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Help with controller problem in Pacman, Ms Pacman,...
« on: September 08, 2014, 03:16:58 am »
Hello,
It's been a while since I've posted here.  Doing some PC/software upgrades to my cab I built in early 2000's.

Running Windows 7 32-bit ultimate, with NEW: Gigabyte intel 1050 socket H81 chipset, 3GHz dual core intel cpu(lower end poss i3), 2Gb DDR3 RAM, Geforce BFG 260GTX video card, onboard sound.
Running MAME version .114
'Monitor' is a 25" RCA CRT TV using S-video input.
Have the Happ Super joysticks (x2) as well as one 4-way Happ that I got a good few years back (When Happ was just Happ controls not Suzo-Happ).
Happ 3" Trackball (with upgraded redboard PCBs) & an Oscar spinner going to an Opti-Pac (USB).  Keyboard controller is a Hagstrom LP24 (PS2).
 
Did a few searches but most come up being about 4 way joysticks, the better ones to get etc...

Here's what's happening:
When I move around the maze (happens in Pacman & Ms Pacman & variants) the character seems to jump a few pixels as if not lining up with the maze pathways and a few times getting stuck to or closer to one side of the maze wall.

I've tried a PS2 to USB adapter for the LPT24 encoder but movement/lag is worse with USB. 
Tried a Logitech and Microsoft gamepad (both USB) but problem still shows up.
It almost seems(but not sure) like a resolution problem or a resolution that my TV is set to is changing the maze somehow?

Wondering if anyone else encountered this problem or if anyone would be so kind to offer suggestions/ info on anything I could try.


Here are a few pics of the CP and 4-Way:








http://s239.photobucket.com/user/thomas3120/slideshow/My%20MAME%20Arcade%20Cabinet

Thomas

 
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Re: Help with controller problem in Pacman, Ms Pacman,...
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014, 04:25:16 am »
Just thought I'd post the error log (deleted contents & started Ms Pacman and played a bit).
Not sure if it will help...

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Namco: freq fractional bits = 16: internal freq = 192000, output freq = 192000
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Re: Help with controller problem in Pacman, Ms Pacman,...
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 05:50:48 am »
Software written for a 4 way joystick (like pac-man) don't expect 2 directions to be hit at once (like your 8-way stick does). This could result in glitches like you describe. Try a keyboard to control pac-man and hit use one arrow key at the time (simulating a 4-way stick). This way you can easily see if your problem is caused by the stick.
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Re: Help with controller problem in Pacman, Ms Pacman,...
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 06:48:07 am »
Quote from: EMDB on September 08, 2014, 05:50:48 am
Software written for a 4 way joystick (like pac-man) don't expect 2 directions to be hit at once (like your 8-way stick does). This could result in glitches like you describe. Try a keyboard to control pac-man and hit use one arrow key at the time (simulating a 4-way stick). This way you can easily see if your problem is caused by the stick.

Thanks for the reply,
Yes, but I also have and tried my Happ 4-Way joystick (also on my CP) and getting the same problem.

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Re: Help with controller problem in Pacman, Ms Pacman,...
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2014, 08:37:49 pm »
How old is that keyboard encoder? You might want to try upgrading that.
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Re: Help with controller problem in Pacman, Ms Pacman,...
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2014, 10:15:12 pm »
Quote from: yotsuya on September 08, 2014, 08:37:49 pm
How old is that keyboard encoder? You might want to try upgrading that.

It's probably as old as the Arcade, so thinking got the keyboard encoder (Hagstrom LP24) around 2002.

I did try a Logitech rumble pad usb and a Microsoft gamepad usb and had the same problem (bypassing the encoder and using gamepad settings in MAME control menu.  Wouldn't this rule out the encoder?

I may wipe out MAME and reinstall mame32 114 from scratch.  The only thing I want to save are the high scores.  Would these be in NVRam folder? and the Hi-Score.Dat file? ... any other folder I should back up?

Thanks again,

Thomas
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