Golden Tee 2005 No Inputs

[goldengraham]

Hey everyone,
Been fighting with this for a bit now and I hope someone can help me. I have a Golden Tee 2005 I purchased as is not long ago. The unit will boot up and displays properly, sound even works, trackball too.

My issue is that no inputs work. I can only get to setup by using the board switch. After I get there I cannot select anything because "Start" wont work. The only other input I can test for sure is coin 1 and it is also unresponsive.

I have tested the input all the way to the i/o? chip (there are 4 of them?) and I do get 220ohm when a button in pressed.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Graham

[ed12]

on the green or red board there is 4 input I/o chips they then interface a Spartan chip.
if some one applied 12 volts to any of these input ports the chips will blow.
on the board
right beside the jama input header
there is a 4 bank switch
switch #1 turn it on from off
power cycle game , it should come back up after boot and go right into "service"
if it dose ? then u have a stuck switch on the control panel , coin door etc
if it dose not come up to service? replace the input gates

ed

[ed12]

this is the switch I am talking about

ed

[goldengraham]

I have used the switches to get to the service menu but I cannot select input test as start doesn't work.

Is there a way to test those input chips?

Thanks
GG

[ed12]

hi
u either missed my point or your answer confuses me
the switch I posted the picture of.
it is called a definte test switch
if u did as I asked and the board rebooted to service ?
then chances are the input I/o is working
if on the other hand it did not go to test as demanded by sw#1 of the 4 switch bank ?
then the input bank is not working.
so with that in hand they are a normal ttl  style chip in a small foot print tsop style package.
see attached pdf

ed

[goldengraham]

Thanks for the help,
If I put sw 1 in the "on" position  it boots to service menu.

[ed12]

now were getting somewhere
here is what u need to do
chk the jamma ground from jamma  head its self
to all of the switches on the control panel.
also make sure u do not have a stuck micro switch
to do that test (micro switch test ) unplug the ground or return wire from the switches
all of the switches then 1 at a time in test mode touch ground to the other side of the switch to see if it activates
the on screen input
so -test or service-scroll down to input test (switches). and 1 at a time ground the other side of the switch
it should show on screen that it is active
if it passes this test ? then the input I/o is fine
and if u still do not have control after that test ? get back to me

ed

[goldengraham]

Is there a way to activate the input test screen without having a start button?

[ed12]

do let this sound demeaning
can u trace wires ?
if so then the s/w-tests/w's are clearly listed on the jamma input header
if your listing is missing? say so I will post it for u

ed

[goldengraham]

I can test the wires. I have the book. Gimme a couple hours and I'll get back to you.

[ed12]

k

ed

[goldengraham]

Hey Ed,
I tested like you said I should no changes, no inputs registers.
I even tried letting the game boot into the game, then disconnecting the jamma connector and jumping the "coin 1" to gnd to see if it would register the coin... no go. Which of the 4 chips is most likely the issue? Is it possible to change them out with something socketted?

GG

[ed12]

they are surface mount
u have to replace them with surface mount
my fear is it may not be the I/o lines
but rather u2 >exlink spartan xc520xl<
if u have a logic probe ? and or a scope ?
I could tell u better.
but from here with basic equipment we could run a few fast tests
the 74ls541 is a OCTAL BUFFER/LINE DRIVER. WITH 3-STATE OUTPUTS
inputs as follows
2-9
outputs as follows
18-11

1 and 19 are your tristate enable/disable nand gate

it is a buffer because the input side is 3.3 volts with respect to ground
the output side is normal 5v ttl
u could in service screen/test-switches
try grounding the inputs 1 at a time and see if they show up on the screen as such.
and by inputs I mean pins 2-9 be VERY CAREFUL
it would be a VERY BAD MOVE to try to tie them high
if that fails? u would need to go deeper or get the board repaired if u can go deeper ?
I will certainly try to help u

ed

[goldengraham]

So do the outputs correspond directly to outputs? ie input 1 - output 1? Can I force the outputs high to test whether or not its the spartan chip or something else? also, using the switch to get into the service menu, i cant get to the input test screen, as I have no start button. Is there another way?

