Windows 10

[DaOld Man]

Anyone have any experience with Microsofts latest?
I would like to read personal thoughts on it before I upgrade to it on my desktop PC.

[Phreakwars]

I've had the technical preview installed on a couple of machines here at the house... for the most part, I really like Windows 10. Microsoft got alot of things right this time that they royally screwed up in Windows 8.. specifically, that stupid Metro interface is now gone. They brought back the task bar and put all that Metro junk there instead. My only real beef with it, is they no longer have Windows Media Center available for it. While many people don't use it, and think it sucks.. It does serve one useful purpose, and it's what I use it for... HTPC's. If your thinking of building an HTPC, then think twice about Windows 10. I use Windows Media Center's TV tuner for my HD Homerun Prime CableCard. It's an easy way to get all the premium and HD channels from the cable company without having to pay cable box fees. Windows Media Center handles the tuner beautifully. On my HTPC, I use a wireless keyboard/touchpad, and have an WMC remote control. All the other Windows 7 computers in the house are also able to tune channels from the card. There is other software out there that will work on a CableCard network tuner, but not quite as well as WMC. If it wasn't for that, all the computers in the house would get the Windows 10 upgrade.

So yeah... I say if your not using WMC like I do, then absolutely upgrade to Windows 10... especially if your now using that crap OS Windows 8.

[Howard_Casto]

Have they sent you an upgrade notification yet?  I'm still waiting, which is odd because I reserved my copies and I have multiple machines with multiple specs waiting. 

[DaOld Man]

Have they sent you an upgrade notification yet?  I'm still waiting, which is odd because I reserved my copies and I have multiple machines with multiple specs waiting.

I just reserved mine last night. Havent got a notification yet.

[yotsuya]

You can download the ISO directly from Microsoft if you don't want to wait. That's what I did. Burning it to disc now, will upgrade in the next hour or so.

Link:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

[Howard_Casto]

Eh knowing my luck there would be a fatal glitch that only affected my hardware and brick my machines until they came out with a fix. 

I'm not in any particular hurry.  I've just got some rather old apps and dev tools that I want to make sure still work in 10.  I see no reason why they wouldn't, but you never know. 

I wonder if there is a way to get it for free on crappy old xp machines.  I've got a netbook that isn't really good for anything and from what I've been reading it surprisingly runs on rather low end hardware.  I won't want to put 119 bucks into a netbook that is essentially worth 30 dollars though. 

[yotsuya]

I'm installing from the disc. So far so good. The only thing I've seen that is kind of different is that it warned me that Windows Media Center would be uninstalled. I don't use it so it doesn't matter to me, but I'm curious why it's not included.

[Howard_Casto]

The rumor is that M$ is going to come out with something new.  Unlike previous iterations of windows "other" os variants, 10 pi, 10 mobile, and regular old 10 all communicate with each other beautifully along with the xbox one os.  So for one they might be pushing the xbox solution as a set-top-box.  Also with 10 mobile your tables and phones will soon be able to run 10 and the one drive seems to be built into all new oses by default.  So streaming stuff from your pc to a mobile device hooked up to your tv might be another solution.  M$ might have a media stick in the works as well you know their fondness for getting into a battle that's already won years too late (zune, windows live, ect)

[DaOld Man]

Still haven't gotten my notification yet, how about you Howard?
I was half way listening to a computer themed talk show on the radio in the truck yesterday, and if I heard correctly, they said that you get Win10 free for a year, then you decide whether or not to buy it. 100 bucks was mentioned but it might have been speculation. Wished I had been listening closer. Have any of you guys heard anything like this?

[yotsuya]

No, no not true.

From MS faq:

Is the upgrade really free?


Yes, it’s free. This is a full version of Windows, not a trial or introductory version. It is available for a limited time: you have until July 29, 2016 to take advantage of this offer. Once you upgrade, you’ll have Windows 10 for free on that device.

