Advice on Romsets to settle on

[aldub516]

Hey all. So forever ago I aquired a nice clean full .149 romset and all the additional files to go with it, so i always liked it. Anyways, now that im getting more into building machines, I was considering upgrading my rom set and mame version. Ive been reading about the new mame/mess merger and that it could potentially add a lot of problems to people already having smooth systems running. My friend had recently asked about golden tee fore and such, so i figured id look into it. I currently run Gameex but considering hyperspin on my next build. Being on .149 now, what, if any version do you suggest i upgrade to? Ive had little success with clrmamepro so I know updating my sets is going to suck. I dont know much technical stuff behind mame releases.. so, advice on what i should do as far as future mame version and rom set to use?

[abispac]

Im on the same boat, i really would like to update my hyperspin setup, but to afraid to startt all the work again, like renaming all the artwork and videos...that would suck. Hope someone here can post a nice solution for this mater 

[Slippyblade]

If you are gonna upgrade, just jump in and go with the latest set.  I'm happy with 149 myself though.

[pbj]

mame 36

[vwalbridge]

Yikes...I never done this before so I can't offer any advice. However, I just set up 2 Hyperspin cabs so I know exactly how scary this seems. I wont dare suggest anything. Fearing I'd make matters worse for you.

However, the best thing I have ever done (and this is probably obvious) is have one computer dedicated to messing with Hyperspin and all things related mame emulation, etc. I always like to have a sandbox to play in. I'm always playing with things and I sleep well at night knowing my real cab isn't jacked up.

[aldub516]

honestly man, ive built 3 cabinets, all with different systems.. im a smart guy in general. And now for YEARS, I CANNOT get hyperspin working. Its a bs setup and thats why i forever stuck with gameex. I dont get it. There are 9351374 tutorials for hyperspin from years ago up until today.. Every single tutorial seems to show a different folder structure, with different versions. They all reference hyperlaunch yet promote rocketlauncher as the new hyperlaunch? I came across the "ultimate" tutorial from earlier this year.. and yea ill be damned if it is impossible to set up. I just dont get it. Every tutorial says different things, referencing different programs, its an absolute headache and mess. I for the 100th time in years, am giving up on hyperspin.

[Slippyblade]

...like renaming all the artwork and videos...

I've fallen in love with Advance Renamer for this kind of stuff.  You can have it use regex or just simple patterns and rename entire blocks at a time.  Wonderful utility.

http://www.advancedrenamer.com/

[dmckean]

There's no reason to upgrade your entire romset just because one new game has been added to MAME. You can run multiple instances of MAME on one computer.

[aldub516]

Im just overall frustrated trying to update my whole front end and romset. I love the look of hyperspin but its really beyond me why there is no simple way to set it up. I really dont. Gameex is so damn powerful and versatile and possible to customize. Between the rocketlauncher and hyperlauncher terms, where tutorials tell you to use rocketlauncher, yet reference hyperlaunch and hyper hq.. As i said i consider myself a damn smart person when it come to stuff like this, hyperspin is probably the only thing ive never been able to figure out for the life of me.

[aldub516]

I wasnt really updating it for one single game. I was more just figuring if im going to spend tons of money and time on my hobby, matters well be up to date with software.

[abispac]

honestly man, ive built 3 cabinets, all with different systems.. im a smart guy in general. And now for YEARS, I CANNOT get hyperspin working. Its a bs setup and thats why i forever stuck with gameex. I dont get it. There are 9351374 tutorials for hyperspin from years ago up until today.. Every single tutorial seems to show a different folder structure, with different versions. They all reference hyperlaunch yet promote rocketlauncher as the new hyperlaunch? I came across the "ultimate" tutorial from earlier this year.. and yea ill be damned if it is impossible to set up. I just dont get it. Every tutorial says different things, referencing different programs, its an absolute headache and mess. I for the 100th time in years, am giving up on hyperspin.

Then you might no be as smart as you think, but , thats none of my business....

[dmckean]

There's really only two reasons to ever update:

1. The new version of MAME or it's derivatives has added new features that will make your cabinet better than it was before.
2. The new version of MAME has improved emulation of a game you play or added support for a new game you want to play.

In the first scenario, you need to update all your ROMs. In the second scenario, it's much easier to set up a second instance of MAME to run only the ROMs that have changed.

[yotsuya]

I have an install of Hyperspin on my main home computer that I use for tinkering. Want to add new games new ROM sets new emulators? I do it there and get all the bugs out before I put it on anything cabs. Easy as pie

I also have the same setup for AtomicFE.

[vwalbridge]

I have an install of Hyperspin on my main home computer that I use for tinkering. Want to add new games new ROM sets new emulators? I do it there and get all the bugs out before I put it on anything cabs. Easy as pie

I also have the same setup for AtomicFE.

yotsuya is my hyperspin homeboy. Us hyperspin guys think alike.    Always have a test computer to work out bugs.

I've never used anything but hyperspin since I started building and I've never looked back. Gotta say I'm pretty baffled when people can't get it working. I've easily spent just as much time configuring the software on my cabs as I have building them. Amazing how people sink hundreds of hours into constructing a cab but expect the front end to work in 5 minutes.

I've said this before but the initial setup of hyperspin is some work. But you can just copy that setup to any cab later with minimal work. New Mame version comes out? No problem use your test machine. New Rom version? No problem, use your test machine.

Anything with doing is worth doing well I always say. So it worth it to me to understand how Hyperspin works.

