Rotated monitor now acts irratic. Please help!

[arcadepcnut]

I hope someone here can help me or point me to the right track. This project has been one problem after another. I had a horizontal monitor that I rotated to be vertical. I am using a real arcade 19" monitor and arcmon.sys driver. At dos prompt vertical hold wont stabilize. Screen scrolls and eventually can be stabilized but not at center. However, tapping hard on control panel or anywhere on the machine yields static on the screen for a second and will knock the vertical hold off again. The horizontal seems to be about 5-6 dos characters not showing (msdos prompt is up and down when monitor is rotated. So I guess I need to shrink horizontal hold. There is also a control for 50-60hz that I dont know what it does. Is there anything someone needs to know when rotating a monitor from horizontal to vertical. I thought it would be a no brainer. Did I damage something?!

Thanks in advance!!!

[arcadepcnut]

I hope someone here can help me or point me to the right track. This project has been one problem after another. I had a horizontal monitor that I rotated to be vertical. I am using a real arcade 19" monitor and arcmon.sys driver. At dos prompt vertical hold wont stabilize. Screen scrolls and eventually can be stabilized but not at center. However, tapping hard on control panel or anywhere on the machine yields static on the screen for a second and will knock the vertical hold off again. The horizontal seems to be about 5-6 dos characters not showing (msdos prompt is up and down when monitor is rotated. So I guess I need to shrink horizontal hold. There is also a control for 50-60hz that I dont know what it does. Is there anything someone needs to know when rotating a monitor from horizontal to vertical. I thought it would be a no brainer. Did I damage something?!

Thanks in advance!!!

Not trying to bump but do you think replacing the pots/control knobs would be a worthy effort?! Someone mentioned earlier these are very fragile.

[arcadepcnut]

I guess if noone knows I killed it and it wont hurt to go ahead and replace the controls. I feel like im talking to myself :0

[arcadepcnut]

I fixed it glad nobody lost any sleep over it.

[Ken Layton]

I've rotated dozens of monitors from vertical to horizontal in hundreds of games I converted over the years. Never had a problem. I always unplugged and/or unhooked all cables and power cords from the monitor first so that there would be no chance of the cables snagging on any components on the monitor and breaking them off. I always had a helper on hand to watch the back end of the monitor as it was put back into the cabinet so that the neck doesn't get broken.

Once the monitor is back in the cabinet and securely bolted in place I eyeball it closely for any possibly broken trimpots on the neckboard or main board. If everything looks ok then I reconnect all the cables and power up the monitor. Naturally the size and position controls need to be readjusted for the new game.

Did you accidently break off one of the leads on a trimpot on your monitor?

[arcadepcnut]

Had a helper with the wires. Didnt break anything that I was aware of. Replaced all control pots with some off another monitor (pc monitor). Monitor is now fine and stable.  One question. Why did you post when I said I fixed it?! No sense in it really. All you told me was how you do it. Insinuating I did it wrong. Thats not really helpful ....

[Ken Layton]

I had just read this thread today. I saw that nobody had responded so I thought I'd jump in and mention how I do monitor rotation.

[menace]

Arcadepcnut: just so you know, the monitor/video forum usually has the toughest questions, so alot of people don't feel comfortable answering--sometimes you have to wait for an expert to happen along (i.e. ken Layton) and it could take some time.  I realize its frustrating, but dissing an expert when they do happen by may not be the wisest course of action in case of future technical problems.

If its a tough question I usually post to the rec.games.video.arcade.marketplace (RGVAM) or RGVAC or even alt.games.mame--good luck!

[arcadepcnut]

Thanks for the replies. But I just will prob stay away from this forum. I wasted 4 days waiting when I was able to troubleshoot it myself. I second guessed myself looking for answers. Next time I'll just go with my gut.

[APFelon]

It sounds like you wasted those four days yourself. No one here wasted them for you.

[arcadepcnut]

It sounds like you wasted those four days yourself. No one here wasted them for you.

I was waiting for help. So yeah I did waste them myself. A mistake I WONT make in the future.
Thanks for your help.

[APFelon]

I wasn't trying to be helpful, necessarily. I was trying to point out that you are being rude.

No one here owes you help or anything else, and it is impolite to demand it. If you want instant gratification, call the monitor manufacturer and ask for tech support. That would have taken you less than an hour and we would have been spared your petty insults and horrible attitude. You would have had those four days to go out and pet kittens or smell flowers or something to help you lighten up a little.

APf

[arcadepcnut]

I wasn't trying to be helpful, necessarily. I was trying to point out that you are being rude.

No one here owes you help or anything else, and it is impolite to demand it. If you want instant gratification, call the monitor manufacturer and ask for tech support. That would have taken you less than an hour and we would have been spared your petty insults and horrible attitude. You would have had those four days to go out and pet kittens or smell flowers or something to help you lighten up a little.

APf

Hey bud it looks like you are the one that needs to lighten up. I asked for help. I didnt demand it. I didnt get any. Fixed it myself. End of story.
Im a member of other boards where instead of viewing posts people reply with helpfully suggestions and or comments not posts that help none whatsoever (yours). I obviously expected too much from these forums and I admitted that. Looking I see this forum is more for "which monitor is better a computer or arcade?" and post such as these. My question was obviously two technical and I should have looked elsewhere I agree and I said that.
So save your breathe and quit wasting my time. You didnt help now then or ever and offered no suggestions for help. So I conclude you dont know how to fix problems and like to stir up trouble and like to see yourself in print.
I know you were not trying to be helpful. It was sarcasm. Learn about it cause with helpful posts like yours you need to expect it. Hopefully end of discussion.
Many this hobby sure has changed in the last 5 years!

[APFelon]

When someone DID offer help, you jumped on his back. I don't think it would be worth my while to help to anyone who feels the need to lash out at those who would offer assistance, albiet late.

I told you, and am telling you, that it is/was uncalled for and you are being rude. If I can't help you with your monitor problem, perhaps I can assist in your etiquette problem. It sure needs a lot more help than any monitor possibly could.

So I will save my "breathe" and try my best not to like to see myself in print, whatever that means.

My part in this conversation is over. Ta ta.


APf