[yotsuya]

Oh, and again, just download it. I have had it running for 2 days now.

[Slippyblade]

If you have a real copy of 7 or 8, then the upgrade to 10 is free.  If you do NOT qualify for the upgrade, then it's $110.

[pbj]

How does it do with unsigned drivers?  Getting the EMS Top Guns to work in win8 was a nightmare.

[Howard_Casto]

Still haven't gotten any notification, no. 

The people on the radio show are probably confused.  Microsoft is offering to update vista and above for free for the next year.  If you don't reserve your copy within the next year you'll have to pay for the upgrade.  So long as you upgrade within the year it's free from now on. 

That being said, M$ is saying that 10 is the "last windows" and that it'll be continually upgraded from now on similar to how they do the dashboard on the Xboxes.  We'll see how long that lasts. 

[Yenome]

I been using it on my main system since july 29th no issues so far. even my DS4 controller connects and stays connected over bluetooth. so now i have the ultimate machine all i need is KI to be released for windows 10 and ill be a happy camper.

[yotsuya]

I ***did*** have an issue with some fonts on web pages, but that was fixed by downloading a set of Windows 8 fonts and reinstalling them. Mine was a rollup from 7, so I didn't have the Metro fonts.

[DaOld Man]

Thanks guys, Im probably the one who is confused, I was driving and not really listening to the talk, just happened to catch that about having a year.
They were probably saying the same thing about it being free for a year then costing 100 bucks. Now where did I put my bottle of meds? LOL

[BadMouth]

Microsoft is offering to update vista and above for free for the next year.  If you don't reserve your copy within the next year you'll have to pay for the upgrade.  So long as you upgrade within the year it's free from now on. 

Whoa, I get to update my cab from Vista?! 

I remember getting some vibe that there would in fact be a price to pay for the free version, in the form of more user data being shared with microsoft.
Anything to that?

[Fursphere]

To all those waiting in the 'queue'

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Download the appropriate version (32 or 64 bit), and instead of downloading the offline installer, just 'upgrade now' - effectively skipping the queue.   I did three machines this way.  (I reserved months ago as well)

My Core i5 machine took about 40 minutes start to finish (8.1 -> 10).  Core2Duo took about 70 minutes. (7 -> 10).   My crappy old laptop took hours - I let it go overnight, so I really have no idea how long it took.  (7 ->10)

I ran into sound driver issues on my laptop (expected) but otherwise everything has been fine on my other two machines.  My arcade cabinet PC seems to be rocking along just fine.

[yotsuya]

To all those waiting in the 'queue'

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Download the appropriate version (32 or 64 bit), and instead of downloading the offline installer, just 'upgrade now' - effectively skipping the queue.   I did three machines this way.  (I reserved months ago as well)

My Core i5 machine took about 40 minutes start to finish (8.1 -> 10).  Core2Duo took about 70 minutes. (7 -> 10).   My crappy old laptop took hours - I let it go overnight, so I really have no idea how long it took.  (7 ->10)

I ran into sound driver issues on my laptop (expected) but otherwise everything has been fine on my other two machines.  My arcade cabinet PC seems to be rocking along just fine.

Ahem...

You can download the ISO directly from Microsoft if you don't want to wait. That's what I did. Burning it to disc now, will upgrade in the next hour or so.

Link:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Seems no one listens

[DaOld Man]

Im listening. If I don't get the confirmation by this weekend, when Im off work, I will try your suggestions.

[DGP]

I just tried win10 yesterday on a multi-cade pc and had many issues coming from win7 (reverted back to win7), honestly I would wait on the emulation based pc's since they can take many hours to set-up and fine tune. As for the OS itself it seems excellent even though it shares much with win8. I think it's too early to go win10 for an arcade platform unless all you wish to run is mame.

[Ond]

Been upgrading all my Windows PCs to this OS,  really good so far.  My main design PC which is a grunty i7 runs great.  Better than 8.1 it's cleaner and what the MS OS should have been in the previous releases.  My kids laptops which are kept up to date with patches all got there offers in the last week or so.  The one thing that's a bit of a minus is the enforced updates, but meh so what.

