Thing with the 4 player, I have a 9 year old and a 6 year old son, and we play quite a bit of games together. They have a few neighborhood friends that come over all of the time as well. They also love the old arcade games like TMNT, Simpsons, etc. I love the "flight simulators", so I would like the flight stick but now that you guys made me think about it, I would only play about 3 simulator games, so not worth the extra price (or space). I didn't think of the angled panel, that would suck for someone on the 3 or 4 player side. Trackball is a must though.