Main Restorations Software Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Everything Else Buy/Sell/Trade
Project Announcements Monitor/Video GroovyMAME Merit/JVL Touchscreen Meet Up Retail Vendors
Driving & Racing Woodworking Software Support Forums Consoles Project Arcade Reviews
Automated Projects Artwork Frontend Support Forums Pinball Forum Discussion Old Boards
Raspberry Pi & Dev Board controls.dat Linux Miscellaneous Arcade Wiki Discussion Old Archives
Lightguns Arcade1Up Try the site in https mode Site News

Unread posts | New Replies | Recent posts | Rules | Chatroom | Wiki | File Repository | RSS | Submit news

  

Author Topic: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun  (Read 3333 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Sarver Systems

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 937
  • Last login:October 07, 2020, 12:46:05 am
I'm building a super gun to test jamma boards, power supplies, and monitors.

I've got everything figured out (and will be posting pics soon), except for how to setup the video side of it.

I know I want to be able to test everything from old raster monitors all the way up to LCDs.

Can someone point me in the right direction for some kind of card that can output all of those?

Generic Eric

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4520
  • Last login:July 15, 2024, 09:18:25 pm
  • Restore! Don't maim for MAME, build from scratch!
    • forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,143226.0.html
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2014, 12:10:17 pm »
Isn't this the answer

GBS 8200 Video Converter CGA EGA YUV RGB TO VGA Arcade Jamma Game Monitor to LCD


http://www.ebay.com/itm/GBS-8200-Video-Converter-CGA-EGA-YUV-RGB-TO-VGA-Arcade-Jamma-Game-Monitor-to-LCD-/270993348519?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f187657a7

Connect a craftymech converter and to your LCD!

Sarver Systems

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 937
  • Last login:October 07, 2020, 12:46:05 am
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2014, 12:33:15 pm »
I'm at work right now, can't view ebay.

This will connect to the video-out of the jamma, and allow me to connect ANY monitor to it?

By ANY, I mean MOST. I know there's always going to be exceptions.

Malenko

  • KNEEL BEFORE ZODlenko!
  • Trade Count: (+58)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14019
  • Last login:July 25, 2025, 05:49:10 pm
  • Have you played with my GingerBalls?
    • forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,142404.msg1475162.html
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2014, 12:40:43 pm »
most people use superguns to run boards, do you want one to test arcade monitors?

if thats your purpose all you need is a jamma loom , power supply, and isolation transformer.
If you're replying to a troll you are part of the problem.
I also need to follow this advice. Ignore or report, don't reply.

Sarver Systems

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 937
  • Last login:October 07, 2020, 12:46:05 am
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2014, 12:49:55 pm »
Well, this is sort of a hybrid supergun. I should call it a superdupergun.

Its going to test monitors, boards, and power supplies.

I'll have a full array of keys to test PacMan, Galaga, Mappy, Defender, DK, etc... as well.

Sarver Systems

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 937
  • Last login:October 07, 2020, 12:46:05 am
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2014, 12:52:37 pm »
I was able to pull that link up on my phone.

Does anyone know if it'll display on more than 1 monitor at a time?

THe reason I am asking is that the supergun will have an LCD built in, that I'd like to leave hardwired in. I don't want to have to unplug it every time I test a monitor.

Malenko

  • KNEEL BEFORE ZODlenko!
  • Trade Count: (+58)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14019
  • Last login:July 25, 2025, 05:49:10 pm
  • Have you played with my GingerBalls?
    • forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,142404.msg1475162.html
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2014, 01:01:33 pm »
all you need to test a power supply is a voltmeter/multimeter.  The board linked only has 1 VGA out , but if you plug the video feed into the video converter instead of the super gun, you should be ok?
If you're replying to a troll you are part of the problem.
I also need to follow this advice. Ignore or report, don't reply.

Sarver Systems

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 937
  • Last login:October 07, 2020, 12:46:05 am
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2014, 01:33:27 pm »
Forgot to mention, my LCD is from a portable VCR recorder thing. It uses composite (the yellow jack).

My supergun has built-in multimeters for the 3 voltages. I'll have 4 test jacks to plug in the testing units.