[Howard_Casto]

I'm throwing it on my extra pc as we speak.  I can't seem to get any answers in regards to my more exotic software compatibility questions, so I'll just have to test myself.    I've also been told that graphics cards seem to like 10 better than 7 and 8, so I want to test that as well. 

[Howard_Casto]

Hmm.... after waiting a half hour for the thing to download and start the install I got the error "Windows 10 Setup could not continue, restart your computer then try again" 

So I restarted and now it's downloading win 10 again?

[yotsuya]

You download the .iso?

[Howard_Casto]

No.  I will eventually for backup purposes, but discs are so 2001.  It seems to be doing it's thing now.  40% complete with the install. 

[Howard_Casto]

Ok so far so good.  I upgraded a pc that basically didn't have much of anything on it.  My observations thus far:  (compared to win 7)

I'm not sure how long it took to install because I was busy and just let it run, but it's safe to say it took a while. 


After it actually installed, the install went smoothly.  I didn't have to re-install registered apps and what-not. 

Games DO seem to run a bit faster.  Don't get your hopes up, it's like 4 or 5 fps on my machine, but if the game is on the cusp of running...

.net apps are MUCH faster.  Ati guys, you know where opening the control center takes FOREVER?  Yeah it's instant now.  I don't know if .net is fully integrated or what but it's a big difference. 

Hard drive access is faster.  "Huh?"  You say?  I don't get it either, but on this machine you could load up MK: KE and the progress bar would stall and stutter as things were loaded off the HDD, but not anymore.  It's also noticeable in the file explorer, but not as much. 

The UI is cleaner and runs smoother.  Even if something is chugging along in the background, explorer and the desktop don't stall, which is a first on windows if you ask me. 

The new "edge" internet browser is crap.  Mind you it's really fast and runs well, but it doesn't support extensions and plugins yet, making it fairly worthless. 

Remote Xbox one mode is bad-ass.  It works flawlessly and even lets me use my old 360 gamepad.  It should prove useful for running those arcade games that don't get ported to the pc on a cab... assuming you use 360 gamepads for your controls of course.  I've got a hard line to the xbox, you might get different results via a wireless connection, but for me at least you couldn't tell it was streaming, and there weren't any visual artifacts or lag or anything. 

Window's default viewers still suck.  I tried to play a video on my hdd... sound only..... codecs weren't working.  I tried again on mpc and it played fine.  This wasn't some exotic codec either, but rather the default youtube format. 

My busted old vs6-created apps still work great, including Outrun FXT and the weird-assed hack I used to add overlays to the game, which was surprising.  I want to test my busted old development tools as well.  Mamehooker needs to be thoroughly tested, because, well, it does a lot of weird stuff.   

Some basic tasks seem to be quicker... for example when I plugged in my 360 gamepad it didn't have to think for a while... it just installed the driver and worked almost immediately.

If somebody wants me to test something let me know. 

[ratsflif]

I have been using it on a few computers and it has been great so far.

The Xbox one streaming is really awesome and since it supports xbox 360 controllers I can now use my really nice custom fightstick on KI instead of having to buy the $200+ xbox one fight stick.

[DaOld Man]

Here is some info we all might find very interesting about Win 10:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/05/windows-10-charging/

[DaOld Man]

Main thing I don't like is that if your hard drive crashes and you have to do a new install, windows 10 will cost you 110 shucks.
(Its only free if upgrading from 7 or 8, and a new hard drive would not be considered upgrade.)
However, 110 is cheaper than win 7 was, I don't know what win 8 new install cost.

[Howard_Casto]

That is a bit of mis-information.  Your upgrade is tied to your current license key.  Right now win 7 or 8 must be installed to upgrade, but that is most likely to prevent piracy and will eventually be changed.  Even if it isn't, once you upgrade your license is upgraded to a win 10 license.   So you may have to install win 7/8 first, which is rather convoluted, but you can still get to 10 for free. 