GG

[ed12]

if sw51 is not working ?
then u are sunk until u can trace back to which of the 4 chips do what
I have a road map here some where
that I did a few years ago when kevin had his problem with the I/o
stay away from the Spartan what ever u do. if u short it even a little
you will be kissing the board bye bye as they no longer have stock and exlink no longer makes that series of chip
nor do they program them any more.
I will see if I can dig it up
it may be in a saved txt format now but it will help u some

ed

[goldengraham]

Sorry, SW51 switch 1 does get me into the service screen but not the input test screen.

[goldengraham]

One of the sockets on U26 is giving me issues. Sometimes one of the connection doesnt make up. Any chance that is related?

[ed12]

well kinda yes
u26 is the interface otp for the Spartan
(tells the Spartan what to do) and expect (sets the registers up to there internal preprogramed state)
so yes if u can replace that socket then do so. will not hurt
just go steady and easy
then get back to me I have a board here with the I/o's off of it right now
so mapping it is a no brainer now

ed

[goldengraham]

I will see if I can find a new socket locally if not I'll be waiting for internet.
Thanks
GG

[ed12]

8 pin dip is cheap as it gets
very common socket

ed

[goldengraham]

Hey Ed,
I resocketted that socket with a new one, no change. I had a good look at the input chips. Any repair there is gonna be over my head.

I have a green board (my other post). I have booted it up with an ATX breakout, but it won't boot to the game (resets just before the first actual game screen) Could this be because the ATX doesn't have enough juice? Also, SW51 cannot get me to service menu)

Two junk boards, which should I attack?

GG

[ed12]

which version of golden tee of golden tee is the hard drive ? (lets start there)
and exactly what #'s are on top of u53 ?

ed

[goldengraham]

OK so...
I only have one hard drive...
The green boards U15 is v1.06
The red boards U15 is v2.04

Red board will boot to game with no inputs.
Green board gets right before the game then resets.

GG

[ed12]

u15 is the eprom
the least u should have is egale 2.09
u can move the u15 from the red board to the green board (just watch the notch)
what i was asking u is the # on u53
it is the game id i need

ed

[goldengraham]

Sorry I read at work...
Green board - G4C-CAN-U
Red board - G45-CAN-U

GG

[ed12]

ok 1 is a 04 the other a 05
which ever board the harddrive will work in but (no switchs)
swap u15 and u53 toghter
so as i understand it the redboard boots to game but no switchs
so that 3 pieces u will swap into the green board >u15/u53/harddrive< please make sure of the notchs (pin1) to pin1
co not reverse these chips
ie pin1 to pin 22
pin 1 to pin 20
or u will get the little grey smoke fery
and let me know how it works out

ed

[goldengraham]

OK putting the U15 and U53 and HD from the red board I get a hardware not compatible with software error.

The red board boots to game but has no button input (on board switches work)

The green board resets itself at initializing game screen but has button input but I can't get into service screen with the on board switch

GG

[ed12]

i was worried about that...that error is the build in u61
not adviceable for u to try to do yourself

lets do it this way
>>>>put u53 back in (proper) to its (proper board)<<<<<<
this will nock out that error.
and leave the u15 swap alone

now the harddrive for 04 will not work for 05 ^^^^ error
but all is not lost
u can find 05 s/w easy enough

now get a copy of chdman 1.46 >1.46< is best
and a copy of 05 s/w. i will not post the site but it is a very common d/l site
and load it to a blank 8meg or larger harddrive

follow the readme with 1.46
its easy as pie

i do however have a question for u
on your green board
the jamma powers it right ? to this i mean the power inputs come to the jamma input right ?
a yes or no tells me the trick
ed

[goldengraham]

Well the green board I have is being powered poorly by a hacked up ATX supply. I am feeding power through the Molex connectors. I will order a proper supply when I can confirm it will function.