+12V, +5V, -5V, and GND.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2014, 01:44:08 pm by Sarver Systems »

Sarver Systems

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 937
  • Last login:October 07, 2020, 12:46:05 am
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2014, 06:08:45 pm »
I had a chance to read through the manual, and this board isn't going to do what I need. It only has a single output on it, for a single style monitor.

I need 1 input, multiple outputs. 1 output for each style of monitor.

Malenko

  • KNEEL BEFORE ZODlenko!
  • Trade Count: (+58)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14019
  • Last login:July 25, 2025, 05:49:10 pm
  • Have you played with my GingerBalls?
    • forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,142404.msg1475162.html
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2014, 06:15:03 pm »
1 output for each style of monitor.

That's where you are losing me.  What style(s) of monitor are you talking about?
If you're replying to a troll you are part of the problem.
I also need to follow this advice. Ignore or report, don't reply.

Sarver Systems

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 937
  • Last login:October 07, 2020, 12:46:05 am
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2014, 07:32:06 pm »
I want to be able to test everything from raster monitors up to LCDs.

Input methods:
Jamma (obviously)
Defender
PacMan
Galaga
etc...

Outputs:
Raster
CRT (various size tubes with various inputs)
LCD (no need for DVI)

Malenko

  • KNEEL BEFORE ZODlenko!
  • Trade Count: (+58)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14019
  • Last login:July 25, 2025, 05:49:10 pm
  • Have you played with my GingerBalls?
    • forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,142404.msg1475162.html
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2014, 07:38:12 pm »
even  non JAMMA wired games still output video to red green blue ground and sync
If you're replying to a troll you are part of the problem.
I also need to follow this advice. Ignore or report, don't reply.

CraftyMech

  • Trade Count: (+9)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 492
  • Last login:July 29, 2023, 08:08:45 pm
  • I love the smell of solder in the morning...
    • craftymech.com
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2014, 03:15:29 pm »
I want to be able to test everything from raster monitors up to LCDs.

Input methods:
Jamma (obviously)
Defender
PacMan
Galaga
etc...

Outputs:
Raster
CRT (various size tubes with various inputs)
LCD (no need for DVI)

The output from the video converter mentioned above is VGA, which uses the same connector for both CRT & LCD monitors. It sounds like you need the version of the Gonbes board with two VGA outputs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/250899701935?lpid=82

Question though, why are you wanting to test VGA monitors?

Also by "old raster" I assume you mean arcade monitors. In that case you don't need a converter board, the video off the game pcb (Jamma or otherwise) is fed directly into the monitor chassis.
BitKit 8bit FPGA Multi - http://craftymech.com

Sarver Systems

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 937
  • Last login:October 07, 2020, 12:46:05 am
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2014, 03:20:24 pm »
OK, I'm taking all of this in.

I wanted to test LCD monitors, because I do have a handful of megatouches that are LCD.
And I have some asteroids cabs that are raster monitors.

Knowing that the raster monitors run directly from the jamma connector is a big help. thank you.

Malenko

  • KNEEL BEFORE ZODlenko!
  • Trade Count: (+58)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14019
  • Last login:July 25, 2025, 05:49:10 pm
  • Have you played with my GingerBalls?
    • forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,142404.msg1475162.html
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2014, 03:38:23 pm »
And I have some asteroids cabs that are raster monitors.

Asteroids used VECTOR monitors
If you're replying to a troll you are part of the problem.
I also need to follow this advice. Ignore or report, don't reply.

CraftyMech

  • Trade Count: (+9)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 492
  • Last login:July 29, 2023, 08:08:45 pm
  • I love the smell of solder in the morning...
    • craftymech.com
Re: Still a little confused about setting up video for a supergun
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2014, 03:47:57 pm »
OK, I'm taking all of this in.

I wanted to test LCD monitors, because I do have a handful of megatouches that are LCD.
And I have some asteroids cabs that are raster monitors.

Knowing that the raster monitors run directly from the jamma connector is a big help. thank you.

Asteroids originally used a vector monitor, instead of a raster display (vector is a totally different beast from raster).

Only Standard Res arcade monitors will work with the video signal (15khz) straight from the Jamma connector. VGA CRTs are also "raster" monitors, but will only accept VGA signals (31Khz).
BitKit 8bit FPGA Multi - http://craftymech.com