Long story short install win 10 within the one year window.  So long as you do that you are ok. 

There were similar fears when vista came out in regards to only being able to change your hardware configuration X amount of times and ect. and they are largely unfounded.   

[DaOld Man]

Still no notification, however there is a folder on my hard drive C:/$Windows.~BT, Im thinking it is downloading to that folder, judging from the folders contents.
Right now the folder is 5.87 gigs, I plan to check it in the morning to see if it has grown, which would mean there is downloading going on behind the scenes.

[JDFan]

Main thing I don't like is that if your hard drive crashes and you have to do a new install, windows 10 will cost you 110 shucks.
(Its only free if upgrading from 7 or 8, and a new hard drive would not be considered upgrade.)
However, 110 is cheaper than win 7 was, I don't know what win 8 new install cost.

Actually it is still free if you have to reinstall to a new HDD on the same system - when you first upgrade using your win7 win8 install and activate it will record the new upgraded key onto the activation server (not sure what it records) and then you can do a clean install and it will not ask for any key and will just activate it for you - you just can not go straight to a clean install without first upgrading and activating but once you have done that reinstall at a later time will activate fine on that system. ( I believe they still use the same MOBO requirement for it to be considered the same system)

[Howard_Casto]

Yeah that's how it's usually done.  And your MB can actually be swapped out a limited number of times as well and even after that, you can call to tie the license to another machine. 

[Wired203]

for those who don't want to wait.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

That is the tool to download your copy and install now.  You can make a bootable usb drive but don't have it ntfs formatted or it won't recognize it.  You can install to the PC your on,  or just download the ISO and burn a dvd to install your PC's on. 

[ark_ader]

for those who don't want to wait.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

That is the tool to download your copy and install now.  You can make a bootable usb drive but don't have it ntfs formatted or it won't recognize it.  You can install to the PC your on,  or just download the ISO and burn a dvd to install your PC's on.

 

[DaOld Man]

Ok, Checked the folder and it is still 5.87 GB.
It has a setup exe file, should I try it?
Or should I wait for the notification?

[Howard_Casto]

It's only been a week since they released it.  Win 10 will be installed automatically in the upcoming weeks/months.  It won't hurt though, you can always uninstall.  I kind of had to because of all the weird projects I work on and even I haven't upgraded my main machine yet.

[Howard_Casto]

An update for anyone this concerns (probably only me at this point).  Visual Studio 6 and it's tools DO work on 10.  The installer unfortunately does not due to some ridiculous decision by Microsoft to remove the stand alone java dll needed for the installer program.  There is a visual studio installer for win 10 though and if you use it things install fine.

I guess that means I can update pretty soon. 

[SavannahLion]

An update for anyone this concerns (probably only me at this point).  Visual Studio 6 and it's tools DO work on 10.  The installer unfortunately does not due to some ridiculous decision by Microsoft to remove the stand alone java dll needed for the installer program.  There is a visual studio installer for win 10 though and if you use it things install fine.

I guess that means I can update pretty soon.

That's good to know. I have Studio 2013 I'm doing some ports with.

I've heard rumors about forced advertisement such as from here: http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why-windows-10-sucks.html

Anyone have experience with that?

The Windows 8 advertisements suck ass and they're annoying as ---fudgesicle---. But at least you can get rid of or hide them more or less. That's going to suck if I keep getting "suggestions" in Windows 10. It's one of the biggest things that pisses me off about the stupid Xbox dashboard. It's on every damn page and my kids keep pestering me to get game X or Y that's being advertised. Annoying as hell that they're penetrating where they have no business going.

[Slippyblade]

It's not made up.  Win10 is an advertising/adware platform for Microsoft.  I didn't see most of it during the pre-release, but the actual release version is damn near spyware.  It harvests more data about you than you'd believe and some of it cannot be shut off.  Some of it can be shutoff, but will turn itself back on after an undetermined time.