[yotsuya]

I have an install of Hyperspin on my main home computer that I use for tinkering. Want to add new games new ROM sets new emulators? I do it there and get all the bugs out before I put it on anything cabs. Easy as pie

I also have the same setup for AtomicFE.

yotsuya is my hyperspin homeboy. Us hyperspin guys think alike.    Always have a test computer to work out bugs.

I've never used anything but hyperspin since I started building and I've never looked back. Gotta say I'm pretty baffled when people can't get it working. I've easily spent just as much time configuring the software on my cabs as I have building them. Amazing how people sink hundreds of hours into constructing a cab but expect the front end to work in 5 minutes.

I've said this before but the initial setup of hyperspin is some work. But you can just copy that setup to any cab later with minimal work. New Mame version comes out? No problem use your test machine. New Rom version? No problem, use your test machine.

Anything with doing is worth doing well I always say. So it worth it to me to understand how Hyperspin works.

[keilmillerjr]

Hey all. So forever ago I aquired a nice clean full .149 romset and all the additional files to go with it, so i always liked it. Anyways, now that im getting more into building machines, I was considering upgrading my rom set and mame version. Ive been reading about the new mame/mess merger and that it could potentially add a lot of problems to people already having smooth systems running. My friend had recently asked about golden tee fore and such, so i figured id look into it. I currently run Gameex but considering hyperspin on my next build. Being on .149 now, what, if any version do you suggest i upgrade to? Ive had little success with clrmamepro so I know updating my sets is going to suck. I dont know much technical stuff behind mame releases.. so, advice on what i should do as far as future mame version and rom set to use?

It could potentially add problems? So your worried about a hypothetical issue? For real?

[darryldale]

Hey all. So forever ago I aquired a nice clean full .149 romset and all the additional files to go with it, so i always liked it. Anyways, now that im getting more into building machines, I was considering upgrading my rom set and mame version. Ive been reading about the new mame/mess merger and that it could potentially add a lot of problems to people already having smooth systems running. My friend had recently asked about golden tee fore and such, so i figured id look into it. I currently run Gameex but considering hyperspin on my next build. Being on .149 now, what, if any version do you suggest i upgrade to? Ive had little success with clrmamepro so I know updating my sets is going to suck. I dont know much technical stuff behind mame releases.. so, advice on what i should do as far as future mame version and rom set to use?

It could potentially add problems? So your worried about a hypothetical issue? For real?

Absolutely NOTHING wrong with subscribing to the "if it ain't broke don't fix it mentality".

Have been burned way too many times upgrading when the upgrade wasn't really necessary.

If the rom set you have now plays all the games you like then don't bother.

[aldub516]

to address the expected ruder side of comments... First, when I said i consider myself smart, i say that being in 20 years of using computers ive never had something i couldnt get to work right, or i can usually atleast find a solution with enough research. Just like i learned how to build arcades, I try and educate myself and problem solve. Ive come a long way from not using tools, to building my 3 cabinets/pedestal. Hyperspin just alludes me.. Guess im a retard what can i say right? You win.. Also, as far as spending hours on building a cab, and expecting a front end in minutes, ive put endless hours into my software between builds. Especially with gameex/pinball x, steam and other systems working together, customizing themes from backrounds to loading bars to match cabinet themes, and anything else i need to have my pc boot and work perfect.. Just saying, trust me, i didnt have any expectation of a five minute set up, im not ignorant in that department. I simply cant find one single straight forward way to get hyperspin properly working, and since then have found great success with gameex. I simply wanted to toy with the idea of hyperspin again... I do have it working so to speak, but im sure it will take a lot of time to perfect... As for "worrying about hypothetical situations for real".. Um, yes.. I consider hypothetical problems.. Is the new version of mame going to clash with my existing front end set up and add hours of unnecessary work? Will I find that i need to find new workarounds to get my system back where it was after updating or changing things? Yes, i consider the pros and cons of every thing i do. In life everything has a hypothetical outcome, so naturally we weigh the risks and consequences of things we do.. no? I do appreciate the constructive advice and comments about updating and moving on in my romset. I do understand its not worth it unless theres a block buster change for me, i was just asking what you fine people all settled on, or what you feel is needed to have a most current and proper system.
As someone said, i dont mind the "if it aint broke dont fix it" gig, and ill probably stick there. Thank you for the advice from some, Sorry to ruffle feathers for the others.. I guess its what forums are for

[Yenome]

i just recently updated to 161 from 151. far as hyperspin was concerned it didnt care it kept on chugging along. soon as i had my roms dwindled down to 1400 i exported teh list from romlister to hyperspin named it mame.xml and dropped it in the database folder for mame. hyperspin picked right up where it left off long as it wasnt a game i didnt have before. those need the video file to keep up with the rest.

I exclusively use clrmamepro for updating roms. but i will use romlister to filter the roms save that file as my main xml and load it into clrmamepro as a database to check roms. That way i dont have to deal with the other 22000 or some games i dont care for, dont have the controls for, or dont work.

[aldub516]

Ahh thank you! It seems I have some work to finally conquer hyperspin. I guess it makes sense that I have no need to update

[Yenome]

Ahh thank you! It seems I have some work to finally conquer hyperspin. I guess it makes sense that I have no need to update

Yes like the others have said. unless a game you really want to play or some new feature has your eye no need to update. i updated for the lottes shaders. now i wont update again for a while and can just add more games as they become playable if needed. Hyperspin is simple once you have spent some time playing with it. personally i leave it at default and only add the video files and set it to only use the mame wheel.