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Model 2 Emulator just shows black screen
« on: March 03, 2016, 03:06:09 pm »
I didn't find any other threads with this problem. The roms load fine but then I just get a black screen with the occasional static flicker. This happens on all games I've tried. If it's a light gun game, the crosshair will be on the screen and follow my mouse but that's it.

I'm running Windows 7 64bit. Here's my emulator.ini file:

;Configuration file for the SEGA Model 2 emulator
;All text to the right of ; is ignored (use as comments)


C:\GAMES\model2\roms;Add your rom directories here (max 10)
;ROMS subdirectory in the same folder than the exe is always scanned when searching for roms
;(remove the ; form Dir1)
[RomDirs]
;Dir1=c:\Model2\roms


[Renderer]
SoftwareVertexProcessing=0   

Wireframe=0         ;Disables polygon filling (for debug purposes, don't change)
FakeGouraud=0         ;Tries to guess Per-vertex colour (gouraud) from the Model2 per-poly information (flat)
Bilinear=1         ;Enables bilinear filtering of textures
Trilinear=0         ;Enables mipmap usage and trilinear filtering (doesn't work with some games, DoA for example)
FilterTilemaps=1      ;Enables bilinear filtering on tilemaps (looks good, but can cause some stretch artifacts)
ForceManaged=1         ;Forces the DX driver to use Managed textures instead of Dynamic. Use it if the emulator
            ;crashes after loading or doesn't show anything
ForceSync=0
FullScreenWidth=640
FullScreenHeight=480

AutoMip=0         ;Enables Direct3D Automipmap generation
MeshTransparency=0      ;Enabled meshed polygons for translucency. Requires PS3.0
DrawCross=1         ;Show Crosshair in gun games
GammaR=1.0         ;Per Component Gamma correction (1.0 = no correction). Red
GammaG=1.0         ;Green
GammaB=1.0         ;Blue

WideScreenWindow=0      ;Set widescreen in windows mode: 0 - 4:3, 1 - 16:9, 2 - 16:10
FSAA=0            ;Enable full screen antialiasing in Direct3D



;These options are configured from menus so don't touch
FullMode=0   
Sound=1
Frameskip=-1
AutoFull=1
Filter=46989312



[Input]
XInput=0         ;Enable support for Xbox360 compatible devices
EnableFF=0         ;Enable Force Feedback Effects
HoldGears=0         ;Set to 1 to return to Neutral in driving games when the gear shift key is released
UseRawInput=0         ;Read mouse through Rawinput, allowing 2 mice
RawDevP1=0         ;Assign specific RawInput devices to players. If you have more than 2 mice
RawDevP2=1         ;set which one is assigned to each player (0-based)

;FORCE EFFECTS PARAMETERS
;FE_CENTERING Effect (Spring centering effect)
FE_CENTERING_Gain=0.5      ;Global gain
FE_CENTERING_Coefficient=10000   ;0-10000
FE_CENTERING_Saturation=10000   ;0-10000
FE_CENTERING_Deadband=1000   ;10%

;FE_CLUTCH Effect (Friction, wheel turn hardness)
FE_CLUTCH_Gain=1.0      ;Global gain
FE_CLUTCH_Coefficient=10000   ;0-10000

;FE_LEFT,FE_RIGHT (Constant force in a direction)
FE_LEFT_Gain=1.0      ;Global gain
FE_LEFT_Magnitude=10000      ;0-10000
FE_RIGHT_Gain=1.0      ;Global gain
FE_RIGHT_Magnitude=10000   ;0-10000


;FE_UNCENTERING (Sine force, wave the wheel, rumble)
FE_UNCENTERING_Gain=1.0      ;Global gain
FE_UNCENTERING_Magnitude=10000   ;0-10000
FE_UNCENTERING_Offset=-200
FE_UNCENTERING_Phase=0
FE_UNCENTERING_Period=56000

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Re: Model 2 Emulator just shows black screen
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2016, 03:19:14 pm »
Try installing the runtimes linked to in this thread: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,131527.0.html
A lot of emulators rely on those. 
Newer versions of DirectX don't include the runtimes from before 10, even if they say they are up to date.

If that doesn't work, what type of video card do you have?

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Re: Model 2 Emulator just shows black screen
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2016, 03:28:38 pm »
Thanks for the reply, I installed those and got the same thing. Games either crash or just give me a black screen. I have a GeForce GTX 750 ti video card.

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Re: Model 2 Emulator just shows black screen
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2016, 11:12:01 pm »
Try installing the runtimes linked to in this thread: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,131527.0.html
A lot of emulators rely on those. 
Newer versions of DirectX don't include the runtimes from before 10, even if they say they are up to date.

If that doesn't work, what type of video card do you have?

Any other ideas I could try? The emulator just has so few options to tweak.

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Re: Model 2 Emulator just shows black screen
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2016, 12:20:27 am »
Are you running this on a computer with the desktop across 2 monitors (extended display?) I just tried it on my main computer (which is set up like this) and got a black screen. No crosshairs in the shooting games, nor crashes, even using your .ini file. Maybe try just a single screen, if that is the case.