[Haze]

It's not made up.  Win10 is an advertising/adware platform for Microsoft.  I didn't see most of it during the pre-release, but the actual release version is damn near spyware.  It harvests more data about you than you'd believe and some of it cannot be shut off.  Some of it can be shutoff, but will turn itself back on after an undetermined time.

Yeah, I put it on my spare box as a Win 7 upgrade.

It might have a 'Start Menu' but the OS is as schizophrenic as Windows 8 was, there's new interface stuff plastered everywhere offering more limited versions of the functionality the old dialogs offered, leaving you to have to dig down (Sometimes 2 layers of restricted ways of doing things) before you get to the dialogs that actually work, which are in most cases the same as the ones in 7.

Also if you're unfortunate enough to still have the 'Get Windows 10' application installed on Windows 7 it's turned into something that acts more like a ad-ware virus since the launch, bombarding you with big 'RESERVE YOUR WINDOWS 10' popups at every opportunity rather than small bubble notifications, hardly instils confidence.

People have said it's fast and more responsive, but as an upgrade on an old install it's still just as sluggish as that old install ever was, and frankly the argument that it's fast and snappier based on a fresh install is invalid, because every Windows OS is fast and snappy on a fresh install, I'd consider the state of it on an 'upgrade install' to be a more accurate reflection of where it will be in a few months, just like every other version.  People said the same about Windows 8, most people I know with Windows 8 are now cursing it because it runs like a 3 legged dog after a year of use.

I guess it will be popular, people have been sucked into the hype train (and it does appear to give people who pirated Win7 an opportunity to get a proper licensed version - despite what is claimed it apparently updates and activates just fine from quite a lot of non-legit copies) but it's really not an improvement over Windows 8, and the few improvements Windows 8 had over 7 (nicer file copy dialogs with pause is one I do actually really like) are outweighed by the tragedy that is the waste of space UI changes that have been plastered haphazardly on top of the bits you actually want to get to.

The forced Windows updates are also likely to be annoying.

Glad I tried it on my spare machine, I'll probably leave it on that one because it's a junk machine anyway, but I'm struggling to justify converting my main machine over even with the price of 'free'

[Howard_Casto]

What ads are you referring to?  I've been running it for a couple of days and I haven't really noticed any.  I don't use hardly any of the metro apps though... if you upgrade from win 7 all the old apps are still there, so I'm using live mail, ect...

I have noticed some oddities with upgrading though....  For instance, Cortana doesn't seem to function properly on this machine.  She works just fine, but when you ask her to set a reminder, ect she never gets around to actually reminding me.  Ironically she works perfect on the laptop, but that's worthless because I'm not talking to my computer in public.  Also a few things seem to be missing or buried really deep... I tried to pin a folder to the frequent use section of explorer and it wouldn't let me... right clicking on an app in the taskbar doesn't allow me to open another instance of the app, ect. 

I'm sticking with it for now though because it seems to manage system resources much better. 

I mentioned this a LOOOONG time ago though... windows 10 purpose is to get the Microsoft store on everyone's desktop and that's why it's free.  They tried to do it once with windows live and again with win 8 and now they are so desperate they are giving the OS away for free.  The xbox 360 and Xbox one have the same store, as does window phones.  Microsoft's current business strategy is to become a marketplace like iTunes or steam and make money that way. 

Most of the data mining is for Cortana btw.... I did a bit of hacking/investigation and her brain's are mostly server-side.  She gets more accurate by remembering phrases you use a lot and guessing at your question based on what you'd usually ask.  What that does is take a kind of crappy voice recognition program and make it better.  I'm sure a lot of people won't be comfortable with all the mining once it gets out, but I sort of understand why they did it. 

[yotsuya]

Hey, does anybody know a way I can install this faster without having to wait?

FFS.