When you say 04 do you mean GT fore 2004? Or are there different versions of 2005 software?

I attached an image of a list of software. Which one is appropriate. I will probably reuse the hard drive that I currently have just because I really don't have any small EIDE drives kicking around.

GG

[mclovin]

I just thought I would chime in here. Ed made a typo. The G4C-CAN-U is a Complete (GT Fore 2006 Complete) and the G45-CAN-U is a 2005 (GT Fore 2005).

 

[goldengraham]

I just thought I would chime in here. Ed made a typo. The G4C-CAN-U is a Complete (GT Fore 2006 Complete) and the G45-CAN-U is a 2005 (GT Fore 2005).

 

So I should be downloading the complete to work with the G4C chip?

GG

[ed12]

erps thks for chatching that

if the green board was a 04 then u d/l the 04 s/w
the hard drive >>must match u53 and u61<<
or it will give u errors
1=incompatiable s/w >u61<
2=wrong game secirty chip >u53<
the eeprom dump from the red board WILL NOT WORK in the green board and visa versa
in my thread in a few of the last pages is the 06 >green board< working dump
u would need to remove u61 and reflash it with the dump i uploaded
then u can use the gtcomplete harddrive and u53 in the green board
or u can just send them in for repair

ed

[goldengraham]

How do I tell what game the board is?. I've seen the red board boot with the hard drive to GT4  2005, but I have not seen the green board boot to a game as I only have a 2005 HD.

GG

[ed12]

also in my thread are pictures of "post-screen",this is the last screnn u will see before the game boots
it gives u the game # 04/05/complete/ game build id #u61/board rev/voltage level "hi/low/ok"
it will last for 2-3 seconds. as a normal rule of course UNLESS u have a problem

ed

[mclovin]

I just thought I would chime in here. Ed made a typo. The G4C-CAN-U is a Complete (GT Fore 2006 Complete) and the G45-CAN-U is a 2005 (GT Fore 2005).

 

So I should be downloading the complete to work with the G4C chip?

GG

Yes the G4C is a complete chip.

[goldengraham]

So I'm thinking this is my next step, tell me if I'm wrong. The red board will boot with the hard drive and the U53 for 2005. Unfortunately, no input.

The green board won't boot into the game for anything. I get the red unauthorized screen when I try various combinations of U53s and hard drives. The board came with a complete U53 chip.

My plan is to put Golden Tee 2006 Complete onto the hard drive and see if the green board will boot into the game.

Does that make sense? Is there anything I should do before that?

GG

[ed12]

the complete u53 chip came with the red board right ?
if so then sorry no.
u will need to remove u61 from the green board and load it with my last file i posted in the golden tee thread in misalounis fourms here
the last file is a (gtcomplete) build for u61 and works perfect >green board< only
just copy the file u see posted and save it in notepad as a .txt
then rename the .txt to a .bin file
then any loader/reader/writer that supports 93lc46 chip can write it to the chip
place the chip back in and u are good to go using u53 g4-can-u and the complete harddrive u have
DO NOT CHANGE THE SIZE OF YOUR HARD DRIVE without up-grading the egale rom to 2.09

ed

[goldengraham]

Ed.
The complete came with the green board.

[ed12]

incompatiable s/w is a u61 issuie
the red board eeprom i have not nor will i post it
90% of golden tees are green board
i have a few 4 red boards that were golden tees
there is a hudge difference in the u61 because of the board rev
right beside or below your serial # is a print on the board and tells u the board rev
the u53 g4-can-u should work in either board (u stands for unverisal)
your hard drive will how ever have to locked to the id in the u61 chip
if u61 was 2005 (build) then u are stuck using 2005 firmware (u53) and 2005 s/w for the harddrive
it is that simple
this is why i suggested sending it in for repair or just swap out boards for a running game

ed

[goldengraham]

Will IT repair the board?