Pressing ESC put the game in a window, running happily. Is that the case for you? Are you running TroubleShooter 2, Quitter.exe, or any other programs made to modify how Model 2 emulator works? I'm using a "clean" copy of Model 2 1.1a.

Also, there is an error in your .ini file, where your rom files are located. Based on the settings, I'm guessing you have the rom files in the ROM folder where the Model 2 emulator executable is?

You have:
C:\GAMES\model2\roms;Add your rom directories here (max 10)
;ROMS subdirectory in the same folder than the exe is always scanned when searching for roms
;(remove the ; form Dir1)
[RomDirs]
;Dir1=c:\Model2\roms

You should remove C:\GAMES\model2\roms from the first line. If you define a directory, it needs to go below [RomDirs]. If your roms are in the roms folder where Model 2 is, you don't need to put any path.

;Add your rom directories here (max 10)
;ROMS subdirectory in the same folder than the exe is always scanned when searching for roms
;(remove the ; form Dir1)
[RomDirs]
;Dir1=c:\Model2\roms

If the model 2 emulator executable is NOT in C:\games\model2\....

;Add your rom directories here (max 10)
;ROMS subdirectory in the same folder than the exe is always scanned when searching for roms
;(remove the ; form Dir1)
[RomDirs]
Dir1=C:\GAMES\model2\roms

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Re: Model 2 Emulator just shows black screen
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2016, 10:28:28 am »
Are you running this on a computer with the desktop across 2 monitors (extended display?) I just tried it on my main computer (which is set up like this) and got a black screen. No crosshairs in the shooting games, nor crashes, even using your .ini file. Maybe try just a single screen, if that is the case.

Pressing ESC put the game in a window, running happily. Is that the case for you? Are you running TroubleShooter 2, Quitter.exe, or any other programs made to modify how Model 2 emulator works? I'm using a "clean" copy of Model 2 1.1a.

Also, there is an error in your .ini file, where your rom files are located. Based on the settings, I'm guessing you have the rom files in the ROM folder where the Model 2 emulator executable is?

You have:
C:\GAMES\model2\roms;Add your rom directories here (max 10)
;ROMS subdirectory in the same folder than the exe is always scanned when searching for roms
;(remove the ; form Dir1)
[RomDirs]
;Dir1=c:\Model2\roms

You should remove C:\GAMES\model2\roms from the first line. If you define a directory, it needs to go below [RomDirs]. If your roms are in the roms folder where Model 2 is, you don't need to put any path.

;Add your rom directories here (max 10)
;ROMS subdirectory in the same folder than the exe is always scanned when searching for roms
;(remove the ; form Dir1)
[RomDirs]
;Dir1=c:\Model2\roms

If the model 2 emulator executable is NOT in C:\games\model2\....

;Add your rom directories here (max 10)
;ROMS subdirectory in the same folder than the exe is always scanned when searching for roms
;(remove the ; form Dir1)
[RomDirs]
Dir1=C:\GAMES\model2\roms

Thanks for the reply! I am only using one display. I get the same results in windowed or fullscreen. Not running any programs that would interfere. I'm guessing it's something with my video card at this point? I'll fix that directory though, thanks, and if that doesn't work I'll try a clean install and see if maybe I messed something up along the way.

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Re: Model 2 Emulator just shows black screen
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2016, 03:48:40 pm »
UPDATE: Got a fresh install (used 1.0 this time because I hear that works with Troubleshooter 2) and it works fine. I don't know how I screwed up the first one. Thanks for the help guys.

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Re: Model 2 Emulator just shows black screen
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2016, 05:09:08 pm »
New problem... Everything works fine outside of Maximus Arcade but certain games (House of the Dead, Virtua Cop) go to a black screen when the mouse button is pressed for the first time when run in MA. If I enable RawInput in emulator.ini, it doesn't crash but I have no crosshair and it seems to be shooting off screen or something. Any ideas??

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Re: Model 2 Emulator just shows black screen
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2016, 11:57:57 pm »
Sounds like Maximus Arcade gets focus back on it when the mouse is pressed.
You mentioned about using TroubleShooter 2. Did you already get that part set up? That's really going to change how the mouse interacts with Model 2, and could possibly fix the problem.

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Re: Model 2 Emulator just shows black screen
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2016, 12:03:21 am »
Sounds like Maximus Arcade gets focus back on it when the mouse is pressed.
You mentioned about using TroubleShooter 2. Did you already get that part set up? That's really going to change how the mouse interacts with Model 2, and could possibly fix the problem.

Gotcha, good point, I have not tried that yet because I have to wait for my next paycheck to get my guns  :P maybe I'll just hold off on this for now. I'm having enough trouble getting Demul working in Maximus Arcade. Can't figure out how to launch it seamlessly in the front-end. Thanks for your help romshark! If you have any ideas on launching Demul I'd be very appreciative.