I don't notice any extra spyware, targeted advertising, or anything like that with Windows 10. I don't feel like Big Brother is watching me or anything like that. It works just fine. If you're one of those people that spells Windows with a dollar sign, keep Raging Against the Machine.

[Slippyblade]

Yots, you won't notice the extra spyware.  It's because Windows is background harvesting nearly EVERYTHING and then uploading it.  Like Howard said, it is used with Cortana a lot, but I guarantee you that Microsoft will be selling data bundles as well.  Not to mention that Windows now uses a background torrent client to stream updates out to other users thus eating your bandwidth...  I thought that was rather genius, and dubious as hell.

[yotsuya]

Yots, you won't notice the extra spyware.  It's because Windows is background harvesting nearly EVERYTHING and then uploading it.  Like Howard said, it is used with Cortana a lot, but I guarantee you that Microsoft will be selling data bundles as well.  Not to mention that Windows now uses a background torrent client to stream updates out to other users thus eating your bandwidth...  I thought that was rather genius, and dubious as hell.

I turned the automatic background torrent client off. One click.

I don't use Cortana.

If they're harvesting info on me, someone at M$ is going to sift through a pile of arcade stuff and chunky chick pr0n. :

But my computer works just fine.

[Howard_Casto]

Yeah I hate to tell people this, but the days of privacy are gone, for better or for worse.  google, yahoo and all the major search engines (so not bing... heh, sorry I had to) spy on us server-side.  The amount of data Microsoft gets isn't even close to what they've stolen.  The only difference is google has a really good public image, so people don't seem to care. 

The os just seems to run better though, and that's the important thing.  A lot of window's functions are tied to the web browser and now that all apps use edge things are snappier.  Don't get me wrong, I don't think edge cuts it as a browser, but it is fast and a lot more secure and compliant than IE, so if nothing else that is reason to upgrade. 

[Fursphere]

Not to mention that Windows now uses a background torrent client to stream updates out to other users thus eating your bandwidth...  I thought that was rather genius, and dubious as hell.

This is enterprise level technology making its way to the personal desktop land.  Its called BranchCache, its a feature in SCCM 2012.

 

[Yenome]

Ive had windows 10 on my main rig since release. not a single issue has made it self known. I play archeage which believe it or not taxes the computer. mame has been running fine with 162, As for upgradeing other systems i upgraded my arcade machine and someones laptop all with the download exe i got for my main system. your copy of windows 7/8 must be active in order to run it but it upgraded just fine past the july 29th deadline that M$ said. Now we need to wait and see how well DX12 will hold up to the hype.

[Howard_Casto]

I've ran into a few, but they seem to be linked to the fact that I upgraded my existing setup instead of doing a clean install.  Like right-clicking on taskbar stuff didn't work and I couldn't pin stuff to the file explorer.  Turns out they didn't work because my user profile from win 7 was partially corrupted.  Deleting a few temp files fixed that.  Right now I'm trying to figure out why things I pin to the start menu aren't showing up.  I bet it's a similar issue.  Also for whatever reason "hey Cortana" doesn't work on this machine.  It might be the cheap mic I'm using. 

But it's faster and things work better.... in general at least.  The metro apps are mostly garbage and they try to push them on you hard, but if you upgrade like I did all your old apps (email client, media player, ect) are still in tact so you can just remove them from the start menu and use your favorite programs instead. 

[Spanjed]

Took the step to update all my 3 machines:

2x Windows 7 -> 10
1x Windows 8 -> 10

For me it was a blast to see the systems perform better now (games, etc...)

On 1 system I didn't get a notification but after checking for updates (windows update) there it was....

Not to worried about data collecting by Microsoft

[Howard_Casto]

Something I noticed the other day.... the "X" button on xbox controllers is no longer worthless!  Pressing the guide button brings up the "xbox" menu, allowing you to record game footage, take snapshots, ect....  It's a little bare bones, but still pretty nifty and considering the whole xbox streaming thing was a last minute addition, they might add more features in the future.

