.  Most of all, though, the hackability of the Xbox allows it to do SOOOOOO many more things than PS2 and Gamecube.  How about taking your Xbox to a friend's house and having 50 games on the hard drive that can play directly from the hard drive without ever putting in a disk.  If you get tired of playing games you also happen to have your entire music collection, or a couple seasons of the Sopranos or West Wing or Southpark or Porno :) sitting on the hard drive.  Don't want to keep it all on the hard drive?  No problem, it's fully networkable so you can stream that stuff straight from your PC in another room or stream radio right from the internet.  MP3, Mpeg 2, Divx, Xvid....it'll play practically anything.  And once again, there is a totally respectable number of great exclusive games for the platform.  There really are a few things to like about the "assbox"

And last, there's PS2.  This one's easy.  Crappiest hardware, best overall library of games.  More of everything.  More great games.  More good games.  More crap.  The overall library beats Xbox or Gamecube hands down (though any game that appears on multiple systems will look and play better on either of the other systems).

You're only shooting yourself in the foot with your boycot.  The extra cost of an Xbox goes a LONG way.  Ask yourself why you pay so damn much for a PS2.  That's a much better question.  It's the oldest and least powerful system, meaning that it uses the least expensive technology so can be manufactured for the lowest cost.  Due to the shear quantities Sony has sold they have the greatest economies of scale available to them that should further reduce production costs.  PS2 also does not include much of the hardware that Xbox has, like the network adapter and the hard drive.  Think about that when you talk about the Xbox being too expensive.  
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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2004, 01:55:03 am »
What's wrong witht he xbox?  Xbox live is a good enough reason to get it.  Who cares if it doesn't have many exclusives?  Many that are cross platformers are better on the xbox anyways.

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Re:XBOX price drop
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2004, 06:39:40 am »
I realy hope you are talking about the S controlers... those original ones were friggin huge.  I'm almost positive I have the biggest hands here and I even prefer the S controler.
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