Emulators (Arcade) beside Mame?

[Paradise]

Hi,

is there somewhere a list of systems/games that run better on other emulators or can't be played in Mame?
2 years ago i found a side that had some comparison with emulators but i can't find it anymore.
If i remember there was one emulator that was just one game...

AAE, Daphne, Daphne-Singe, DICE...

But AAE i saw people talking is not needed anymore since newer versions of Mame.
But it seems like it has to do with HLSL - so i guess it's in combination with LCDs.

So what emulators to you use for what system/game on CRTs?

[BadMouth]

I listed everything on my system (arcade only) in a reply to the same question here in this same subforum.
Use the search function.

[Paradise]

I always use the search function - but it's hard if you don't know what to search for (phrase).

I'm also making a Excel table to figure out what emulators to use on which PC/Monitor.
I have:
2 DOS machines
1 Win95/98 dual boot machine
1 Win98 machine
1 XP gaming machine
1 XP GroovyMame machine
1 Win8 machine

I also have a Sony FW900, 4 Grundig analog CRT TVs.

The GroovyMame machine is 15kHz and connected to a Grundig.
I guess handheld emulators are fine on LCD monitors cause handhelds have LCDs.
But what about Commodore, Amstrad, Atari, Nintendo emulators - 15kHz TV or Sony FW900?

Not easy if you want it authentic with the best picture possible...

[lamprey]

Hi,

is there somewhere a list of systems/games that run better on other emulators or can't be played in Mame?
2 years ago i found a side that had some comparison with emulators but i can't find it anymore.
If i remember there was one emulator that was just one game...

AAE, Daphne, Daphne-Singe, DICE...

But AAE i saw people talking is not needed anymore since newer versions of Mame.
But it seems like it has to do with HLSL - so i guess it's in combination with LCDs.

So what emulators to you use for what system/game on CRTs?

There are a bunch of comparisons out there, so I'm not sure which one you are referring to.

I still think AAE is the best for asteroids and asteroids deluxe emulation, even if it isn't 100% correct. It's just unfortunate that I can't seem to get the artwork system to work for my purposes. I think there are other issues too like it doesn't support joysticks or something..? Mame with HLSL is pretty sweet for vector games, even asteroids. But, with MAME it is very hard to see the shots where as AAE exaggerates the shots to make them more visible. But, default it seems a little too much, but tweaking the settings can dial it in pretty nicely. Additionally, AAE seem to get the colors "more-righter," in that the ships are slightly brighter than the asteroids, etc..

Cheers!

[PL1]

I still think AAE is the best for asteroids and asteroids deluxe emulation, even if it isn't 100% correct. It's just unfortunate that I can't seem to get the artwork system to work for my purposes. I think there are other issues too like it doesn't support joysticks or something..?

AAE doesn't support HID joysticks/buttons -- the author was working on that when he gave up on the project.

Worse yet, there are no analog control inputs.   

The trackball/spinner inputs aren't great but they work OK.

The keyboard inputs work well.

Maybe if we're lucky Howard Casto will come back and add analog controls for much SW goodness.   


Scott

[Paradise]

There are a bunch of comparisons out there, so I'm not sure which one you are referring to.

The background was light brown or beige if i remember right and it was not a fancy side. Just plain text and for every emu there was description why it is better then the others.

[lamprey]

There are a bunch of comparisons out there, so I'm not sure which one you are referring to.

The background was light brown or beige if i remember right and it was not a fancy side. Just plain text and for every emu there was description why it is better then the others.

Humm, this probably isn't he one you are looking for, but it does seem to list emulators for just about every type of system (left-hand menu under Popular Systems):
http://www.zophar.net/mame.html

[Paradise]

After 1 hour Google: http://nonmame.retrogames.com/
And the single one game i had in my head from that side was "Out Run"

[bulbousbeard]

DEMUL, SuperModel, Daphne, and M2. Those are basically the only arcade emulators that do some things better than MAME. So if you don't like 3D Sega arcade games or LaserDisc games, you probably don't care about anything besides MAME.

[bulbousbeard]

After 1 hour Google: http://nonmame.retrogames.com/
And the single one game i had in my head from that side was "Out Run"

That site is laughably out of date now. For example, Radikal Bikers in MAME is probably better than the standalone emulator was. The standalone emulator was just fast.

And this: "WinArcadia currently supports these games better than MAME, primarily due to its ability to render the color palette more accurately."

Huh? There are no reported bugs on MAMETesters for the Laser Battle hardware. I'm always really suspicious of people who talk about "better colors" by just randomly looking at things on different monitors. To do this day, there are idiots who say that the Saturn Rayman has "better colors" than the other ports, and yet if you look at all of them in an emulator, the colors aren't even different. This is all because one dude made something up and posted it on a newsgroup in 1997, and the misinformation just spread like wildfire. I'm calling ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---. It wouldn't surprise me if MAME was more accurate than WinArcadia.

[Paradise]

That site is laughably out of date now.

I had no time to read it yet. But it was a side i did remember.
Out of date? Since a half year > 07/25/14

What are the opinions on non-arcade emulators and monitors?
Not that i really need them cause i have allot of the real consoles and C64 and A500, but i'm curious.
Are non-arcade emulators (consoles/computer) ok on a CRT monitor (FW900)?

[nitrogen_widget]

That site is laughably out of date now.

I had no time to read it yet. But it was a side i did remember.
Out of date? Since a half year > 07/25/14

What are the opinions on non-arcade emulators and monitors?
Not that i really need them cause i have allot of the real consoles and C64 and A500, but i'm curious.
Are non-arcade emulators (consoles/computer) ok on a CRT monitor (FW900)?

I've run the following emulators on pretty much every display type you can imagine.
LCD TV via HDMI, CRT TV via component, svidio, composite, crt projection TV over the same as the CRT TV plus dvi.
LCD TV via svideo and VGA monitors.

I have had no issues I can think of other than NES and older systems really don't look great on a 50" Plasma TV regardless of what type of scaling the emulator offers & incorporating scanline shaders does make a visual difference.

I personally prefer an old CRT vga monitor with the curved screen and the res turned down to 640x480 or lower if possible for old school emulation.

I also have a 32" CRT TV with component in that looks amazing when that input is used but it's way easier to use Svideo & it looks almost as good to me.