[jacklance]

Had a issue like this with my 7990 and eyefinity. Enabling cursor trail fixed it for me.

[Howard_Casto]

So more windows 10 oddities and features.  Apparently my xbox one and pc are now linked.  When I get achievements they are listed in the windows 10 message cache and I can read about them there.  Kind of neat... or annoying depending upon who uses your computer. 

Users of Logitech wheels..... the old profiler no longer works in windows 10.  You need at least 1.5 installed.  if your device doesn't support 1.5 then it won't work.   

[Fursphere]

Users of Logitech wheels..... the old profiler no longer works in windows 10.  You need at least 1.5 installed.  if your device doesn't support 1.5 then it won't work.

Profiler version 5.10.127 came out 6/2010 ?   

version 1.5 is ancient... 

[Howard_Casto]

I must have been a bit lisdexic last night.  I mean 5.10

[headkaze]

Windows 10 won't run old games with dodgy copy protection

[DaOld Man]

Ok, I finally got my notification that the upgrade is ready.
Sorry I didn't try the download link, I just really haven't had time.
I'm going to take the plunge and go for it, hopefully I wont lose anything.
If I'm not around here for a few days you can probably guess what happened.

[JDFan]

Windows 10 won't run old games with dodgy copy protection

Funny how after all these years MS finally admits that those securom and safedisk DRM are viruses at heart and are now suggesting that people use the old cracks to circumvent them to be able to play the old games you paid for since the companies that included them can't be bothered to release patches since they already have your money and could care less if you can still play them.

[DaOld Man]

Yeah that does suck.

Well I'm back up and running with 10.
Trying to get the feel for it.
I started at 3:00 PM, had to mow the yard, got done at 5:00 PM, came back in and it was ready to set everything up, so the install process took less than 2 hours.

[TopJimmyCooks]

Yots, how do you turn off branchcache?

[yotsuya]

Yots, how do you turn off branchcache?

System->Update & Security->Windows Update->Advanced Options->Choose How Updates Are Delivered->Turn slider to OFF on Updates From More Than One Place.

[TopJimmyCooks]

Thanks.

[DaOld Man]

Ok, I just tried to post some pics in my RPi NES thread and the image icon is not posting, neither are any of the emoticons.
Is anyone else seeing this? Or is there a setting in Win 10 I need to adjust?

[Howard_Casto]

You are using Edge right?  Don't use Edge... it isn't finished yet.  That being said don't use IE either... it's painfully slow in windows 10.  Firefox to the rescue!

[DaOld Man]

You are using Edge right?  Don't use Edge... it isn't finished yet.  That being said don't use IE either... it's painfully slow in windows 10.  Firefox to the rescue!

Ok.
Yes I was using Edge, let me try Firefox.
BTW, If I posted the tags manually they work. (Have to type in the tag).

[DaOld Man]

Ok, testing now with Firefox:

 

And it works!
Thanks Howard.

[Osirus23]

3 systems here, all perfect. Loving Windows 10.

[Howard_Casto]

I'm loving the interconnectivity.  Having both the cloud and your Microsoft account universal across all PCs solves a lot of issues.  Now no matter which computer I'm using my files are all there, I can log into my xbox from any machine, ect. 

[pbj]

Is there a way to download but not install it?  I'm not convinced I want to upgrade my Win 7 desktop but it keeps downloading and deleting it when I tell it I want to upgrade later.

[yotsuya]

Look for the link to the ISO that I provided like weeks ago.

[Slippyblade]

[yotsuya]

Is there a way to download but not install it?  I'm not convinced I want to upgrade my Win 7 desktop but it keeps downloading and deleting it when I tell it I want to upgrade later.

You can download the ISO directly from Microsoft if you don't want to wait. That's what I did. Burning it to disc now, will upgrade in the next hour or so.

Link:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

[pbj]

My concern is that if I tell Windows 7 that I don't want to upgrade, I'm somehow going to lose my ability to do it for free down the road. 

The damn thing is prompting me to update every time I turn on the machine now. 

I suppose I'll guinea pig the Windows 8 laptop and see if I can live with it.

[yotsuya]

My concern is that if I tell Windows 7 that I don't want to upgrade, I'm somehow going to lose my ability to do it for free down the road. 

The damn thing is prompting me to update every time I turn on the machine now. 

I suppose I'll guinea pig the Windows 8 laptop and see if I can live with it.

I assume if you signed up for it,  you should be good to go as long as you do it sometime before the free period runs out.

[DudeRegular]

You dont need the invite or signup thing to update to 10. You can go directly to the link and download the installer.

[Ken Layton]

I've been having troubles with my backup (guinea pig) laptop after upgrading to Windows 10. I only did my emergency spare laptop in case of problems and I'm glad I only "upgraded" one machine. What happened was several months ago this particular 2007 Compaq Presario C502 laptop had the hard drive crash. It was running Vista Home Premium. So I bought a replacement hard drive on ebay and a legitimate Windows 7 disc & license. Upgraded this machine to 7 with no problems as a clean install. It performed perfectly fine and I was very happy. This qualified me for the free update to Windows 10. So then I upgraded to 10 and the first thing was I lost all sound. Then it started to do random crashes/lockups. Also notice excessive battery consumption.

After some help from Microsoft, I found out Windows 10 was installing the wrong (old outdated) audio driver for my laptop. He told me to use the Windows 10 built in Microsoft audio driver not the original Conexant Audio driver. That Microsoft driver did the trick and all my sound is back again. A couple of the Windows updates fixed the crashes and battery problems. My lockup problems, which at first I thought were caused by Firefox, were actually being caused by Avast Anti-Virus. I had read about other people having trouble lately with Avast and ended up removing Avast. Most people switched to Avira free anti-virus and the lockups were cured. Well that's what I did too. Dumped Avast and switched to Avira instead. Computer is running fine now.

One of my biggest thing I don't like about 10 is that everything has been moved and/or had the names of things changed. Can't find things anymore. I'm going to install Classic Shell and make this computer look like an XP machine. Another thing was the removal of DVD playing functionality. I ended up installing the free "VLC Media Player" program and can once again watch DVD movies on this laptop.

All in all, I would give Windows 10 a rating of "so-so". I still think Windows 7 was much better and should have left this laptop on 7.

[Howard_Casto]

Don't take this the wrong way, but you installed a new OS on really old hardware.  The issues you had are to be expected.  Also avast is crap, you should probably switch to AVG which is what you should have been using all along. 

The issues I mentioned in previous posts?  All gone....  I just logged in one day and they were fixed.  I think I rather like this continual updates thing as opposed to the old "once a month, if you are lucky". 

I'm not defending the OS though, merely clarifying.  It still has it's quirks.  I'm just saying that it's barely a month old and we should give it some time.  The one thing I'll agree completely with you on is the fact that with old hardware at least, it has some driver issues.  I think every single solitary windows ever has had this problem initially though, so hopefully it will get sorted out. 

[Ken Layton]

Howard: I understand about the old hardware and I used the Windows 10 upgrade advisor to check the computer out before hand. My Windows 10 machine is running fine now. I will keep it on 10, but in general, I'm not exactly thrilled with 10.

Heck, my main laptop is running Vista Home Premium and I've had virtually no problems with it. This computer is in use at least 12 hours a day, every day.

My backup laptop is the one which started it's life on Vista, but after the hard drive crashed got upgraded to Windows 7 then to 10. That computer gets used once a week for about 6 hours just to keep the battery charged.

My third laptop still runs Windows 98SE and I no longer connect it to the internet. I use that one once a week to scan manuals and doctor the scans up with a digital "cleanup" of the scans. This one has Paperport 5.0 software to operate the scanner.